cytg111
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OAN then? Please. Do share your news consumption repertoire.I watch maybe one hour of Fox news per month. Try again champ
OAN then? Please. Do share your news consumption repertoire.I watch maybe one hour of Fox news per month. Try again champ
OAN then? Please. Do share your news consumption repertoire.
The GOP opposition to single payer health care for all is simply based on the fact all the ultra rich executives with insurance companies will lose their gravy train.When's the last time the GOP gave a flip about healthcare that didn't help executives?
That's half of it.The GOP opposition to single payer health care for all is simply based on the fact all the ultra rich executives with insurance companies will lose their gravy train.
That's half of it.
The other half is when it turns out that Socialized! Medicine! isn't the boogieman...what else that Republicans hysterically scream about is bullshit?
Trump is literally party to a lawsuit, today, that if he wins would remove protections for pre-existing conditions.Yeah thats a straight up lie. But then, lies are all over the place as this is a major election year. Not even Trump would remove this despite what he may say. Healthcare in the US is a continuing moving target, but I doubt any new legislation would include removing the pre-existing clause.
I’m giving Trumps comment a thumbs down.![]()
They don't have to. Some European countries with tax payer funded healthcare offer that as standard, but also give the choice to stop that and get on private insurance. There are so many ways to still benefit insurance executives. The idea of them losing maybe 40% in profits over time is enough to get them to not support a hybrid method.The GOP opposition to single payer health care for all is simply based on the fact all the ultra rich executives with insurance companies will lose their gravy train.
Still #bothsides - ing it to defend Trump? Ok, I'll play what are the lies Biden has told in the last 7 days?Yeah thats a straight up lie. But then, lies are all over the place as this is a major election year. Not even Trump would remove this despite what he may say. Healthcare in the US is a continuing moving target, but I doubt any new legislation would include removing the pre-existing clause.
All while their babbles like a 3 year-old and can't pronounce common words.I think Trump is frustrated at Biden because unlike Hillary he is difficult to attack. People disliked Hillary, period. The same can't be said for Biden. Yes, he has been called sleepy Joe, or has been said to have dementia. He's too old. Etc. But, those statements about Joe haven't swayed public opinion IMO.
You are an exponent of a particular form of mentality that is quite widespread among conservative thinkers. People in this thread have pointed that out to you under the rubric, 'Bothsidesism'. Whether this is an echo chamber effect or just the typical way rationalizations work it is certainly typical of conservative thinking. For that reason it is highly likely in my opinion, that having a peculiar but common mental bent yourself, you project that personal form of mental conditioning onto other people who are in fact free of it. There isn't a sane person in the world who would say both sides lie when confronted by a person like Donald Trump whose whole life is nothing but a total fabrication, an alternative reality, a massive fabrication of lies. This is so profoundly evident that it really makes your both sides approach look like a total joke and will earn you nothing but distain.If you get the fuck out of your echo chamber.
OAN then? Please. Do share your news consumption repertoire.
Still #bothsides - ing it to defend Trump? Ok, I'll play what are the lies Biden has told in the last 7 days?
Why do you limit oit to 7 days? Heres some recent doozies:
Over the past year, Biden thundered that the Obama administration “didn’t lock people up in cages.” He also claimed that, “Immediately, the moment [the Iraq War] started, I came out against it.” And… “I was always labeled one of the most liberal members of Congress.” Politico’s rating of all three assertions? False.
And how does saying politicians on both sides lie defend Trump, when I straight out said what Trump said is a lie? Is your reading comprehension that bad?
Because both sides are not remotely equivalent. Had you said 'both sides lie but Trump lies way more' I doubt anyone would have had an issue with it.
Also, you do realize that what you said earlier about Trump not ending pre-existing conditions is false, right? He's currently litigating before SCOTUS to do EXACTLY that.
Yeah thats what I thought. Youre saying that does not mean I was wrong. Biden has his share of lies as well. The bottom sides IS #bothsides lie. They do. Its the old yeah my guy does that your but your guy does it worse! Its like kindergarten.
California v. TexasIm not aware of that legislation Trump is litigating before SCOTUS.
The United States Department of Justice told the district court in June 2018 that it mostly agreed with the general basis of the lawsuit, in that without the individual mandate, certain provisions of the ACA were invalided such as the protections it had provided for those with existing conditions, and would not defend those factors in court. However, the Justice Department still believed certain provisions of the ACA were valid.
It's not like kindergarten, it's real life. Functionally every person on Earth who can speak has told a lie at some point, so pointing out that everyone lies is a pointless thing. One side is vastly more honest than the other and you are attempting to obscure that.
People like you are playing right into Trump's hands you realize, right? So long as you just say '#bothsides' he can be by far the most relentlessly and purposefully dishonest person in the history of US politics and pay no price. If anything you're encouraging him to lie even more.
Just for the record, you do agree that Trump lies to a VASTLY greater degree than Biden or any other US politician of any party, correct? Just need to make sure we are both at least marginally tethered to reality.
California v. Texas
California v. Texas - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Since Im not vopting for either Bidem or Trump, Im not doing anything.
Yep
This lawsuit has nothing to do with Trump. Sure, Barr endorsed it, but thats about it. If you want to tie it to Trump, then we'll call it yet another failed lawsuit byTrump. SCOTUS wont rule in favor.
This is false. Here's the timeline:
1) Texas sues the federal government to invalidate the ACA, including the pre-existing condition exemption.
2) Trump's DOJ refuses to defend the law, the pre-existing condition exemption in particular, arguing it is unconstitutional.
3) After the law is not defended, the district judge rules the law unconstitutional.
4) California and other states intervene because Trump's DOJ is no longer defending it, the pre-existing condition exemption in particular.
It would be truly remarkable if you are going to argue that despite a lawsuit where Trump explicitly refused to defend against an attempt to destroy pre-existing condition protections and then argued they were unconstitutional...that he's not trying to get rid of them. He 100% is!
I would say its not pre-existing conditions he might want to end, but the personal mandate, which I agree with. Unfortunately the way its written you can do away with one without the other.. It needs to be re-written.
Either way, SCOTUS wont rule in his favor. So meh.
