Trump admin neglected to order more Pfizer vaccine

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WelshBloke

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What if the manufacturer cuts back on its original promise?
You don't order from just one supplier in a situation like this, you try to secure as many doses as possible from everyone.
Chances are that you aren't going to get all the doses you order but if you do get an excess there will definitely be a market for them, they won't be wasted!
 

zzyzxroad

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Wonder if trump will distribute the first shipments of the Pfizer vaccine to states based on GDP contribution. It's all about the economy right?
 
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cytg111

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Trump is just screwing up his own unique way.

But I am not convinced the other side would not "cull the herd" to relieve the money burden on the government.

Dollars count, and every fewer head that has to have their social security paid is a win.

Just switching from checks to direct deposit reduced my mom' benefit by $1. She's supposed to have $895 a month and only gets $894 after the switch.
Why? Why the 1$? Direct-deposit fee?
 
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MtnMan

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I see you have issued an imperative to me. I see nothing further to respond to using rationality.
Some times people say such stupid stuff, that STFU is the most proper response. At least it saves time, because the intended recipient won't actually listen to a rational response.
 
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MtnMan

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Trump is just screwing up his own unique way.

But I am not convinced the other side would not "cull the herd" to relieve the money burden on the government.

Dollars count, and every fewer head that has to have their social security paid is a win.

Just switching from checks to direct deposit reduced my mom' benefit by $1. She's supposed to have $895 a month and only gets $894 after the switch.
You need to get your mom a different bank. That is a fucking rip off, because it is drastically cheaper for her bank to process an electronic transaction that one with a paper check. Better yet, see if she qualifies to for a Credit Union membership, and not a fucking greedy FOR PROFIT bank. Some only require that you are a resident of the county.
 

Pohemi

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Some times people say such stupid stuff, that STFU is the most proper response. At least it saves time, because the intended recipient won't actually listen to a rational response.
Yeah, it's now an auto-response to the few clowns here that can't ever be honest or accurately represent facts.
 
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clemsyn

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I also told my kids to encourage their friends to participate :) but some of his friends have either tested positive or their parents are hesitant. I am also part of the vaccine trial but I am pretty sure I got the placebo because I remember how a saline shot feels like from nursing school. I was told they will unblind us when a vaccine becomes available.

Update: I was right. Pfizer called me and unblinded me, it was a placebo that I got and they gave me the first dose of vaccine yesterday because I am a health care worker. My arm still hurts a bit but so far no other reaction.
 

hal2kilo

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zinfamous

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Looks like some kind of monkey business is going on with the distribution of the Pfizer vaccine. Pfizer says they don't know why the Fed's not ordering all of their supply, it's not their problem. And of course, the administration basically says it's Pfizer problem. So shocked I tell you. Saw this first on TRMS, this is the only link I found so far.

Some states say their Pfizer vaccine allotments were cut for next week: ‘This is disruptive and frustrating’ - The Morning Call (mcall.com)

gee, I wonder which states will have problems?
 

NWRMidnight

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gee, I wonder which states will have problems?
at first I was going to think it was going to be blue states, but it's both. Washington has their next weeks order cut by 40% (blue), Idaho has theirs cut by 44% (Red) . And Pfizer has millions of doses sitting in their warehouse with no instructions on where to send them, or so they say. This is another Trump administration screwup, a purposely executed plan to hold the American citizens hostage, or as corrupt Trump is, an attempt to blackmail Congress into not accepting the Electoral Votes in January.
 

K1052

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Have to believe the admin is fucking around because Pfizer didn't play ball with Trump politically plus is probably not competent enough to direct distribution at the scale we're going to need. They overpromise every time and reliably fail to meet goals while condescending to the public they serve about how grateful we all should be.

 

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Admin is fucking around with my state (Oregon). Shipped 40% less than promised. Admin blamed it on Pfizer. Pfizer said, uhh no, it's literally sitting in our warehouse waiting for feds to pick it up.

But hey, go ahead be petty to keep in character.
 

NWRMidnight

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Admin is fucking around with my state (Oregon). Shipped 40% less than promised. Admin blamed it on Pfizer. Pfizer said, uhh no, it's literally sitting in our warehouse waiting for feds to pick it up.

But hey, go ahead be petty to keep in character.
Hmmm, Idaho, Washington, Oregon, and what other states? So far, I see only states that did not join the Texas election lawsuit.. are there any states that joined it getting their orders cut? Is it only the west coast?

Edit:. It's not just the west coast. But the list is questionable.

Missouri's health director, Dr. Randall Williams, said his state will get 25% to 30% less of the vaccine next week than anticipated. A statement from the Iowa Department of Public Health said its allocation will be "reduced by as much as 30%, however we are working to gain confirmation and additional details from our federal partners."

Michigan's shipment will drop by about a quarter. Connecticut, Georgia, Illinois, Montana, Kansas, Nebraska, New Hampshire and Indiana also have been told to expect smaller shipments.

 
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K1052

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Admin is fucking around with my state (Oregon). Shipped 40% less than promised. Admin blamed it on Pfizer. Pfizer said, uhh no, it's literally sitting in our warehouse waiting for feds to pick it up.

But hey, go ahead be petty to keep in character.

Incompetence or malice? The eternal debate regarding the Trump administration.
 
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zinfamous

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Admin is fucking around with my state (Oregon). Shipped 40% less than promised. Admin blamed it on Pfizer. Pfizer said, uhh no, it's literally sitting in our warehouse waiting for feds to pick it up.

But hey, go ahead be petty to keep in character.

Trump people are Garbage people. All of them; no exceptions.
 
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Pohemi

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Incompetence or malice?
I would say both, but malice might be one of the few things they are sort of competent at, sadly. :p

It's all about that payback and vengeance. Scorched Earth, bitches.

FWIW, during any past administration, I'd have given the benefit of the doubt and assumed that delays were logistical issues and less-than-stellar handling.

Now? I can't say with certainty that an outcome like this wasn't intended. I obviously don't know or have inside info on it, but it's fucked up that I have to even wonder. This is where our standards and expectations have come to when dealing with the WH.

These assclowns need to go, and be prosecuted once they are out if investigations warrant it.
 
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Bitek

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I've mentioned before what useless tits this admin is. I work in a critical infrastructure co and our dealings with them at the outbreak in March left us depressed and working on our own to secure ppe and the supply chain.

Them fucking this up now is not a surprise. More people will needlessly die due to their stupidity.
 
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MtnMan

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Then there is this shitbird....

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