TRUE dies in testing against Xigmatek Achilles 2

toadeater

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The poor quality of stock TRUEs is exposed yet again. In the end, the stock Achilles v.2 still didn't win against a lapped and pressure-modded TRUE, but a stock TRUE failed to complete the test, while even the S1283 kept going. I wonder how the Achilles would do with a pressure mod?

Also worth noting is how cooler performance changed with higher voltages and overclocks; it shows what a difference extra heatpipes make. At lower temps, extra heatpipes do not help with performance. This might explain why you see S1283s beating TRUEs in some tests but not in others with extreme temps.

It's still clear that HDT is superior to non-HDT, however, they need to find some way of squeezing more heatpipes into the design, and adding more surface pressure.

"As if the heat being put out by the Q6600 wasn?t bad enough already, this is where things really start to go crazy. Pushing the CPU up to a stable 3Ghz @ approximately 1.504Vcore, the backplate of the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme was dangerously hot to the touch so much that I actually burned myself moving the motherboard back to my workbench. The retail sample I acquired from Alex at Petra?s Tech Shop, shot up right past 85c after several minutes of load testing before the system finally shut itself down. This was most unexpected from a TRUE, being the top tier cooler that it is. However the problems with Thermalright?s manufacturing have plagued the retail Ultra 120 Extreme?s for the past year, from uneven bases to poor mounting systems which are loose to the point where the whole heatsink itself can do a partial turn with ease while mounted. Too my surprise however, all three Xigmatek coolers stayed under the thermal threshold during these tests."

http://www.overclockerspulse.c...4-review-or-preview/5/
 

aigomorla

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Originally posted by: Old Hippie
pressure-modded TRUE

Anybody know what a pressure-mod is?

adding a piece of cardbord inbetween the mounting plate and the top of the sink. So you get a more firm mount.

OR, mouting it via waterblock style with springs bolts and nuts.

There trying to work the bow, problem is there bow is complete off and theres too much torque on the sink to maintain a good bow.

Unless you flat mount it.
 

Old Hippie

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Ahhh, the penny/washer mod.

I guess I shoulda figured that out because I've done it on mine. :laugh:
 

Tullphan

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: Old Hippie
pressure-modded TRUE

Anybody know what a pressure-mod is?

adding a piece of cardbord inbetween the mounting plate and the top of the sink. So you get a more firm mount.

OR, mouting it via waterblock style with springs bolts and nuts.

There trying to work the bow, problem is there bow is complete off and theres too much torque on the sink to maintain a good bow.

Unless you flat mount it.

Do you mean positioning the case/motherboard horizontally instead of vertically?
 

aigomorla

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Originally posted by: Tullphan
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: Old Hippie
pressure-modded TRUE

Anybody know what a pressure-mod is?

adding a piece of cardbord inbetween the mounting plate and the top of the sink. So you get a more firm mount.

OR, mouting it via waterblock style with springs bolts and nuts.

There trying to work the bow, problem is there bow is complete off and theres too much torque on the sink to maintain a good bow.

Unless you flat mount it.

Do you mean positioning the case/motherboard horizontally instead of vertically?

yes like so:
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_1123.jpg

You have no issue with torque on a waterblock. There not super high, and there not super heavy.

The best waterblocks will have a super thin base and not a thick one, so that makes them fairly light. Pressure is then easily applied on something like that vs a TRUE, and heaven forbid my IFX.

In fact i feel sorry for anyone who would attempt to mount an IFX vertically.
 

aigomorla

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Originally posted by: Tullphan
So those of us w/tower pc's need to get on the H2O bandwagon? ;)

of course not.

LOL...

i am just showing you guys what it takes for a bow.

So you guys can admit thermalright needs to fix there sinks.