Truck Time

[jaha2000]

Got my choices narrowed down..
Looking at either getting a new Sierra or have found a couple of 2012 tundra's around that have caught my eye
One in particular 2012 crewmax, limited, black, 28k on the clock that is very nice..
Problem is that i can get a new GMC that gets better MPG for right around the same type of money, and from driving at least, is light years better in terms of driving dynamics. Not a shock i suppose, that gen of tundra is the better part of 6 years old.

So..
Thoughts either way? Ford seems to be 15-20% more expensive for the same stuff on the gmc. I am not owning a ram period...

In before the "why do you need a truck?" "Why not just rent one?" "Are you sure you can live with it?" comments start.

 

[Jimzz]

If you are talking about the new 2014 GMC/Chevy trucks then yea I would get one of those over a Tundra any day.

Fords are also good so for me it would come down to price between the Ford and Chevy/GMC.

 

[Greenman]

Before you say you're not owning a Ram, go look at them. The diesel half ton is getting unbelievable millage.
I'm a life long Ford guy, and I'm seriously considering a Ram.

 

[jaha2000]

Sorry yeah. new 2014 GMC.
THE MPG gain might be enough to swing my choice

 

[Meghan54]

The new GM trucks are supposed to be very, very nice and I wouldn't hesitate to buy one. Given that, I'd honestly look at a Ram. Since they moved to coil rear springs, the ride is supposedly about the best out of all the full sized trucks, and it'd be the only Chrysler-owned product I'd own. The Rams are nothing like any other Chrysler product with respect to durability, reliability, etc., but are vastly superior. Most all the people I know that have one love them.

I think you're doing yourself an injustice to not at least go test drive one before making your purchasing decision. Wouldn't cost you anything but a little time.

 

[Sluggo]

They are all good choices, even the Dodge. I personally have had good experiences with GM, but not everyone shares my love for them.

Visually the Dodge seems to have tiny back doors on the crewcab, but I don't know that for a fact.

A friend has a Tundra, and the back window that slides down is an awesome feature on nice weather days. That alone is almost worth buying a Tundra.

Another friend had an Ecoboost F-150, nice truck, but I don't like the motor. Inside the cab the engine doesn't seem nearly as smooth as a V8.

I would love to buy a new GM truck, but I hate tearing up nice trucks at work, so I buy used ones. In a year or two I will have moved up to a 2010-2012 model.

Drive them all, find what suits your tastes and budget. They all have slightly different features and good aspect and bad aspects.

 

[jaha2000]

I would buy the tundra in a heartbeat if the MPG was a bit better.. The back window thing is sweet..

The pricing on the GM trucks is insane, i cant believe how much they will discount them down to get you into them, its nuts. 46K truck and i just got an email saying they will goto 38k.

 

[halik]

Well someone's gotta to: why a truck rather than an SUV if you don't mind me asking?

Especially in michigan, salt just eats the hell out of the exposed wheel wells in the back. Not a problem for work vehicle with 4-5 year lifespan (who cares), more of an issue if it's a dd.

 

[jaha2000]

Personal choice. But there are plans for a large boat in our future.

 

[halik]

Personal choice. But there are plans for a large boat in our future.

Ah, i still maintain that vast majority of truck owners would be better off with an SUV. This goes x100 for anyone that buys a crew cab/extended cab/5 people can sit there thingy... that in itself says I wanted an SUV, but all hat and no cattle.

 

[herm0016]

Ah, i still maintain that vast majority of truck owners would be better off with an SUV. This goes x100 for anyone that buys a crew cab/extended cab/5 people can sit there thingy... that in itself says I wanted an SUV, but all hat and no cattle.

no way. I use my ext. cab bed for way more things than i could ever use an suv for. a 6.5 foot bed is a great size. I do agree on the 5 foot beds though. the ext. cab makes it possible because you have inside storage, and no need for the tool box that takes up 2 feet of an 8 foot bed truck. and with the gate down, I can still support a 4x8 whatever without it hanging over.

 

[Demo24]

Either the GMC or Ram, probably the Ram with a diesel if I had to buy today. But if I was buying a truck I'd really try to wait on the 2015 F150. Wouldn't even consider a Tundra, too old at this point.

 

[Jumpem]

2015 f150.

 

[mmntech]

What are you using it for?

The Sierra, IMO, is the classic workman's truck. Nothing really fancy about them, but they're indestructible. If your looking for an American truck to abuse, this is it. I don't have any experience with the Tundra/Tacoma. All I can say is they're Toyotas. You could probably drive it off a cliff and keep going. It's probably the second most popular truck I see on job sites.

The RAM 1500 and the F150 are white hat trucks. It's what the boss drives around it. They can be used for work and will hold up to abuse okay. They're built for comfort and have more bells and whistles on them. Realistically, they're either a mobile office or to take the kids to hockey practice. If you're doing that, you shouldn't be looking at a truck. I've driven both but I'd probably get the F150 out of the two if your looking for a gasoline truck.

If you want diesel, I'd probably go RAM. I've driven the F-450 diesel and they're okay. They're unwieldily to drive though thanks to their super long nose. Especially if you've got a big box on the back. I think the Cummins in the RAM 2500 & 3500 is an all around better engine. Though it sounds like you don't need a truck quite that beefy as those.

 

[Greenman]

Ah, i still maintain that vast majority of truck owners would be better off with an SUV. This goes x100 for anyone that buys a crew cab/extended cab/5 people can sit there thingy... that in itself says I wanted an SUV, but all hat and no cattle.

Trucks are the new SUV's. 9 out of 10 I see on the road are 4 door short bed pickups, generally loaded with every bell and whistle that can be crammed between 4 wheels. If it's huge, it will sell.

 

[Greenman]

I stopped by the local Ram dealer today, not a single long bed on the lot, not a single diesel on the lot. Every 1/2 ton truck was a 4 door short box with a big V8.
I would have thought with gas getting up near four bucks a gallon fuel economy would be a big deal, but apparently, I was completely mistaken. According to the salesman, $45k giant fuel hogs are what sells, they don't bring anything else on the lot.

 

[skyking]

That's going to be a problem. I talked to some sales managers and they won't see any of the diesel 1500s in basic trim.
They will all be leather loaded crew cab $55,000 trucks.

 

[Zargon]

Well someone's gotta to: why a truck rather than an SUV if you don't mind me asking?

Especially in michigan, salt just eats the hell out of the exposed wheel wells in the back. Not a problem for work vehicle with 4-5 year lifespan (who cares), more of an issue if it's a dd.

plenty of ways to prevent that

 

[jaha2000]

A quick stop at the ram dealer showed what everybody spoke of above. Want a diesel? 55k to get you in the game. Thats not an option.
I would wait for the new ford, but a new child is going to push that decision up sooner. 2 car seats are not an option in the FJ cruiser.
Drove the Tundra and the Sierra back to back yesterday. Driving dynamics are not all that different. Its going to be a tough call..
In a drag race, there is no doubt who would win out off all three. Its the one with the most domestic parts

 

[halik]

plenty of ways to prevent that

How? Trunk liners won't do whole lot, since the rear wheels continuously fling stones against the sheet metal. It will chip right off.

Those cars are simply spec'd out to 5 year lifespan, normal vehicles have rubber wheel well liners to prevent this.

 

[skyking]

my 96 dodge has plastic liners. Not saying it does not have rust on the frame, but the fenders have been protected for years now.

 

[Spec412]

Gmc Sierra

 

[halik]

my 96 dodge has plastic liners. Not saying it does not have rust on the frame, but the fenders have been protected for years now.

I was at a Ford store 2 weeks back and they had a brand new f150 crew cab. The rear wheel wells were definitely bare, no liners what so ever.

 

[Greenman]

That's going to be a problem. I talked to some sales managers and they won't see any of the diesel 1500s in basic trim.
They will all be leather loaded crew cab $55,000 trucks.

It would have to be ordered. Which is OK because I would want the payload package, towing package, diesel engine, 3.55 differential, AC, and nothing else. It will be the same problem with Ford, they simply don't build 1/2 ton work trucks anymore because they sell so few of them.
Even contractors are starting to use short bed tall trucks, I see them at the lumber yard trying to load a vehicle that simply isn't designed to carry material.

 

[Lounatik]

I was at a Ford store 2 weeks back and they had a brand new f150 crew cab. The rear wheel wells were definitely bare, no liners what so ever.

Stupid cost cutting measure on 40k+ vehicles IMO. Can be fixed with a pair of 85.00 wheel well liners.


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Lounatik