truck question - what does 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton mean?

Lifer

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obviously not the weight of the truck, not the amount it could tow. is that the load it can carry in the bed?
 

Rallispec

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Originally posted by: SammyBoy
Originally posted by: Lifer
is that the load it can carry in the bed?

I reckon it is.

So those huge trucks (f350 and such) can't even hold 2000 pounds in the bed?! what if they want to haul a load of gravel or something--- seems like that would weight a lot more than a ton.
 

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Originally posted by: Lifer
obviously not the weight of the truck, not the amount it could tow. is that the load it can carry in the bed?
That's payload capacity, dude.
 

Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: Rallispec
Originally posted by: SammyBoy
Originally posted by: Lifer
is that the load it can carry in the bed?

I reckon it is.

So those huge trucks (f350 and such) can't even hold 2000 pounds in the bed?! what if they want to haul a load of gravel or something--- seems like that would weight a lot more than a ton.
F350 is a one ton payload truck. So is a Dodge 3500 series.

Those are huge trucks by the way.
 

HonkeyDonk

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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: Rallispec
Originally posted by: SammyBoy
Originally posted by: Lifer
is that the load it can carry in the bed?

I reckon it is.

So those huge trucks (f350 and such) can't even hold 2000 pounds in the bed?! what if they want to haul a load of gravel or something--- seems like that would weight a lot more than a ton.
F350 is a one ton payload truck. So is a Dodge 3500 series.

Those are huge trucks by the way.

you still haven't answered his question.
 

Zenmervolt

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It's just a naming convention. Even the "half ton" F-150's can haul more than 1,000 pounds in the bed. At one point long(ish) ago I think those designations actually did coincide with payload capacity but as newer models were introduced the designations stuck even as payload capacity increased.

ZV
 

Lifer

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wow, half ton is only 1000 lbs. isn't that kinda low?

i can cram about 5 guys including myself in my civic plus cargo and we'll almost be at about 1000 lbs.
 
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Originally posted by: HonkeyDonk
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: Rallispec
Originally posted by: SammyBoy
Originally posted by: Lifer
is that the load it can carry in the bed?

I reckon it is.

So those huge trucks (f350 and such) can't even hold 2000 pounds in the bed?! what if they want to haul a load of gravel or something--- seems like that would weight a lot more than a ton.
F350 is a one ton payload truck. So is a Dodge 3500 series.

Those are huge trucks by the way.

you still haven't answered his question.

Nice to see that you haven't contributed/attempted to answer the question either

Well if you go over your payload capacity obviously bad things will happen to your suspension - shocks, springs, airbags, etc. Like Zen said, they obviously hold a lot more now - it's just naming convention. If you need to haul that much you'd get a trailer, or a F350 with a flatbed instead of a normal bed, thereby negating your problem

Edit: from what I can tell, actual payload is calculated by the GVWR - weight of the truck.
 

KenGr

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If you look at the actual official literature, the 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton etc. doesn't appear any more. There was a time, many years ago, that those were approximate capacities but they are much higher now. The allowable load depends on which model of truck you get, which payload package, which optional equipment you have, etc. The payload includes the passengers as well as anything in the bed. I did a quick search and found that the 2002 F-150 could be optioned out for capacities of 1400 to 3100 lbs. Interestingly enough, 4 wheel drive versions have lower capacity because of the heavier chassis.

The "1-ton" F-350 can be outfitted to reach a capacity of almost 3 tons.

Here is a "Click and Clack" column on this:

Half Ton Trucks

 

BAMAVOO

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Bahh. I have seen 3/4 ton trucks haul nearly 7000 lbs. My weak old 87 Bronco easily hauls 3500-4000 in a trailer. My boat was 2400 lbs and I pulled it all over the place with ease.
 

Acts837

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first someone posts they don't know what a chevelle is -- and now this -- What kind of a world do we live in?
 

guyver01

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Pickup Trucks are available in different load carrying capacities. Compact Pickups often feature 1/4 ton (226Kg) capacity while full size Pickups feature 1/2 (453Kg), 3/4 (680Kg) and 1 ton (907Kg) capacities. When Pickups are in use they tend to be either lightly loaded or loaded to capacity. Also, because it is easier to "overload" a Pickup Truck than a passenger car, the tires are more likely to experience more stress.


 

LAUST

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Originally posted by: Lifer
wow, half ton is only 1000 lbs. isn't that kinda low?

i can cram about 5 guys including myself in my civic plus cargo and we'll almost be at about 1000 lbs.
LOL, don't be silly :p

The payload of a 1500 (aka 1/2 ton) GMC 2WD longbed is 2114lbs... now you may drive through :)... and if you want put the Civic in the bed of my truck :D
 

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Originally posted by: Acts837
first someone posts they don't know what a chevelle is -- and now this -- What kind of a world do we live in?

A world where some people couldn't care less about cars; including people like me.
 
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Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Bahh. I have seen 3/4 ton trucks haul nearly 7000 lbs. My weak old 87 Bronco easily hauls 3500-4000 in a trailer. My boat was 2400 lbs and I pulled it all over the place with ease.

Did you even read his question? Payload capacity != towing capacity. Try dumping 7000lbs into the bed of that 3/4 ton truck.

The maximum payload (factory specs anyway) is base GVWR - base weight
 

Hoober

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Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Bahh. I have seen 3/4 ton trucks haul nearly 7000 lbs. My weak old 87 Bronco easily hauls 3500-4000 in a trailer. My boat was 2400 lbs and I pulled it all over the place with ease.

Did you even read his question? Payload capacity != towing capacity. Try dumping 7000lbs into the bed of that 3/4 ton truck.

The maximum payload (factory specs anyway) is base GVWR - base weight

It also depends on the engine.

The weight capacity on my 7.6L turbocharged V8 Diesel F250 is 20,000lbs.

But you need to look at how you're connecting your trailer or whatever you're haulilng. I don't know a hitch made that can take that kind of stress, so you have to look at a fifth wheel.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Bahh. I have seen 3/4 ton trucks haul nearly 7000 lbs. My weak old 87 Bronco easily hauls 3500-4000 in a trailer. My boat was 2400 lbs and I pulled it all over the place with ease.
A trailer is not the cargo bed. The 1/2, 3/4, and 1 ton naming conventions are from a time when they denoted a truck's cargo bed carrying capacity. When towing a trailer, only the tongue weigh contributes to GVWR and proper tongue weight on a 7,000 pound trailer is "only" about 700 pounds. You'd need a 1-ton truck with the flatbed option to get 7,000 pounds of cargo bed capacity.

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Originally posted by: Hoober

It also depends on the engine.

The weight capacity on my 7.6L turbocharged V8 Diesel F250 is 20,000lbs.

But you need to look at how you're connecting your trailer or whatever you're haulilng. I don't know a hitch made that can take that kind of stress, so you have to look at a fifth wheel.

Very true, I just meant as a generality. By 7.6 do you mean 7.3L diesel? (6.0 current, 7.3 former, and 6.9 before that)