Trouble with Tiger MP

[Stiganator]

Guys I have the Tiger MP r1.03 and 256 MB Registered DDR, 2x 1800+, Voodoo 3 3000, 40 GB Maxtor. I am installing a copy of windows from a disc I got from a local computer store, but when I looked at the disc on my other computer Win XP is in a folder on the disk instead of being free on the disk. How can I boot from there to install Win XP. Also when I start up the new computer with no OS should a bios screen come up, because now I am getting nothing. Could it be the board?

 

[altonb1]

"I am installing a copy of windows from a disc I got from a local computer store, but when I looked at the disc on my other computer Win XP is in a folder on the disk instead of being free on the disk."

Can you explain what you mean by free? I don't quite understand the details of your problem at all. However, you can copy the XP CD to your hard drive, boot to a bootable floppy (Windows 9x startup disk will work nicely) and run it from there, if you choose. I don't know the exact path, but you need to run winnt.exe from a command prompt to kick off the install. For that matter, if you boot to a floppy with CD support, you could kick off the install from the CD directly instead of having to copy the files over to the hard drive. Your call.


As for the system board and post, what do you see. anything at all? Ram count? The board should POST. When you turn on the system, the memory should start counting and you should see the BIOS version, probably an Energy Star logo, and maybe a system summary screen. if you are not getting that, try resetting your BIOS. Check your manual and switch the jumper, system switch, whatever to clear the current BIOS values. Do you have any beeps? Do the system fans, hard drives, etc. start running when you turn the system on? Check the power supply. if there is a 115/230 switch, make sure it is set to 115. You may have a problem with the AGP slot if you can't get video, it could be an erroneous BIOS setting causing a problem, or some other component causing the issue. Try removing/swapping the ram and boot with just power supply, system board, video card, and RAM connected. See what happens. If you get video, start adding components (hard drives, CD, etc.) until you encounter the problem again.

Let us know if this is what you are trying to achieve, or if I totally missed the mark on your exact problem. I started to skip your post because I didn't recognize 'Tiger MP' as anything I would have any knowledge about. Your subject doesn't clearly identify your issue, so you may want to edit it further to see if others will hop on the thread, too.

 

[Stiganator]

Well I am just putting this system together. The Tiger Mp is a dual AMD board. By "free" I mean that the .exe file is not contained in a sub directory or folder. The board does not post at all. There is no memory count or bios version the screen is blank. I can't get it to go to a screen so I can't get to a command prompt. Any suggestions? Is it possible that the power isn't sufficient, 300 watt with 30 amps on the 5 volt line? Was r1.03 the one with all the problems, should I RMA it back?

 

[altonb1]

I can't help you with the board rev at all. you may want to do a search on Google and see if you can find anything.

If you are not even getting to POST, I highly recommend that you remove all devices except for the board, ram, CPU and video card and see if the system turns on correctly. As I mentioned earlier, try clearing your CMOS and see if that helps.

Before you can troublehoot the install further, you have to get the system to POST. I read somewhere, on another thread, that a power supply fan /system fan/some kind of fan had to be plugged into a certain socket on the MOBO before it would turn on. It had 2 connectors, and the one closest to the processor socket was connector 2, which could have caused the problem. (Connected to connector2 instead of connector1)

 

[Cuular]

As for the winxp install, it is very picky about the layout of the install files, and will not boot if it has been copied to a subdirectory on the CDROM. Best thing is to recopy the files to a new CDR and make sure that it is not buried in a subdirectory. I ran into the same problem when I was doing the same thing. Computer store copies CD by dragging the drive letter, instead of selecting all the files from the top level of the install CD and dragging them over to the drive.

 

[bozo1]

If you are getting nothing on the screen, your CD isn't your problem.

You need to do your basic troubleshooting:

Remove mobo from case and put on foam or something to ensure something isn't grounding out.
Check your jumper settings very carefully - the Tiger manual isn't very clear as to where pin-1 is on the jumper blocks.
Disconnect your drives from the mobo - same thing with pin-1 not being very clear in the manual.
Reseat your memory - the memory slots in the Tiger seem to be very tight in most boards.
Clear CMOS via the jumper.
Remove all cards except for the video - just have your powersupply, RAM, video card and on/off switch connected. Make sure the on/off switch is connected to the correct set of pins - again the manual thing.
Make sure you have an adequate powersupply.
Try it with one CPU.

 

[Stiganator]

Guys, I've tried two video cards one PCI and one AGP and I tried 32 and 64 bit slots. I reset the cmos twice. I have done everything I can imagine, even the fan thing. Anybody else have ideas?

 

[bozo1]

How about telling us what you've tried. I gave you more suggestions than just another vid card and resetting CMOS.

 

[MikeD83]

My guess: Memory
My reccomendation is try reseating the memory. I have had the same problem. With the exact same results (No video, No post, no beeps). You need to push down, quite hard, on the center of the RAM as well.
Here is my technical explanation: It appears the Tiger MP has a difficult time making good connections between the memory and the bus. The reason it seams as if nothing is happening is because the board thinks their trully is RAM there. This may be due to the board reading a very slight amount of resistance. However, the connection is not good enough to transfer any data.
- Mike

 

[bozo1]

He posted about this in GH and it appears he is getting no power, no fans, nothing. My guess is dead powersupply, 115/230 switch incorrect, or on/off switch not connected properly. My guess is the power switch since he had questions about how to hook it up.

 

[Stiganator]

Guys, could it be that Voodoo isn't compatible with the Tiger MP? I can't find anything that says my power supply is insufficient so I don't know what to do? I'll double check each method. I may have to cave soon and bring it in to the computer shop, but hopefully not.

 

[mastertech01]

GO HERE and check out the many threads on this board. I have one with that Revision and its the most stable and compatible version to date. I highly recommend a 400 watt PSU, preferrably ANTEC PP403X.

I believe you have something gone bad for sure or not installed correctly, but the PSU definitely must be of ample power fot that board. Also make sure you are using compatible memory, Samsung is preferred from what I have seen and works well in mine. You can try just using one processor at a time, and one stick of ram at a time for starters, as well as making SURE you have all the jumpers and front panel connections setup correctly. If you read the manual incorrectly you WILL misconfigure the front panel connectors. Just use Processor, ram, and video card and nothing else till you get some kind of bootup. Also some people have reported the bios MAY not accept some XP processors, but others say they work fine. I am using MP processors.

You also need to specify if you are connected to IDE or using SCSI. If using SCSI I can lend a lot of experience with this board. If using IDE check out the link I gave you and post on that board if you need help. Its a lot slower for replies than here but very experienced with that board...

Let us know how you progress.

 

[Stiganator]

I checked for grounding and tried different settings for the jumpers all to no avail. Could I be really unlucky about the XPs not being supported under my bios or whatever? Should I RMA it back under manufactures warrenty and hopefully get a board back that supports it.

 

[mastertech01]

Have you tried anything else like one processor and swap of ram or one stick at a time? I would hate to see you send a perfectly good board back to get one someone has screwed up and was repaired, simply because your PSU isnt right, or something you can figure out with trial and error. I guess if you really feel the board is bad you can go for it, but that will be very disappointing if you get it back in a month or so and still have the same problem. IMHO

EDIT, BTW what slots do you have your ram in?

 

[Stiganator]

I tried the swapping of processors and RAM. None of it worked, so I had to bring it in today. I'll let you know how it worked out.

 

[Stiganator]

The place I brought it to said it was out of their ability to diagnos a problem. I was like this is crap, I know more about computers than you do. I am gonna RMA the board back and see if I cna pick up an MPX.