Trouble is brewing between me and a real estate agent.

NuclearNed

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I'm still trying to sell my old house.

One elderly lady in particular has looked at the house five (yes, 5) times but has not made an offer yet. The lady's agent keeps calling our agent every few days to talk about the house; according to our agent, the conversations are extremely unproductive and don't go anywhere. Now a piece of info has come to light that makes me wonder what is going on.

The real estate agent who is showing the house to the old lady is the old lady's daughter.

The daughter represents one of the largest real estate firms in town. I'm left wondering if she might not be pushing/showing our house to her clients because she is holding it for her mother. I don't have any evidence to this end, but I just have to wonder.

Anyway, I'm also kind of concerned that the old lady has looked at the house so many times. What can she be doing? Surely by now she knows whether or not she is interested.

Advice?
 

kevnich2

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If you're actually still wondering about this, you're in denial. If the lady is the real estate agent's MOTHER, I'd say you need to confront the real estate agent on this and basically fire her and get a new one. That IMO constitutes breach of the client's best interests, not to mention morals as well. I'd say she's trying to get you to lower your cost for her mother and sell it at an extremely cheaper price while making sure no one else sees the house.
 

waggy

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I have looked at each house i purchesed at LEAST 5 times before i put a offer in.

the first 2 times you are just in love with the house. the last 2-3 times you actually look a little closer at critical things.

anyway how can a agent who is not yours do it? so she keeps comeing over so what. your agent should be pushing the house also.
 

Modular

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There's nothing wrong with showing it to her mother. 5 times is a bit excessive though, no? At this point if her mother is the only one seeing the house, you need to have a talk with her and probably get a new agent.
 

NuclearNed

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Originally posted by: kevnich2
If you're actually still wondering about this, you're in denial. If the lady is the real estate agent's MOTHER, I'd say you need to confront the real estate agent on this and basically fire her and get a new one. That IMO constitutes breach of the client's best interests, not to mention morals as well. I'd say she's trying to get you to lower your cost for her mother and sell it at an extremely cheaper price while making sure no one else sees the house.

I wasn't clear - the lady's daughter who is the agent isn't our agent. If she was, I'd fire her so quickly she wouldn't know what happened.
 

trmiv

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Originally posted by: kevnich2
If you're actually still wondering about this, you're in denial. If the lady is the real estate agent's MOTHER, I'd say you need to confront the real estate agent on this and basically fire her and get a new one. That IMO constitutes breach of the client's best interests, not to mention morals as well. I'd say she's trying to get you to lower your cost for her mother and sell it at an extremely cheaper price while making sure no one else sees the house.

He can't fire an agent that isn't his agent.
 

Daverino

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Your agent is your advocate. If you're not comfortable selling the house to this woman, tell your agent that you will not accept offers from her and be done with it.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: kevnich2
If you're actually still wondering about this, you're in denial. If the lady is the real estate agent's MOTHER, I'd say you need to confront the real estate agent on this and basically fire her and get a new one. That IMO constitutes breach of the client's best interests, not to mention morals as well. I'd say she's trying to get you to lower your cost for her mother and sell it at an extremely cheaper price while making sure no one else sees the house.

I wasn't clear - the lady's daughter who is the agent isn't our agent. If she was, I'd fire her so quickly she wouldn't know what happened.

so whats the problem?

your agent should be pushing it. teh old lady's agent should be pushing houses to the buyer.

i don't see how the other agent could be holding it until it goes lower.
 

NuclearNed

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Originally posted by: waggy
I have looked at each house i purchesed at LEAST 5 times before i put a offer in.

the first 2 times you are just in love with the house. the last 2-3 times you actually look a little closer at critical things.

anyway how can a agent who is not yours do it? so she keeps comeing over so what. your agent should be pushing the house also.

I can understand that. I guess 5 times just seems kind of excessive, particularly because the house is empty.
 

Capt Caveman

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How is this old lady and her daughter the real estate agent impeding the possible sale of your home? If they keep looking at the house and calling your real estate agent to ask questions, it should have no effect on your real estate agent showing the house to other interested parties.

Buying a home is a huge deal to some people and probably why this person has wanted to see the house five times. Nothing to worry about and hopefully it'll lead to an offer.
 

NuclearNed

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: kevnich2
If you're actually still wondering about this, you're in denial. If the lady is the real estate agent's MOTHER, I'd say you need to confront the real estate agent on this and basically fire her and get a new one. That IMO constitutes breach of the client's best interests, not to mention morals as well. I'd say she's trying to get you to lower your cost for her mother and sell it at an extremely cheaper price while making sure no one else sees the house.

I wasn't clear - the lady's daughter who is the agent isn't our agent. If she was, I'd fire her so quickly she wouldn't know what happened.

so whats the problem?

your agent should be pushing it. teh old lady's agent should be pushing houses to the buyer.

i don't see how the other agent could be holding it until it goes lower.

I'm just being paranoid. I just have to wonder if she ever brings up our house to her other clients since she knows her mother has a high interest in it.
 

MmmSkyscraper

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If they're not meeting your expectations, pull it from them if you can. I'm sure there are plenty of other agents who want the commission. If you have a commitment to them, either talk to the agent or her boss and say WTF is going on, how many other people are interested, what are you doing to sell it?
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: kevnich2
If you're actually still wondering about this, you're in denial. If the lady is the real estate agent's MOTHER, I'd say you need to confront the real estate agent on this and basically fire her and get a new one. That IMO constitutes breach of the client's best interests, not to mention morals as well. I'd say she's trying to get you to lower your cost for her mother and sell it at an extremely cheaper price while making sure no one else sees the house.

I wasn't clear - the lady's daughter who is the agent isn't our agent. If she was, I'd fire her so quickly she wouldn't know what happened.

so whats the problem?

your agent should be pushing it. teh old lady's agent should be pushing houses to the buyer.

i don't see how the other agent could be holding it until it goes lower.

I'm just being paranoid. I just have to wonder if she ever brings up our house to her other clients since she knows her mother has a high interest in it.

who knows if she even has other clients. maybe your house is exactly what her mother wants in a price range she wants. so she keeps bringing her back to look at it? maybe she is waiting for it to go down to put a offer on it.

WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT MATTER?

you have an agent. call her and ask if anyone besides the old lady is looking. ask her why they are doing? etc etc.

your agent should be pushing the house ot other agetns etc. what a diffrent agetn is doing has nothing to do with it.

now if you think yoru agent is helping the other one then yeah you have problems.
 

bsobel

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I'm just being paranoid. I just have to wonder if she ever brings up our house to her other clients since she knows her mother has a high interest in it.

Say she isn't bringing other clients, she is under no legal opportunity to do so. She isn't answerable to you, there is nothing you can do.

And 5 times isnt a big deal.

Bill
 

NuclearNed

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: kevnich2
If you're actually still wondering about this, you're in denial. If the lady is the real estate agent's MOTHER, I'd say you need to confront the real estate agent on this and basically fire her and get a new one. That IMO constitutes breach of the client's best interests, not to mention morals as well. I'd say she's trying to get you to lower your cost for her mother and sell it at an extremely cheaper price while making sure no one else sees the house.

I wasn't clear - the lady's daughter who is the agent isn't our agent. If she was, I'd fire her so quickly she wouldn't know what happened.

so whats the problem?

your agent should be pushing it. teh old lady's agent should be pushing houses to the buyer.

i don't see how the other agent could be holding it until it goes lower.

I'm just being paranoid. I just have to wonder if she ever brings up our house to her other clients since she knows her mother has a high interest in it.

who knows if she even has other clients. maybe your house is exactly what her mother wants in a price range she wants. so she keeps bringing her back to look at it? maybe she is waiting for it to go down to put a offer on it.

WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT MATTER?

you have an agent. call her and ask if anyone besides the old lady is looking. ask her why they are doing? etc etc.

your agent should be pushing the house ot other agetns etc. what a diffrent agetn is doing has nothing to do with it.

now if you think yoru agent is helping the other one then yeah you have problems.

The reason it matters is because if the daughter is deliberately not showing the house to her other clients, then my house has a less chance of being sold.

Admittedly, I'm just being paranoid and I have no evidence that this is happening, just a suspicion.

One of the guys at work said that if the agent is actually holding the house for her mother, then she might be both breaking the law and violating her real estate license.
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: waggywho knows if she even has other clients. maybe your house is exactly what her mother wants in a price range she wants. so she keeps bringing her back to look at it? maybe she is waiting for it to go down to put a offer on it.

WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT MATTER?

you have an agent. call her and ask if anyone besides the old lady is looking. ask her why they are doing? etc etc.

your agent should be pushing the house ot other agetns etc. what a diffrent agetn is doing has nothing to do with it.

now if you think yoru agent is helping the other one then yeah you have problems.

The other agent is part of a large real estate firm. Let's say she has 50 clients right now asking her about homes. She tells 49 of them about all the homes she knows of except for the OP's home so she can give her mom as long of an opportunity as she likes.

It sucks and it does matter.

However, there's nothing stopping the other agent from doing this, nor is there anything the OP can do about it.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: NuclearNed

I'm just being paranoid. I just have to wonder if she ever brings up our house to her other clients since she knows her mother has a high interest in it.

It's not her job to sell your house. :confused:
 

boomerang

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I used to sell Real Estate.

An agent's primary interest is to sell their own listings. Keeps their customers happy and they double-dip on the commission. Makes them look like a hero. They get a commission to list and one when they sell.

Their second priority is to sell the listings within their own office. Keeps the broker happy.

The last thing they want to do is sell a house listed by another company. The commission is then split between the two companies (listing and selling) and everyone makes less all the way down the line.

This is why it is in the best interest of a seller to list their home for sale with a local company. Agents in their area want to sell in their area. An agent is unlikely to have a customer looking for a home 50 miles away and they sure as hell don't want to be driving around in unfamiliar territory showing houses.

Listing your home for sale with a friend or relative that works in an office out of your area can be the kiss of death.

This post is for informational puposes only and may or may not have any bearing on your current situation. Do you like my disclaimer? :)
 

NuclearNed

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: NuclearNed

I'm just being paranoid. I just have to wonder if she ever brings up our house to her other clients since she knows her mother has a high interest in it.

It's not her job to sell your house. :confused:

Huh? It's not a real estate agent's job to sell available homes, and thereby gain commission for themselves? :confused:
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: NuclearNed

I'm just being paranoid. I just have to wonder if she ever brings up our house to her other clients since she knows her mother has a high interest in it.

It's not her job to sell your house. :confused:

Huh? It's not a real estate agent's job to sell available homes, and thereby gain commission for themselves? :confused:

It's only the job of YOUR agent to sell YOUR house. If the daughter of the old lady is not your agent, then it is not her job to sell your house. It is her job to help her client buy your house if her client wants it.
 

bsobel

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One of the guys at work said that if the agent is actually holding the house for her mother, then she might be both breaking the law and violating her real estate license.

Hint: your guy at work is an idiot.
 

NuclearNed

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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: NuclearNed

I'm just being paranoid. I just have to wonder if she ever brings up our house to her other clients since she knows her mother has a high interest in it.

It's not her job to sell your house. :confused:

Huh? It's not a real estate agent's job to sell available homes, and thereby gain commission for themselves? :confused:

It's only the job of YOUR agent to sell YOUR house. If the daughter of the old lady is not your agent, then it is not her job to sell your house. It is her job to help her client buy your house if her client wants it.

I think we are wrangling over wording here, so I think I understand what you are saying. However, as someone who was once a commissioned salesperson in college, I would say that it is a commissioned salesperson's job to sell anything and everything possible in order to make as much $$$ as possible. That worked very well for me, anyway.
 

NuclearNed

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Originally posted by: bsobel
One of the guys at work said that if the agent is actually holding the house for her mother, then she might be both breaking the law and violating her real estate license.

Hint: your guy at work is an idiot.

Confirmed many times over. It's funny how even people on the internet who have never met him can sense this. :laugh:
 

Capt Caveman

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The daughter is trying to help her mother buy a house. It may be yours or it may not. Only thing you can do is have your agent press the daughter to find out if an offer is coming or not. Nothing really to be concerned about unless your agent is doing nothing b/c he/she is waiting for the old lady to put an offer in.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: waggy
I have looked at each house i purchesed at LEAST 5 times before i put a offer in.

the first 2 times you are just in love with the house. the last 2-3 times you actually look a little closer at critical things.

anyway how can a agent who is not yours do it? so she keeps comeing over so what. your agent should be pushing the house also.

I can understand that. I guess 5 times just seems kind of excessive, particularly because the house is empty.

This thread is ridiculous. All you have to do is tell them you no longer want that agent or that lady visiting and be done with it.

However; if no one else is looking then I'd personally be as accomodating as possible if you really want to sell and are not just hanging on to property in hopes of hitting the lottery.

It's not uncommon for a family member to represent another in a real estate deal. The only time that is a problem is if they are on opposite sides that could potentially hurt the profit potential. That said if someone's mother was your agent and you are getting the price you wanted then there is no problem.