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Harvey

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Originally posted by: bozack

can one really use morality and politics in the same sentence...honestly...

Can one really HOPE to find a little morality in our leaders? Yes, we can HOPE to find it... except from apologists like you who are willing to ignore the IMmorality and criminality of the past eight years and vote for more of the same.

If it continues, blame yourself. :thumbsdown:

Like I said, for me this one indiscretion does nothing to change anything...

It's far more thatn "one indiscretion." This was a pattern of malicious abuse of power directed first at Palin's brother in law and then, at his superior when he refused to fall in line with Palin's vindictive vendetta.

We're just getting rid of one vindictive criminal adminstration. There's no excuse for accepting more of the same from McCain and Palin. Regardless of your personal political views, there comes a time when you simply don't vote for the crooks.
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

You've taken your rant into stupidity territory. Congratulations . . .

Never once claimed to be a member of mensa there chief.
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
There's a difference between continuing to support McCain and wanting a President Obama to fail. I support Obama but would certainly want a President McCain to be a resounding success (and, as an aside, feel strongly he would be a huge step up from our present leadership).

This is where I guess we differ, I have no problem hoping that Obama's tenure in office is a total disaster for the guy...but the reality is that even if it were we probabily wouldn't know about it.
 

bctbct

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Vic
And I say "yet another" because just yesterday, Butterbrain used the term "American sheeple."

True partisan colors always come out in moments like this. You get to see who really values country and morality ahead of party and ideology.

can one really use morality and politics in the same sentence...honestly...

Like I said, for me this one indiscretion does nothing to change anything...I still find myself falling in line with what McCain and the republicans are pushing from a policy standpoint than I do the socialized offering Obama is putting up...I can barely stand Massachusetts being as fucked up as it is from a tax and lack of service standpoint, I shudder to think if things were to get as bad on a federal level.

considering the RNC just bought the banking system today thats a funny statement.

 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: quest55720
I could not care one bit about this. The alternative is worse than Palin. I don't want to see Nancy Pelosi have free reign over this country.

Which is the same reason you would give if Adolf Hitler ran as (R). You can justify voting for anyone if you demonize the opponent enough, and you are not short on that.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Hugh H
Originally posted by: Dari
Can someone explain to me what the big deal is here?

Your next VP might be an unrepentant lawbreaker.

in fairness, we had a president who was and he did just dandy :p

Unfortunately, the rest of the nation and the world didn't.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Harvey
Am I moderating in this thread? No.

Am I a member with the same right to post as you? Yes.

Is sarcasm barred? No.

Does my post express my thoughts about your statement that, given what you now know about Palin's illegal, malicious abuse of the power of her office, you'd still vote for her to sit less than a heartbeat away from becoming President? YEP!

Harvy, my dissention from years past stands, you partisan a holes shouldn't be allowed to moderate this board in any capacity, yet you do...and if they give you the ability to drop the hammer then you shouldn't be allowed to spew your bullshit. But then again it is Anand's sandbox so whatever, this is just my typical rant.

And illegal malicious abuse of power, please compared to the indiscretions of others in the political arean this is pretty tame, but then again I expect you liberal whackjobs to make every thing into the equavilent of Everest, and that heartbeat bullshit always makes me chuckle, but whatever it takes for you guys to get a chubby...

Either way, your circle jerking over this or my bitching doesn't mean shit in the grand scheme of things...so what's the point?

Isn't there a board called Freepers or Free Republic more suited to your liking? :confused:
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
There's a difference between continuing to support McCain and wanting a President Obama to fail. I support Obama but would certainly want a President McCain to be a resounding success (and, as an aside, feel strongly he would be a huge step up from our present leadership).

This is where I guess we differ, I have no problem hoping that Obama's tenure in office is a total disaster for the guy...but the reality is that even if it were we probabily wouldn't know about it.
Damn, you seem extremely angry. Were you never shown Aesop's fable about the sour grapes when you were young?

 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: bozack
I still find myself falling in line with what McCain and the republicans are pushing from a policy standpoint than I do the socialized offering Obama is putting up.

So you are firmly in favor of McCain's idea to spend hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars of your money to buy up all the bad mortgages at face value?

THAT'S not Socialism to you?

 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Can one really HOPE to find a little morality in our leaders? Yes, we can HOPE to find it... except from apologists like you who are willing to ignore the IMmorality and criminality of the past eight years and vote for more of the same.

If it continues, blame yourself. :thumbsdown:

It's far more thatn "one indiscretion." This was a pattern of malicious abuse of power directed first at Palin's brother in law and then, at his superior when he refused to fall in line with Palin's vindictive vendetta.

We're just getting rid of one vindictive criminal adminstration. There's no excuse for accepting more of the same from McCain and Palin. Regardless of your personal political views, there comes a time when you simply don't vote for the crooks.

The problem is Harvey I did ok the past 8 years so why would I really want anything to change?

And since I am a vindictive a hole myself maybe I can relate? then again I am not drinking the Obama kool aid like you all are, and I don't really care much about McCain or Palin, I just don't want the same policies and ideologies that are so prevalent in my state spread on a national level...plain and simple and if that means voting for something with a less than spotless record over someone who represents virtually everything I stand against from an economic and social standpoint then so be it...plain and simple.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: bozack
I still find myself falling in line with what McCain and the republicans are pushing from a policy standpoint than I do the socialized offering Obama is putting up.

So you are firmly in favor of McCain's idea to spend hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars of your money to buy up all the bad mortgages at face value?

THAT'S not Socialism to you?
Course not. If it's republicans it's necessary, democrats it's socialism.

 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
There's a difference between continuing to support McCain and wanting a President Obama to fail. I support Obama but would certainly want a President McCain to be a resounding success (and, as an aside, feel strongly he would be a huge step up from our present leadership).

I have no problem hoping that Obama's tenure in office is a total disaster for the guy

Why are you here in the United States when you hate it so much? :confused:
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Vic
I've always said that loyal partisanship exists solely as an expedient cover up for political corruption, and thanks for proving me right on that.

So people are supposed to ignore their own personal values in situations such as this Vic for what? a lesser of two evils scenerio...sorry, this case means little to me, I don't give one shit if she abused power to boot out her sisters ex, to me that pales in comparison to getting a socialist in the oval office, period.

So you condone abuse of power because of this phony threat that Obama is a socialist? :roll:

Thanks for proving my point.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Hugh H
Originally posted by: Dari
Can someone explain to me what the big deal is here?

Your next VP might be an unrepentant lawbreaker.

in fairness, we had a president who was and he did just dandy :p

Unfortunately, the rest of the nation and the world didn't.

Harvey hating on Bubba and Dari being attacked from the left? did someone forget to tell me that today was an impromptu opposite day or something?
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: bozack
I still find myself falling in line with what McCain and the republicans are pushing from a policy standpoint than I do the socialized offering Obama is putting up.

So you are firmly in favor of McCain's idea to spend hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars of your money to buy up all the bad mortgages at face value?

THAT'S not Socialism to you?

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bozack

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Originally posted by: Perknose
So you are firmly in favor of McCain's idea to spend hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars of your money to buy up all the bad mortgages at face value?

THAT'S not Socialism to you?

Yeah, that sucks, but I view that as either would have done it if put in office so it was a shaft job either way...

my big issue is socialized healthcare....of even worse if they use the Massachusetts model for everyone..not something I am a fan of.
 

StageLeft

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Well, I don't want my buzz killed. I think this is just great news. I'm off to gloat elsewhere on the net, maybe spam some of my friends, etc. toodles :)
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Hugh H
Originally posted by: Dari
Can someone explain to me what the big deal is here?

Your next VP might be an unrepentant lawbreaker.

in fairness, we had a president who was and he did just dandy :p

Unfortunately, the rest of the nation and the world didn't.

Harvey hating on Bubba and Dari being attacked from the left? did someone forget to tell me that today was an impromptu opposite day or something?

The General Elections brings out the very best in the America haters.
 

TheSlamma

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Harvey
Can one really HOPE to find a little morality in our leaders? Yes, we can HOPE to find it... except from apologists like you who are willing to ignore the IMmorality and criminality of the past eight years and vote for more of the same.

If it continues, blame yourself. :thumbsdown:

It's far more thatn "one indiscretion." This was a pattern of malicious abuse of power directed first at Palin's brother in law and then, at his superior when he refused to fall in line with Palin's vindictive vendetta.

We're just getting rid of one vindictive criminal adminstration. There's no excuse for accepting more of the same from McCain and Palin. Regardless of your personal political views, there comes a time when you simply don't vote for the crooks.

The problem is Harvey I did ok the past 8 years so why would I really want anything to change?

And since I am a vindictive a hole myself maybe I can relate? then again I am not drinking the Obama kool aid like you all are, and I don't really care much about McCain or Palin, I just don't want the same policies and ideologies that are so prevalent in my state spread on a national level...plain and simple and if that means voting for something with a less than spotless record over someone who represents virtually everything I stand against from an economic and social standpoint then so be it...plain and simple.
That's because you are a fucking Chickenhawk, join the military and see if it effects you.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: bctbct

I hope that Palin does bow out so McCain can come up with another Veepicon.

Which still leaves the obvious commentary on McCain's judgment in choosing her in the first place.


We have a winner!
McCain himself has said he makes rush decisions and then lives with them.
People tend to forget that the big question about McCain when he ran against Bush was did he have the temperment to be President.

 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Perknose
So you are firmly in favor of McCain's idea to spend hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars of your money to buy up all the bad mortgages at face value?

THAT'S not Socialism to you?

Yeah, that sucks, but I view that as either would have done it if put in office so it was a shaft job either way...

my big issue is socialized healthcare....of even worse if they use the Massachusetts model for everyone..not something I am a fan of.

Are you broke because of it?
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Why are you here in the United States when you hate it so much? :confused:

Dave, I am not you, I haven't been here bitching for years on end about the country and how I got screwd for being a dipshit in one of my jobs and fired...

The past 8 years hasn't been horrible for me at all, only the past two got a little worse on the local level since I screwed myself over and voted democrat for our horrible governor Deval Patrick....don't want to make that mistake again.
 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Well, I don't want my buzz killed. I think this is just great news. I'm off to gloat elsewhere on the net, maybe spam some of my friends, etc. toodles :)

:D