Trooper tells 911 caller seeking help, "Too bad"

[jalaram]

Originally posted by: armatron
typical cop attitude.



and this is a repost

Yeah, but Skoorb's post would've been hard to find with a search. Besides, IIRC Amused hates the new search.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: Specop 007
I'm not saying what he did is right, if that was my kid who he said that to I'd have half a mind to shove my boot in his ass.
But, the point is from a legal perspective its well within his bounds to tell you too bad and hang up the phone.

I bet you'd want to stick a boot up his ass and then some!

Legally the police may not have to respond to event XYZ (which is FUBAR, someone please explain that to me) but his attitude on the day was unacceptable. If he was going to deny assistance, he should have done it in the appropriate manner.

Hey, I'm not saying or hinting that what he did was right. Simply stating that legally its within his bounds to tell you to pound sand, state hes dispatching officers to shoot your dog then hang up.

See my post at the top of this page for a link to proof cops dont have to do anything.

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
that's too bad

/thread.

In all seriousness...that Trooper should be fired. What could have possibly prompted him to respond that way?

Simple. Law Enforcement is not required by law to do a damned thing. So technically (And legally) his answer was perfectly fine.

What makes you say that he isn't required by law to do anything? Surely you've heard of Peace Officer's Associations and the oaths you have to take when becoming a member right? What about the contract you sign with the department you join, or the State laws governing response and behavior? I don't see how you can make a blanket statement unless you are extremely familiar with the laws of that state.

I made a post...Ohhh, 3 weeks back perhaps, that cited a number of Court cases that support exactly what I've said.
We dont have to like it, but the Courts have ruled on a number of occasions that the police agencies are not required to render aid and assistance.

Whether or not the officer did anything illegal was never the point of this thread/story. The point is he's a dipshit who picked the wrong job.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: mobobuff

Whether or not the officer did anything illegal was never the point of this thread/story. The point is he's a dipshit who picked the wrong job.

Why did he pick the wrong job. He's performing his job duties as required by law.
Yes, he is a dipshit but hell man I work with half a dozen of them every day I go to work!

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: mobobuff

Whether or not the officer did anything illegal was never the point of this thread/story. The point is he's a dipshit who picked the wrong job.

Why did he pick the wrong job. He's performing his job duties as required by law.
Yes, he is a dipshit but hell man I work with half a dozen of them every day I go to work!

Most of those dipshits can probably perform the basic requirements detailed in their job description. This guy, on the other hand, obviously can't. He should be fired. You're arguing that law enforcement is not obligated legally to protect or serve, but here on ATOT we've been over that about 10 times and everybody agrees that it is fact. It's official and confirmed, I don't know why you're pressing it in this thread too. Simple fact is the guy failed to do his job, and made an ass of himself in the progress.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Most of those dipshits can probably perform the basic requirements detailed in their job description. This guy, on the other hand, obviously can't. He should be fired. You're arguing that law enforcement is not obligated legally to protect or serve, but here on ATOT we've been over that about 10 times and everybody agrees that it is fact. It's official and confirmed, I don't know why you're pressing it in this thread too. Simple fact is the guy failed to do his job, and made an ass of himself in the progress.

ATOT can think the world is flat for all I care, doesnt make it so. Just because a bunch of techie nerds say the cops are legally obligated to respond doesnt make it the truth.
I suggest you review the link I posted above.

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Most of those dipshits can probably perform the basic requirements detailed in their job description. This guy, on the other hand, obviously can't. He should be fired. You're arguing that law enforcement is not obligated legally to protect or serve, but here on ATOT we've been over that about 10 times and everybody agrees that it is fact. It's official and confirmed, I don't know why you're pressing it in this thread too. Simple fact is the guy failed to do his job, and made an ass of himself in the progress.

ATOT can think the world is flat for all I care, doesnt make it so. Just because a bunch of techie nerds say the cops are legally obligated to respond doesnt make it the truth.
I suggest you review the link I posted above.

Dude, slow the fuck down and read my post. I told you that we've been over the topic many times on ATOT and we've came to the proven conclusion that law enforcement is NOT OBLIGATED BY LAW to protect. But that's NOT THE POINT OF THIS TOPIC. It's a man's failure to perform his job to its requirements, and the severity of the consequences.

 

[NFS4]

How the hell did the cop know that the motorcyclist was "Playing Games." That fvcker should be fired on the spot.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
that's too bad

/thread.

In all seriousness...that Trooper should be fired. What could have possibly prompted him to respond that way?

Simple. Law Enforcement is not required by law to do a damned thing. So technically (And legally) his answer was perfectly fine.

I read your thread from a while ago. I think you're right, this cop was fine. In fact I think we should simply remove all police departments from the country, since obviously they are getting paid to do something they have no moral or legal obligation to do. I see no problem whatsoever with a cop not answering an accident or domestic dispute because he's too busy eating lunch or drinking coffee. For me that's just perfectly fine.

 

[maziwanka]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
that's too bad

/thread.

In all seriousness...that Trooper should be fired. What could have possibly prompted him to respond that way?

i absolutely agree. just reading this makes my blood boil.

 

[saxophonoia]

That's messed up.......but I laughed anyway

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Here you go Mill, found it

Thread

Regardless of what contracts or oaths they take, the police are NOT required by law to do a damned thing for you.
On a side note, thats one reason I'm so pro-gun. The very agency thats supposed to keep my ass safe isnt even requried to do that! But thats a topic for another thread.

Perhaps, I'm wrong, but I consider this to be two entirely different things. One is responding to a call of violence to provide protection, and the other is about responding to an accident in which they were requested to notify OTHER Emergency Services/Dispatch medical help and/or respond I consider if very different. In fact, I'd say it is closer to how Doctors cannot refuse to treat someone based on insurance/looks when it comes to Emergency Stabilization. His attitude of not passing on the message to the proper channels as a part of the E911 system is a wholly different issue than providing personal protection to victims of a crime.

I think you are trying to find a square peg into a round hole here. Nowhere in those briefs does it address anything other than protection. It says that the Constitution does NOT promise the protection of your life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, but rather limits the state in what it can do to limit those freedoms. On the contrary, not passing on E911 information doesn't appear to even be remotely related to the "protection" of rights, but seems to be an issue of the laws in that state or even federal laws regarding medical care and state laws regarding the E911 system and what those in it are required to do. Furthermore, Good Samaritan laws(even though I disagree with them) have not been found unconstitutional and in a vague way could apply here if that state had such a law.

"Not required to do a damn thing for you..." and then protection of your rights from criminals are TWO entirely different statements. One is "slightly" more broad and ambiguous than the other. On the contrary -- legally -- it is apparent that Emergency Services staff do have *some* legal requirement when it comes to aid -- again see doctors and stabilization during Emergency care in cases on paupers/no insurance.

I think you are trying to oversimplify one different idea into this case. The stuff you are quoting is NRA fodder about how we need guns to protect ourselves, and not about the duties that some Public Officials have to the citizenry in the case of medical care, etc

 

[Brazen]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Most of those dipshits can probably perform the basic requirements detailed in their job description. This guy, on the other hand, obviously can't. He should be fired. You're arguing that law enforcement is not obligated legally to protect or serve, but here on ATOT we've been over that about 10 times and everybody agrees that it is fact. It's official and confirmed, I don't know why you're pressing it in this thread too. Simple fact is the guy failed to do his job, and made an ass of himself in the progress.

ATOT can think the world is flat for all I care, doesnt make it so. Just because a bunch of techie nerds say the cops are legally obligated to respond doesnt make it the truth.
I suggest you review the link I posted above.

Even though I'm a System Administrator, I am not required by LAW to fix a server when it goes down. But if the email server goes down and I just tell people, oh well too bad I guess we won't have email anymore, I would be fired. It doesn't have to be "required by law" for it to be someone's responsibility. Your argument it retarded.

And this guy was dismissing someone's LIFE! Not just some computer.

 

[yobarman]

asshole cops.

 

[icejunkie]

15 days? I'd fire his ass!!!

 

[FoBoT]

i heard this story on the radio this morning, i do not understand it
was he having a bad day? did he really think it was a prank call? i don't get it

 

[five40]

Originally posted by: NFS4
How the hell did the cop know that the motorcyclist was "Playing Games." That fvcker should be fired on the spot.

This matches the pattern of every dick cop I've ever met. They always think you are always fvcking around. And of course they are ALWAYS right. They are all knowing police who are with you at all times. They see all, hear all, know all, therefore they are able to make perfect judgements. What the police need to do is stop sitting around all day looking for people breaking stupid laws (like barely rolling a stop sign, going a little fast (not excesive speeding), a headlight out, a taillight out, or one of the other million stupid things they look for). They need to be out catching theifs, murderers, drunk drivers. I could care less if some punk kid passes me going 15mph over the speed limit. Now I do care if some drunk moron comes swerving in my lane at me. Damn it they need to get their priorities straight.

 

[Triumph]

If ever there was motivation for public humiliations, this would be it. This guy, who failed to serve and protect the public, should be punished by the public. :|

From another news article Link

Meanwhile, the state police union tells us Trooper Peasley is remorseful for his comments but the union says the discipline is inappropriate and harsh.

The family of Justin Sawyer says a 15 day suspension isn't tough enough.

F&cking goddamn unions, Take responsibility for your members for once. Stop providing this blanket protection regardless of the reality of the situation. And they wonder why people have such a bad opinion of unions in general.

 

[Pepsi90919]

I could care less if some punk kid passes me going 15mph over the speed limit.

so why don't you?

 

[randal]

I wonder why a state trooper -- a guy who is almost always cruising the open highway -- was directly answering 911 calls. I didn't know they took shifts at 911 emergency centers. Every time I've heard of anybody calling 911 they always talk about it's a professionally trained 911 "answerer," not joe-cop filling in.

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
that's too bad

/thread.

In all seriousness...that Trooper should be fired. What could have possibly prompted him to respond that way?

Unfortunately - that's what unions are for... keeping this a$$ in his job.

 

[bobbybe01]

Originally posted by: armatron
and this is a repost

Too bad.

 

[StageLeft]

Meanwhile, the state police union tells us Trooper Peasley is remorseful for his comments but the union says the discipline is inappropriate and harsh.

What in all hell. Yesterday two threads were made about this and everyone said the unions were dicks, and look at that, they are. 15 days too harsh? Good christ, what does it take to get fired, if you're a cop? Do you have to shoot up the station, take all the drug evidence and work your way to the top of the mafia? Will that get you fired?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: jalaram

Originally posted by: armatron
typical cop attitude.



and this is a repost

Yeah, but Skoorb's post would've been hard to find with a search. Besides, IIRC Amused hates the new search.

Yes, the new search sucks. I am no longer responsible for reposts of topics in which the OP did not create a descriptive thread title.