TROLL PATROL

[Ulfwald]

How about we start a new group on this board that is officially in charge of mediating deals gone bad, taking care of the legal issues, and all the other stuff that goes on with a bad trade. We could come up with a way of compensating the people who work on it with say a 10% "donation" to the TROLL PATROL? Any ideas, comments criticisms? I know Roger does a hellavu job here, and it appears that Livin4real is also on the honest traders side. Let me know what you think, and if this a feesible idea.

 

[Cylon]

I thought that was what the moderators were here for? I guess I'm missing the point, is this just something for the For Sale/Trade Forum alone? Or the entire BBS in general?

Not a bad idea, but I think it would be very difficult to implement (i.e. who would be chosen? what criterion would you use to determine that? etc.).

 

[Ulfwald]

Like I said, give me your suggestions, ideas and soforth. I just thought of this.

I guess Roger could head up the Posse. Frenchie, since he is a lawyer can help us out on a legal aspect. Livin4real is a law enforcement official, he can help out by getting in touch with the local officials and ask for a little professional courtesy. The mods can help track ip addresses, snail mail addresses, phone numbers, etc. Possible forum for listing bad traders, and good traders, I know about the heatware, it's just that we need many ways to track these people, especially if they change nics the mods would be the only ones responsible for posting to this forum, email them with the information, and they could send out the troll hunters and then make an accurate post once all the facts are in on the issue. They can also let us know if the issue is resolved or still pending, or the final outcome of the whole thing. Members can search the thread, but only the mods and the members of the troll patrol can post to the forum.

Any other ideas? Questions? Comments? Criticism?

 

[Ulfwald]

Thanks Paulson, but this is just an idea for right now. What we need are more suggestions, and this would be an ongoing project that would need a lot of legal help as well. Point some of the key people on this board to this thread and try to get them to give some input.

 

[Ulfwald]

ttt

 

[SlickWilly]

Quote Paulson

"i seriously wouldn't mind doing this, since i'm here and paTROLL all the time"

End Quote

 

[Ulfwald]

Good one Slick, but his heart is in the right place most of the time. Just needs a little coaching and maturity remember WE were all his age at one time.

 

[SlickWilly]

Yeah I know, but he's the start of many a good laugh because we can all relate. I was a VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY bad Troll on AGN's bbs a few years back. At heart I'm still a troll too

 

[Ulfwald]

Hopefully you are not a TROLL TRADER. This thread was started for ideas in helping to keep this board safe for buyers, sellers, and traders. Not to bash Paulson. BTW, WTF with the flanders remark?

 

[SlickWilly]

You know Flander from The Simpsons? That one post you had sounded like it came from him. It wasn't meant to be bashing though...just good hearted fun Ok, 'nuff 'o this out of topic posting though...

 

[Ulfwald]

I know it is all in fun, I just don't watch the simpsons. So I was just wondering about it. BTW any suggestions on the TROLL PATROL?

good luck on putting back together your mountain bike

 

[SlickWilly]

Actually, If I were to pick a way to mediate the bad trade stuff, I would have to say it should be in the hands of Anand. "IF" he were to appoint someone it would likely have to be full time. There is always a risk when selling/trading on-line. You just can't trust everyone. It's a chance you take that's entirely up to you. Myself for instance, I would not want the responsibility of monitoring this. It could get too messy for my tastes. I think the current Heatware rating is the best way, then each person can use their better judgement. My opinion on this should not even matter though, I don't even trade on-line. While most of you I would trust, you never know when you'll find that one nice person who's just plain irresponsible.

 

[Ulfwald]

ANand has enough to do with starting college and running this board, that is why I suggested that we have a volunteer board to help with this issue, I know that Roger already does a lot, but he is only one person. We need suggestions and ideas on this.

 

[Chucky]

Wonder, what will the mods do then?

 

[Ulfwald]

Mods will still have a lot to do in this. just that the TP will help to mediate, and track down the trolls.

 

[Chucky]

How to tell who is Troll and who is not Troll?

 

[Ulfwald]

Just the kind of reply I would expect from you red, and considering the fact that some of my relatives died in the NAZI death camps, well, I won't even go there, but lets just say that comment was way out of line. I am not suggesting a vigilante force, just some sort of organized group that would mediate and help to work through some of the deals gone bad. We can't expect Roger to handle all the issues here, plus, legal advise on what is able to be posted can not hurt here. Red, I asked for comments and ideas, all you have done is come in and insult as usual. Now I do not know why you are always in the mood to dump on people, but please if you don't have any thing constructive to add, then at least say it in an email, or in a pm. I do not want to get involved in a flame war so please tell me why this is such a bad idea. I am not saying we should be policing or babysitting the forums, jus an informal group of people that we can depend on to help, as well as protect the forums, and everyone involved.

chucky

We can't tell who is Troll and who is not. See above for an explanation. I am in no way condoning a vigilante group, and no one should be policing the boards. This would only be a group to help when needed, not watching all the time.


OK, judging from the response here, this is a bad idea. so let's just let it go off into the great cyberspace beyond.

 

[Ulfwald]

Like I said Red let's just drop it OK. like I said it appears to be a bad idea. And my intention is NOT to tell any one what to do, only to help when trades go sour. Plus, I would not get involved in it any way, I have enough to do with out taking on more. I was unaware of the "net" of individuals that help Roger, I thought only he handled everthing. Plus, why do you find it necessary to insult people, all I did was make a suggestion.

 

[Ulfwald]

You got PM RED,

 

[Ulfwald]

So I guess everyone who reports a thread that needs to be locked, a troll who returns under another nic, etc is considered a NARC? Why don't you go insult some of the people over there, maybe it will make you feel like more of a man. I tried to send you a private message and ask your advice, and you hurl another insult at me. Well, why don't we just agree to disagree. BTW, did you ever read the message I sent? It was not a flamer.

 

[Prodigy^]

don't listen to Red Dawn, he's turned into quite a pisshead lately....

 

[Pennstate]

Power-Mongering is a scary and annoying thing. You can almost sense it in this thread. RD is just a thought ahead of you guys.

 

[Ulfwald]

Red, true, you have a right to say what you feel, although I may not like it, I will defend your right to say it. Once again, I do NOT want to patrol the threads,or develop a thread patrol, that is for the mods.

All I was suggesting was a team of people who know what they are doing to help out with Sales and trades that have possibly gone bad, that's all. True, I may have alerted the mods about a something that is against Anandtechs rules, such as advocating drugs in a thread, but that is only because of the legal implications involved these days. Someone always wants to sue someone, and not accept responsibility for themselves. Only Paulson said that he would patrol the threads, but I tried to be polite about the way I told him that we don't need that.

Well, so far I have heard a couple of no's and some yes's

This is only an idea, please understand that.

 

[SlickWilly]

He is right though ulfwald (ugh I hate to say it..sounds like I'm trying to kiss an elite members ass so I can reach elite status myself..ack), but people really need to use their own judgement when they take the risk of trading on-line. Policing the trolls would be a complete waste of time we could better spend doing something we enjoy.

Red, you don't deserve that ELITE status. An idiot like you shouldn't be here now.

 

[apoppin]

Red Dawn, your analogy if flawed - especially with regard to your argument.

If I remember correctly, the "bunch of old ladies" WON. The wild west LOST.

First, the guns were checked in at the door, the saloons were closed, prohibition was even introduced and law and order came to town. Perhaps your verbal recidivism is destined to also fail - probably not with a whimper, however, in your case.