Triple stabbing and a secondary stabbing in Canada

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momeNt

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...ry-stabbings-bridgeland-c-train-platform.html

Three people are in hospital this morning while police investigate a triple stabbing at a C-Train platform....

One person is in serious condition, the other two are considered stable, says Calgary police Duty Insp. Keith Cain.
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About a half an hour later, police were flagged down by someone suffering an apparent stab wound on 17th Avenue S.E.
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No indication was given as to if the weapon used was banned per section 84 of the Canadian Criminal Code which reads as follows

(a) a knife that has a blade that opens automatically by gravity or centrifugal force or by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in or attached to the handle of the knife
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I'm unsure if train platforms and other modes of transportation are knife-free zones for any and all knives or just restricted knives.

There is an alarming rise of stabbings and specifically mass stabbings in Canada. Is there anything your brothers in the south may be able to teach you in terms of possible legislation?
 
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waggy said:
they need to ban all knives.
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knee-jerk respondents have no place here, we are talking about thoughtful legislation aimed at still protecting the rights of responsible knife-wielders but curbing knife abuse and senseless death.

Kindly leave and take your blanket bans with you back south.
 
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momeNt said:
There is an alarming rise of stabbings and specifically mass stabbings in Canada.
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I will be more informative than you:

Homicide rates in Canada rise 7% - Firearm deaths at lowest level in almost 50 years as killers favour the blade -- CBC - Dec 4, 2012

The number of homicides in Canada rose to 598 in 2011, 44 more than the previous year, marking the first increase in three years, according to data released today.

Statistics Canada reported Tuesday that the homicide rate has stayed "relatively stable over the past decade." Prior to that, it had been declining since the mid-1970s.

However, deaths related to firearms aren't nearly as common, the federal agency said.

"The rate of firearm homicides per 100,000 population has generally been declining since the mid-1970s and, in 2011, reached its lowest point in almost 50 years."

The Canadian murder weapon of choice is now the blade.

"An increase in stabbings accounted for virtually the entire increase in homicides in 2011," the federal data agency said.

It said there were 39 more stabbings in 2011 compared to 2010. Overall, stabbings accounted for 35 per cent of homicides, firearms for 27 per cent, beatings for 22 per cent and strangulation for seven per cent.

Overall, the homicide rate was 1.73 per 100,000 population in 2011, seven per cent higher than in 2010, Statistics Canada said.
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The US homicide rate in 2010 was 4.2 per 100,000 which poorly contrasts to Canada's 1.6 for that same year.

momeNt said:
Is there anything your brothers in the south may be able to teach you in terms of possible legislation?
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Teach us? Upon violence? Such as deregulation and social carelessness to help dramatically increase rates in Canada to match yours?

No, sorry, on this subject of critical crime we are in quite a bit healthier state, and therefore much prefer to divert away from the crime status attained in the USA.
 
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Whiskey16 said:
I will be more informative than you:

The US homicide rate in 2010 was 4.2 per 100,000 which poorly contrasts to Canada's 1.6 for that same year.

Teach us? Upon violence? Such as deregulation and social carelessness to help dramatically increase rates in Canada to match yours?

No, sorry, on this subject of critical crime we are in quite a bit healthier state, and therefore much prefer to divert away from the crime status attained in the USA.
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Be all that as it may, I don't see Canada trying as hard as the USA to pass effective knife control.
 
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Interesting failed attempt at a point since with four stabbings in the area, none died. Imagine if this person had a gun, perhaps 26 people would be dead.
 
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thraashman said:
Interesting failed attempt at a point since with four stabbings in the area, none died. Imagine if this person had a gun, perhaps 26 people would be dead.
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It's actually a lot easier to rush a shooter reloading than a knife-wielder. You'll end up on his blade.
 
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One person in serious condition, two in stable.

If only the perpetrator had had easy access to an assault rifle with 30 round mags. Then he would have killed these people, saving the Canadian healthcare system thousands.
 
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DominionSeraph said:
One person in serious condition, two in stable.

If only the perpetrator had had easy access to an assault rifle with 30 round mags. Then he would have killed these people, saving the Canadian healthcare system thousands.
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Interesting perspective. If everybody else on the station had an assault rifle as well with 30 round magazines, perhaps nothing would have happened.

Or if something did happen, they probably would have all ended up dead, but they were taking public transportation anyways, leeching on the productive members of society.
 
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I wonder if it was one of those highly deadly "assult knife" type or if it was the far less deadly normal wood handled hunting knife. They just need to ban those "assult knives", they're scary!
 
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Whiskey16 said:
I will be more informative than you:

The US homicide rate in 2010 was 4.2 per 100,000 which poorly contrasts to Canada's 1.6 for that same year.

Teach us? Upon violence? Such as deregulation and social carelessness to help dramatically increase rates in Canada to match yours?

No, sorry, on this subject of critical crime we are in quite a bit healthier state, and therefore much prefer to divert away from the crime status attained in the USA.
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Why does Canada have a 7% and rising homicide rate and the U.S. have a dropping rate? Could it be immigration in Canada?
 
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chucky2 said:
I wonder if it was one of those highly deadly "assult knife" type or if it was the far less deadly normal wood handled hunting knife. They just need to ban those "assult knives", they're scary!
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If Canada had a more free and open press we would already know the details of the knife. Instead it's kept buried and innocent Canadians continue to feel false protection by Section 84 of Canada's Criminal Code.
 
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chucky2

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momeNt said:
If Canada had a more free and open press we would already know the details of the knife. Instead it's kept buried and innocent Canadians continue to feel false protection by Section 84 of Canada's Criminal Code.
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Damn Conservative press! Stifling the publics need to know! Why aren't they running this with pictures of black machetes 24/7? My god?!?!!? Think of the children!!!
 
DominionSeraph

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momeNt said:
Interesting perspective. If everybody else on the station had an assault rifle as well with 30 round magazines, perhaps nothing would have happened.
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Thousands of stressed-out people made even more stressed because every stressed-out bozo around them has a gun? Sounds like an American inner city.

An armed society is a polite society. Those Canadians have a lot to learn from us.
 
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DominionSeraph said:
Thousands of stressed-out people made even more stressed because every stressed-out bozo around them has a gun? Sounds like an American inner city.

An armed society is a polite society. Those Canadians have a lot to learn from us.
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Please point me to the direction of the study you are using that finds higher levels of stress or anxiety in carriers?
 
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