Triple Crown, of sorts

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ARod on pace to win the triple crown, of sorts.

Most Runs scored, 134
Most RBI's, 142
Most HR's, 52

on pace to for a 150+ Runs, 150+ RBI and 50+ HR season.

not discounting the statistics of Roid athletes of recent years, ARod is having a historic type season.


even his BA at .308 is pretty good.
 

oddyager

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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Offensively, A-Rod is easily the best third baseman to ever play baseball.

He also could easily be the best shortstop to ever play baseball if he stayed there.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: oddyager
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Offensively, A-Rod is easily the best third baseman to ever play baseball.

He also could easily be the best shortstop to ever play baseball if he stayed there.

True enough. Now that you mention it, he'll probably finish his career as at least a top-five offensive player of all time. He's going to smash Bonds' record.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: oddyager
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Offensively, A-Rod is easily the best third baseman to ever play baseball.

He also could easily be the best shortstop to ever play baseball if he stayed there.

If he opts for free-agency after the year, he could be a shortstop next year.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: oddyager
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Offensively, A-Rod is easily the best third baseman to ever play baseball.

He also could easily be the best shortstop to ever play baseball if he stayed there.

If he opts for free-agency after the year, he could be a shortstop next year.

Even if he did go somewhere else I don't know why he would switch back.
He's evolved into an excellent third baseman.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: oddyager
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Offensively, A-Rod is easily the best third baseman to ever play baseball.

He also could easily be the best shortstop to ever play baseball if he stayed there.

If he opts for free-agency after the year, he could be a shortstop next year.

Even if he did go somewhere else I don't know why he would switch back.
He's evolved into an excellent third baseman.

To surpass Jeter again as the best shortstop in baseball.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: oddyager
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Offensively, A-Rod is easily the best third baseman to ever play baseball.

He also could easily be the best shortstop to ever play baseball if he stayed there.

If he opts for free-agency after the year, he could be a shortstop next year.

Even if he did go somewhere else I don't know why he would switch back.
He's evolved into an excellent third baseman.

To surpass Jeter again as the best shortstop in baseball.

Offensively he'd do that in a few days. Jeter is not a quarter of the hitter Arod is and it's crazy to try to compare their stats. Arod is not threatned by Jeter offensively. He is (Jeter), however, the most clutch player I've ever watched. He does not fail to get the big hit.
 

BeauJangles

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The reason he'd go back to SS is because his offense is more valuable there. Teams will be very, very interested in a guy who can play short who can also belt 57 dingers in a season.
 

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Is it practically a given that ARod will likely leave the Yankees next year? I know the NY fans treated him bad in the past, but (I assume) they have no choice but to love him this year. Perhaps that's enough for ARod to stay?
 

oddyager

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Originally posted by: isasir
Is it practically a given that ARod will likely leave the Yankees next year? I know the NY fans treated him bad in the past, but (I assume) they have no choice but to love him this year. Perhaps that's enough for ARod to stay?

Not if Boras has anything to say about it!
 

BeauJangles

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if A-Rod is concerned about money, he's outta there. He'll parlay this season into a huuuge contract with more years attached to it. That will protect him even if he declines. Opting out is all about the money for A-Rod, although he's pushing the limit of his own value at 30 million / yr
 

Capt Caveman

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I believe Yankee management has stated that if A-Rod elects for free-agency, they would not attempt to resign him b/c Boras is going to be asking for $30+ million a year. If A-Rod, elects free agency, NY also loses the contributions that Texas makes to subsidize his salary. I believe Texas pays something like $8 million a year.

It doesn't make sense that the Yankees wouldn't resign him, it's not like money is an issue.
 

isasir

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BTW, I really hope ARod never tests positive for steroids (well, not that he doesn't get caught, but that he didn't take them!) He should easily be able to set right any questionable records over the past few years.
 

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Originally posted by: isasir
Is it practically a given that ARod will likely leave the Yankees next year? I know the NY fans treated him bad in the past, but (I assume) they have no choice but to love him this year. Perhaps that's enough for ARod to stay?

It will have more to do with post season performance. Something he hasn't been able to do with the Yankees and something they expect. If he hits like he has been (4-for-41 (.098 batting average) with no RBI in his last 12 postseason games) Yankee fans most likely still won't treat his as a true Yankee. Real Yankees (Jeter) win, A Rod hasn't yet.

Edit: An Boras will get some to pay him 30+ million a year if he wants.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: isasir
BTW, I really hope ARod never tests positive for steroids (well, not that he doesn't get caught, but that he didn't take them!) He should easily be able to set right any questionable records over the past few years.

He doesn't look like he's juicing. He doesn't have a bulked-up body. He actually cut down on his muscle mass from last year to this year.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: isasir
BTW, I really hope ARod never tests positive for steroids (well, not that he doesn't get caught, but that he didn't take them!) He should easily be able to set right any questionable records over the past few years.

He doesn't look like he's juicing. He doesn't have a bulked-up body. He actually cut down on his muscle mass from last year to this year.

I agree it doesn't look like he's been juicing. His career numbers are very steady, with no sudden spikes.
 

Juno

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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: oddyager
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Offensively, A-Rod is easily the best third baseman to ever play baseball.

He also could easily be the best shortstop to ever play baseball if he stayed there.

True enough. Now that you mention it, he'll probably finish his career as at least a top-five offensive player of all time. He's going to smash Bonds' record.

if he stays healthy.
 

Jschmuck2

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1.) Clutch is a fallacy

2.) Derek Jeter is no longer the best SS in baseball. He is old and is losing range by the day.

3.) The Yankees have said publicly that they will not pursue A-rod if he opts out - I don't buy it though. They need him - particularly if he can put up bananas numbers like he did this year.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
1.) Clutch is a fallacy

2.) Derek Jeter is no longer the best SS in baseball. He is old and is losing range by the day.

3.) The Yankees have said publicly that they will not pursue A-rod if he opts out - I don't buy it though. They need him - particularly if he can put up bananas numbers like he did this year.

I don't know where 1 came from. "clutch" is certainly a reality. Look at a guy like JD Drew. He puts up fabulous numbers in meaningless games and situations. The minute he has RISP with the game on the line, his numbers plummet. They're miserable.

A-Rod has been somewhat similar. Up until this season he really wasn't pulling through with big hits when they were needed.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
1.) Clutch is a fallacy

It most certainly isn't.
I've watched Jeter since his first game, the guy gets big hits in timely situations ALL THE TIME. Arod hasn't done that with the Yankees until this year.

2.) Derek Jeter is no longer the best SS in baseball. He is old and is losing range by the day.

Best shortstop is a relative term. But I don't agree at all that he's losing range. I watched almost all the Yankee games this year. He makes jump throws from almost behind third base and goes very well to his left. I have no problems at all with his defensive play.

3.) The Yankees have said publicly that they will not pursue A-rod if he opts out - I don't buy it though. They need him - particularly if he can put up bananas numbers like he did this year.

They do not need him. The lineup is stacked enough to beat the crap out of teams even without him. Of course that doesn't mean they're not gonna go after him, but he is not vital.
 

Capt Caveman

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fwiw - Jeter has one of the worst fielding ranges for any short-stop and only has won golden gloves b/c of reputation and b/c A-Rod isn't playing shortstop.
 

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Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
1.) Clutch is a fallacy

2.) Derek Jeter is no longer the best SS in baseball. He is old and is losing range by the day.

3.) The Yankees have said publicly that they will not pursue A-rod if he opts out - I don't buy it though. They need him - particularly if he can put up bananas numbers like he did this year.

1.) To an extent it is. But some guys have a magic about them, always being up when the games on the line, and coming through more then not.

2.) He never was the best shortstop in baseball. He isn't losing that much range. He never had it to begin with. Sure he's great at going back on a pop up, but on ground balls he's one of hte worst in the league. He makes the jump through, because he gets a late break and can't get him self set for a normal through.

3.) The don't need him. They can get some one else if they have issues, but the kid the got from LA could fill in and put up decent numbers.