Tried to make coaster, couldn't do it!

Crimson

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I thought I would give Plextor's "Burnproof" technology a run for the money.. so I did a CD to CD copy, while I played a game of Q3F (Quake 3 Fortress).. I thought at least I might be able to get burnproof to kick in, and slow down the burn.. but no.. Not only was burnproof not needed, but it burned at the full 12x speed.. 6 minutes or so... This is of course with an all SCSI system, not sure if an EIDE burner could do that or not.. Pretty damn cool though.
 

Viperoni

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That's because SCSI ownz joO! :D
BTW: Does it tell you if it uses burn-proof? (I obviously dont have a burnproof drive, still chuggin along with my plex 4x SCSI burner :D)
 

Crimson

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Nero doesn't tell me specifically if it uses it, but when I had a config problem with my SCSI card, I would see it kick in by the high speed burn light going off and on... I just ran another test, I ran a CD to CD copy while running the Quake 3 timedemo.. same results, good burn at 12x!
 

Mule

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hmm, let me try that with my IDE 8x burner and Counter Strike. I got a 1.1 Ghz w/ 256 RAM, let you know how it worked.

UPDATE: Playing Counter Strike and CD burned at 8x without a hitch, BTW all my drives are on their own IDE bus with my Asus A7V.
 
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Doing a cd to cd burn on SCSI while playing a game is not going to kick in the burn proof. SCSI is not processor or memory dependant. SCSI can read/write to all the drives on the chain at the same time with no noticable performance hit.

Thats why SCSI rulz
 

ahfung

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I did that a few times with my burn-prone Creative IDE 4424 CDRW by playing much more CPU intensive games like Project: IGI and CM Rally 2. No coasters ;)

Now I've got a Lite-on IDE 121032 with burnproof. I'll try it later to see how much my all IDE system can handle.
 

erub

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uhh, I didnt know any SCSI drives came with burnproof. I thought it wasn't needed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that there are none (at least from Plextor) that are SCSI and are burnproof.
 

SUOrangeman

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I jusr ordered a 12x/10x/32x SCSI Plextor. I could have sworn that all Plex models (internal and external SCSI, internal ATAPI) at this speed had BurnProof.

-SUO
 

shawnmos

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If you want to make a coaster just pull the plug on the computer while it is burning, jeez! ;)
 

rlism

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I've got a Plextor 12/10/32S.

I DID manage to run the buffer down to zero in an all scsi system: opened 4 DIVX movies and turned on the plugin for winamp. It still burned the cd just fine. Pretty kewl stuff... burnproof.
 

Crimson

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shawnmos - I did as you suggested, and pulled the power plug.. it STILL burned the CD!!! ;)
 

ahfung

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Correct me if I'm wrong. Doesn't Plextor announced that they won't supply SCSI burners with burnproof this year?
 

nateholtrop

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i have an IDE plexotr the 12/10/32 sadly i have made 2 coasters....napster cs and a few instant messengers...CS is what topped it off tho...

Nate
 

Soccerman

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Correct me if I'm wrong. Doesn't Plextor announced that they won't supply SCSI burners with burnproof this year?

not necessarily, I think it was a rumor gone mad.

it's not impossible to 'beat' burnproof.. you 'could' pull the plug, as mentioned before, but another way would be to hit CTRL+ALT+DELETE and shut down the program, or shut down the computer :-0

when playing a game while burning, you're not going to burn a coaster (at least you shouldn't, unless something goes wrong besides having a low buffer, which is all that burnproof solves) that easily, with both SCSI and IDE. the difference between the two is how quickly it gets done (SCSI tends to use less CPU time), and also how choppy the game will be (again, assuming you see any difference at all, the game should tend to favour SCSI).

this is, assuming that your computer is slow enough to show the differences in CPU utilization for SCSI and IDE..
 

Syborg1211

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Another way to make a coaster, is to shake the drive while burning!

I think as someone already said that it depends on your cpu more-so too. Of course a game will mess things up if you have some slow cpu, but with something over say even 550 mhz you won't be able to make a coaster very easily.
 

littleprince

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try this one guys. I've done it by accident on my burner a couple times.
while doing a cd to cd copy, hit the eject button on your other cd drive.
crap, that brought my buffer to 0 pretty darn quick....
 

Napalm

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shawnmos - I did as you suggested, and pulled the power plug.. it STILL burned the CD!!!

Yeah right. If you pulled the power plug, the burner would stop working due to the lack of electricity current flowing to the drive and making it burn. If the electricity stopped, the burner would then seese to work and stop spinning - in effect failing to burn the cd correctly and not making a good copy (i.e., a toaster). You made a toaster, tell the truth - tell it!

Cheerio,
Napalm

PS. My head hurts...
 

Crimson

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Yeah it was a joke.. When I did the timedemo in Quake 3, I only lost approx 1.1 fps while burning a CD... obviously very little cpu usage taking place.
 

Adul

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Try something that will peg you CPU at max for a extended period of time. Also try transfering a 1gb of data from your hard drives to say a drive on the network.