Trent Green carried off field in a stretcher..again

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: xboxist

Originally posted by: BigJ
Trent Green is a piece of shit.

That's a career-ending type block right there. It may be legal, but it's something you just don't do. Take him out at above or below the knee, don't cut his knees..

So a career-ending type of block is legal. Who's goddamn fault is that?

Travis should be beaten in his fat belly with a lead pipe for his elementary behavior.

1) The NFL

Trent Green may be the reason why they may change the rules now. You DON'T cut someones knees like that. Listen to the sports guys on the radio or ESPN who are former NFL players. It's a taboo. I can guarantee you that if Trent Green had been fine and stayed in the game, he was going to get his ass beat. Not only by Johnson, but the rest of the Texans. You don't hit the knees. Taking out the legs is fine, not knees.

Travis is classless, but being an asshole doesn't ruin a person's career. Taking cheapshots at a person's knees does.

And you want to talk about legal plays that are still cheap shots? Say hello to Warren Sapp. I called him a piece of shit too.

 

[torpid]

I like the part where Travis says he'd have preferred to be hit in the head because he wouldn't want the hit to affect his family.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: torpid
I like the part where Travis says he'd have preferred to be hit in the head because he wouldn't want the hit to affect his family.

Judging by the way he talks, not much damage can really be dealt to his head anyways.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: torpid
I like the part where Travis says he'd have preferred to be hit in the head because he wouldn't want the hit to affect his family.

Judging by the way he talks, not much damage can really be dealt to his head anyways.

and he probably didn't see the irony of saying he'd rather be hit in the head, considering what happened to green.

 

[Deeko]

It was a legal block, even if dangerous. Trent Green is a QB, he doesn't know how to block, and if he'd blocked him straight-up it wouldn't have made a difference. This Johnson character is a moron, you don't mock someone who is knocked out cold on the field, and when you're making somewhere in the range of hundreds of thousands to millions per year, you aren't allowed to complain about how worried you are of your ability to "eat".

 

[Syringer]

Miami Dolphins quarterback Trent Green was knocked unconscious with a grade-three concussion -- the most severe -- and he'll undergo further tests on the career-threatening injury to determine his future.

Jeez..

 

[Syringer]

I think this has to be the best line from Travis though..

He's like the scarecrow. He wants to get courage while I wasn't looking

Is this irony at its finest here? Scarecrow, no brain, eh eh? Simply awesome.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Deeko
It was a legal block, even if dangerous. Trent Green is a QB, he doesn't know how to block, and if he'd blocked him straight-up it wouldn't have made a difference. This Johnson character is a moron, you don't mock someone who is knocked out cold on the field, and when you're making somewhere in the range of hundreds of thousands to millions per year, you aren't allowed to complain about how worried you are of your ability to "eat".

yeah, a quarterback, who also doesn't want to be blocked at the knees, doesn't know not to block at the knees. right.

johnson probably didn't know dude was out cold on the field when he was kneeling on the field in a tremendous amount of pain. yes, he shouldn't have opened his mouth after the game, but i cannot blame him for what his reaction on the field.

 

[Deeko]

Quarterbacks don't get blocked. Regardless, just because you don't like getting hit in the knees doesn't mean he knows proper blocking technique. By the way, how do you propose a 200 pound QB block a 300 pound lineman? it was a LEGAL HIT.

Kneeling on the field in a tremendous amount of pain?? Are you blind? He was STANDING OVER TRENT GREEN'S UNCONSCIOUS BODY, POINTING AND PRESUMABLY YELLING. And then, after that, he had the audacity to make the comments after the game.

If what Green did was so horrible, it would be illegal. Johnson is joke.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

yeah, a quarterback, who also doesn't want to be blocked at the knees, doesn't know not to block at the knees. right.

johnson probably didn't know dude was out cold on the field when he was kneeling on the field in a tremendous amount of pain. yes, he shouldn't have opened his mouth after the game, but i cannot blame him for what his reaction on the field.

So, what happened in his little press conference? Do you excuse his complete idiocy when he doesn't even know the extent of the injury? At that point had he even seen a replay? How was he to know that Green had not been pushed from behind (like what supposedly caused the Bengals defensive player to slam his elbow into his helmet)? The on the field thing could be understood, he might not have known that Green was hurt and it was reactionary (although when he's not even moving and is laying face down on the field, you've got to think something was up). What he said afterward is what should get the guy in trouble.

 

[jonmcc33]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
I hope the NFL fines Johnson big. That's totally uncalled for.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsess...eo&confirm=true

Texans defensive tackle Travis Johnson hit Green in the head with his knee before Ginn was tackled by Anthony Weaver. After the play ended, Johnson stood over Green and taunted him, drawing a 15-yard penalty.

Johnson apologized to Houston coach Gary Kubiak during the game for the penalty. But Johnson was furious later, accusing Green of blocking him at the knees on purpose.

"The bottom line is, it was a malicious hit. It was uncalled for," Johnson said. "He's like the scarecrow. He wants to get courage while I wasn't looking, and hit me in my knee instead of trying to hit me in my head. God don't like ugly, you know what I mean?

"My knee ain't never hurt like it hurt today," Johnson said. "If you want to hit me, hit me in my head, hit me in my chest, don't hit me in my knee. I'm trying to eat just like everybody else. So, to hit me like that, that showed me what type of man he is."

I lean more on Travis Johnson's side. I've never been a fan of blocking below the waist like that. Trent Green ate a knee trying to do just that. Karma is a bitch.

You guys need to relax a little. Johnson didn't take the cheap shot. One was taken at him. You can't all go crying on a QB's shoulder pads all the time.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

hit = legal
reaction = justifiable
post game = idiotic

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Quarterbacks don't get blocked. Regardless, just because you don't like getting hit in the knees doesn't mean he knows proper blocking technique. By the way, how do you propose a 200 pound QB block a 300 pound lineman? it was a LEGAL HIT.

Kneeling on the field in a tremendous amount of pain?? Are you blind? He was STANDING OVER TRENT GREEN'S UNCONSCIOUS BODY, POINTING AND PRESUMABLY YELLING. And then, after that, he had the audacity to make the comments after the game.

If what Green did was so horrible, it would be illegal. Johnson is joke.

Deeko you are being ridiculous. It was only a legal hit because of the circumstances with it falling into that grey area of the NFL rule book of what is a chop block/clipping, the block itself was still DIRTY!

Look at it like this, he fucking THREW himself at Jackson's lower body to try and stop him, you can't make some stupid comparions of 'Oh yeah, if it was so dirty there would be a rule for that'. HORSESHIT! You can't make that distinction, the rules are written on specifics and general ideas of right/wrong, fair/unfair, and what is dangerous/safe. Yes, it was a great personal risk on Green's part, and he was obviously just trying to make a block for Ginn, but it doesn't EXCUSE the action. I don't think Green meant to go for his knees, but that is of no consequence, he still went low and as a QB he should know better then to take out somebody like that.

I feel for Green and hope he can make it back to the NFL, but I lost some major respect for him. Jackson I could care less about, I'm just telling you he has a legitimate beef and you're being short-sighted about him taunting and going after a guy who could've ruined his career. I would go as far as to say it's poetic justice for him to be on the verge of not playing again while Jackson remains fine. I agree he should have been more subdued during the press conferences since he still had 3/4 of the game to play and put it out of his mind after it happened, but given the severity it could have caused I just can't blame him too much. And yeah I know he DIDN'T get hurt, but take a good look at the hit again and watch him go flying, then come back and tell me it was a clean hit.

 

[91TTZ]

Concussions aren't like other injuries where they heal and go away for good, concussions mount up. If you had 1 concussion, your chances of getting another are much greater now. Now with two big concussions like this, he should consider retiring or else he may get permanent brain damage.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Anyone saying Green's concussion is justice for a cheap shot are as bad as Johnson is. Oh, that was a potentially career-ending injury? A blow to the head can be life threatening. Even then, I think its a stretch to call the shot to the knee career-ending. As anyone who's paid attention to the NFL the last few years knows, there has been some pretty big advances in knee surgery/rehabilitation. The fact that despite that you'd try to make light of concussions is just plain heinous.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Anyone saying Green's concussion is justice for a cheap shot are as bad as Johnson is. Oh, that was a potentially career-ending injury? A blow to the head can be life threatening. Even then, I think its a stretch to call the shot to the knee career-ending. As anyone who's paid attention to the NFL the last few years knows, there has been some pretty big advances in knee surgery/rehabilitation. The fact that despite that you'd try to make light of concussions is just plain heinous.

1) He didn't mean to concuss him.
2) He probably didn't know he even had a concussion at first.
3) He didn't initiate the contact that ended with Green getting another concussion.

Trent Green is responsible for his own actions here. He made the choice to sacrifice his body for a low block, something his coaches most likely drilled into his head not to do since high school. No, it's not justice, but the punishment is well-known for laying your body out like that, he made it happen and could have stopped himself at anytime before throwing that block, he suffers the consequences.

 

[Deeko]

Yea, no one is saying its Johnsons' fault he got hurt. But I'm sorry, you don't taunt someone who is unconscious (especially in this year's NFL where there have been potentially life-threatening injuries already), and you certainly don't defend that taunting after the game.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
hit = legal
reaction = justifiable
post game = idiotic

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
hit = legal
reaction = justifiable
post game = idiotic

exactly how i feel.