travelers to the US have to give 48 hour notification

[Comanche]

I am just wondering about the logic of this. Why in the world would we require people traveling to the US to tell us they are coming 48 hours in advance when we won't close the border between here and Mexico. Seems kind of foolish don't you think?

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/f49040...82f5-0000779fd2ac.html

 

[yllus]

Just because you can't do something about problem A doesn't mean you shouldn't do jack about problem B.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: yllus
Just because you can't do something about problem A doesn't mean you shouldn't do jack about problem B.

Sure, but what problem are we solving here? Am I the only person who thinks we should spend a little more time answering that question?

 

[dahunan]

So we can check our wiretap database first

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Comanche
I am just wondering about the logic of this. Why in the world would we require people traveling to the US to tell us they are coming 48 hours in advance when we won't close the border between here and Mexico. Seems kind of foolish don't you think?

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/f49040...82f5-0000779fd2ac.html

One has totally nothing to do with the other..

 

[Comanche]

Yes one does have something to do with the other.

People who are coming to this country legally now have to give notice 48 hours in advance so that we can screen who is coming into the country.

That about says it all.

 

[Jaskalas]

It might be a bit embarrassing if, say, Osama flew into the country legally.

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
It might be a bit embarrassing if, say, Osama flew into the country legally.

What makes you think he would actually do this?

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
It might be a bit embarrassing if, say, Osama flew into the country legally.

What makes you think he would actually do this?

I'm saying anyone can easily get in.

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
It might be a bit embarrassing if, say, Osama flew into the country legally.

What makes you think he would actually do this?

I'm saying anyone can easily get in.

Doesn't the Dept of Homeland Security keep track of known terrorists, so they would be flagged once they get on a plane?

 

[Comanche]

I originally read that as Obama. Ha Ha.

What do you think the chances that Osama flying into this country illegally are.

Here is the question. If you want to control the flow of illegal or devious people into the country, what do you do? In my mind you go after the weakest link and build from there.

Think about this. How many people come to this country every day just to visit. How many of those people have never had a criminal conviction. How many people that want to come to this country to do damage have a criminal conviction.

It just doesn't make sense to me. It almost sounds like job security.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Comanche
I am just wondering about the logic of this. Why in the world would we require people traveling to the US to tell us they are coming 48 hours in advance when we won't close the border between here and Mexico. Seems kind of foolish don't you think?

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/f49040...82f5-0000779fd2ac.html

closing the broders between here and Mexico have nothing to do with the topic..read the article...where does it talk about closing the borders between here and Mexico??

 

[Comanche]

It says absolutely nothing about closing the borders. I agree with you one hundred percent.

 

[Wheezer]

Originally posted by: Comanche
Yes one does have something to do with the other.

People who are coming to this country legally now have to give notice 48 hours in advance so that we can screen who is coming into the country.

That about says it all.

so then, according to your logic...there are thousands of people driving everyday illegally, they lost their license, too many DUI's, never had it in the first place...so then it is kind of pointless for the rest of us to be required to have one, right?

 

[Comanche]

What is the point of trying to screen people who are coming to this country legally when we don't try to stop those who are coming illegally?

To the Mexicans and deviants who are coming across the border illegally we are saying "come right ahead. We might even give you citizenship." To the people who want to come and visit, we are making it harder and harder for them to come to this country.

I think we have our priorities backward.

 

[Comanche]

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Originally posted by: Comanche
Yes one does have something to do with the other.

People who are coming to this country legally now have to give notice 48 hours in advance so that we can screen who is coming into the country.

That about says it all.

so then, according to your logic...there are thousands of people driving everyday illegally, they lost their license, too many DUI's, never had it in the first place...so then it is kind of pointless for the rest of us to be required to have one, right?

Continueing with that logic, it is like saying that since you have a license and have been driving well for the past upteen years, we are going to require that you provide proof, before driving your car, that you got your license legally.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
It might be a bit embarrassing if, say, Osama flew into the country legally.

What makes you think he would actually do this?

I'm saying anyone can easily get in.

Doesn't the Dept of Homeland Security keep track of known terrorists, so they would be flagged once they get on a plane?

Ask the average citizen who got flagged for having TB and very easily got back into this country. Seems we only knew about it afterwards, maybe if we had a 48 hour window to so much as identify people it wouldn?t be so easy.

 

[Comanche]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
It might be a bit embarrassing if, say, Osama flew into the country legally.

What makes you think he would actually do this?

I'm saying anyone can easily get in.

Doesn't the Dept of Homeland Security keep track of known terrorists, so they would be flagged once they get on a plane?

Ask the average citizen who got flagged for having TB and very easily got back into this country. Seems we only knew about it afterwards, maybe if we had a 48 hour window to so much as identify people it wouldn?t be so easy.

You give the powers that be at the airports a lot more credit than they are due

 

[TheNewbie]

The problem here are all the immigrants in europe. U.S doesn't have a problem with a native european i.e. German, Dutch etc. to come visit the U.S, since he will most likely visit and leave, and won't be causing any terror threats. The main concern is with many of the "new" europeans. Europe is now full with arabs, hell the most common name in england now is Muhammad, these people present a somewhat bigger of a problems in terms of immigration issues, as well as being a terror threat (obviously NOT most of them). That is why the govt. is trying to get enough time to either determine if you can come here with no problems, or otherwise be prepared to watch over you when you're here.

 

[CyberDuck]

As a European, my feeling, and I know many who share this oppinion, is that it's no longer worth it to go to the U.S. There is already to much control going into the U.S., and many people are put of by it. This will only add to the burden for normal travellers on vacation or business trip, so the chance of not taking the trip at all increase even more. I will come back to the U.S. once a more sensible government and policy is in place. For now there's a lot to see in the rest of the world.

 

[SilthDraeth]

This is reason enough...

Terrorist Detained

 

[TheNewbie]

Originally posted by: CyberDuck
As a European, my feeling, and I know many who share this oppinion, is that it's no longer worth it to go to the U.S. There is already to much control going into the U.S., and many people are put of by it. This will only add to the burden for normal travellers on vacation or business trip, so the chance of not taking the trip at all increase even more. I will come back to the U.S. once a more sensible government and policy is in place. For now there's a lot to see in the rest of the world.

Sure you'll have a blast visiting all the 3rd world countries, 'cause all western countries are getting tougher to enter.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Comanche
I am just wondering about the logic of this. Why in the world would we require people traveling to the US to tell us they are coming 48 hours in advance when we won't close the border between here and Mexico. Seems kind of foolish don't you think?

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/f49040...82f5-0000779fd2ac.html

It is just one of those things our corrupt politicians have setup.
Republicans want the cheap labor
Democrats want the cheap vote.

We make it hard for working, well educated, and smart people to come to our country. Yet make it difficult for the uneducated to walk across into our lands.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
It might be a bit embarrassing if, say, Osama flew into the country legally.

What makes you think he would actually do this?

I'm saying anyone can easily get in.

My guess is he will walk into California or Texas well before he attempts to fly.

Just imagine this scenario. Small nuke detonated in dallas, next day we have OBL near the location giving a speech.

With our pathetic border situation that slap in the face could be a reality.

 

[palehorse]

My question is this: Beyond being a bit inconvienent, what's the big deal? what negative impact does this new policy have on anything?

I like this idea... a lot! :thumbsup: