Trashcan storage

[vbuggy]

So with the release of the Trashcan, finally able to look to throw out the iMacs over the course of the next year or so and replace it with a hopefully somewhat better system - which is in all honesty not hard. Though sure, its not exactly what I was expecting - it's not that the 'housewife's idea of workstation' that was the outgoing Mac Pro was that great, and this is definitely even more homemaker-friendly.

At the same time with the switch-out though, looking for proper local storage. Thunderbolt of course under the circumstances. 4 min, 6 max drive bays. QUIET so not the crappy Pegasus' which I already have and have been banished to the office.

Of course, it would be a lot easier and better if - and I know this is unthinkable, but hey - you had an enclosure you could put the drives and the system into and put it under the desk which would keep them and the system cool and also keep out a lot of the vibration / spinny noises. I know, it's radical. But I digress.

Hit me with your suggestions.

 

[Tegeril]

I'm looking for proper local storage for the Mac Pro. Thunderbolt of course under the circumstances. 4 min, 6 max drive bays. QUIET so not the crappy Pegasus' which I already have and have been banished to the office. If you can find an enclosure to house the system and the drives, that'd be best

Removed unrelated rambling.

http://www.drobo.com/products/professionals/drobo-5d/

 

[Mixolydian]

So with the release of the Trashcan, finally able to look to throw out the iMacs over the course of the next year or so

huh?

 

[Tegeril]

huh?

He uses Macs but hates himself for doing it or something.

 

[TheStu]

huh?

He's referring to the new Mac Pro, which has been oft compared to a trashcan. This particular poster seems physically incapable of talking about Apple without throwing in some snide comments. He even finds ways to bring them into tangentially related conversation, so that he may slag them once more.

Or, more succinctly, what Tegeril said.

 

[vbuggy]

Removed unrelated rambling.

http://www.drobo.com/products/professionals/drobo-5d/

Issue is that BeyondRAID removes the performance advantages of local storage. At least that was my experience with the Drobo Pro. Also if they're being measured at the same level, the 5D appears to be a tad noisier than the 'very quiet' (my ass... well, in a noisy office, maybe) Pegasus2.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Dual GB Ethernet + iSCSI (throw it in the basement, then it's silent) = ~200MB/Sec mass storage. If you need faster, I'd really like to know why.

It's just too bad you have to buy extra software to get iSCSI support in OS X. *scowl*

Otherwise though, you just need a FreeNAS box and a decent switch that will work with adapter teaming.

A NAS with HDDs and Dual NICs can be had for the cost of a bare thunderbolt enclosure, and is more flexible in a multi-computer environment anyway.

 

[vbuggy]

I'm sure some Apple fans would say 200MB/Sec was enough on the one hand when there aren't any decent solutions in this respect, then on the other hand mock Ultrabooks for having mSATA storage over what's in the rMBP.

But yeah, not what I'm looking for - I already have servers. I also already know how compromised OS X is in addressing network storage that isn't specifically tailored to it. And even if it could sustain 200Mb/sec - still not interested. I could just get a USB3 array of disks to do that. Thunderbolt DAS please.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Thunderbolt DAS please.

Knock yourself out.

 

[vbuggy]

Knock yourself out.

It's not that I'm Google handicapped. Or not more real-life experienced than most. I did put down what I need - which is a minimum 4-drive arrangement to run as an array. And if I don't know and have to ask, it's either a totally trivial question which I've never bothered to look into, or one that isn't easily answered by those who don't have plenty of hands-on experience. This is very much the latter.

And in fact - so that you don't mislead anyone who might ask a 'quiet desktop single drive for Thunderbolt?' question in the future - those Lacie cases have fairly crappy vibration damping, causing resonance issues when on a desk.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

It's not that I'm Google handicapped. Or not more real-life experienced than most. I did put down what I need - which is a minimum 4-drive arrangement to run as an array.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816102185

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Cheaper:

https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/Thunderbolt/External-Drive/OWC/ThunderBay-IV

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Ooh.

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Areca/ARC8050/

Although at that point, it'd be cheaper to daisy-chain a couple 4-bay units.

 

[vbuggy]

Don't need 8-bay, but hell, if it's quiet I'll go for it. I can't see any acoustics figures on the site.

The Caldigit T3 is almost a contender as well but it's only a three-bay. External PSU design means it's only got the one fan though, but again - how it suppresses drive noise (or not) remains to be seen.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816102185

As I put in the OP, I already have the Pegasus arrays. Noisy as heck.

Cheaper:

https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/Thunderbolt/External-Drive/OWC/ThunderBay-IV

No figures again, hard to tell.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

If typical 7200 rpm HDDs are too loud by themselves, I think you're effed.