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Transferring Files Over Home Network.. ONE FINAL QUESTION

Gamingphreek

Gamingphreek

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My family has a home network set up with standard RJ-45 (Cat-5A) cable. All of the computers are running XP Professional. I want to transfer my shows from the HTPC to my PC however it simply wont let me. Either it says the path is invalid (Which it isn't), or it will copy the icon, and then simply sit there as i watch the progress meter do nothing but the little file transferring animation.

I accessed the HTPC via the Administrator account/password. I have full permissions to the Shared Folder ("Shows") in which all of those shows are.

Additionally i have tried streaming this across the network, (playing from the HTPC but displaying on mine), but then it will either sit there and connect forever, or it will say that the location or file is unavailable or invalid.

What is going on here. I figured this was more a networking problem so i posted here instead of the OS forum.

-Kevin
 
Well i didn't do anything but i know it actually works now. However the problem lies with my network. I dont have a clue what is wrong. THe most network utilization i get is 3% and that is very rare. Most of the time it is .18 or so. Even on the internet just opening the homepage i only see a .52%. What happened to the other 99%. It seems that streaming a 1gig file across the network would take more than a mere .18% (obviously it does because about every 30 secs the picture will move briefly and sound will come on).

What do you guys think is going on here.

I am using my Nvidia LAn on my Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe board with Nforce Drivers. I could switch to my Marvell Gigabit Lan Port, however earlier i had problems with that simply dropping the connection sporadically.

-Kevin
 
What is the network topology look like? Are you using a switch, hub, network card speed settings (100FD)?

 
We have the basic Cable modem down in my fathers workroom. That is connected to a IIRC Netgear Router which in turn connects to all of our PC's via standard RJ45 cable.

-Kevin
 
check your cabling and speed/duplex.

If this is homemade cable that is generally the cause of poor performance. Also leaving the network cards to auto-detect speed/duplex usually ensures both sides of the link (nic and switch) agree on their speed/duplex settings.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
check your cabling and speed/duplex.

If this is homemade cable that is generally the cause of poor performance. Also leaving the network cards to auto-detect speed/duplex usually ensures both sides of the link (nic and switch) agree on their speed/duplex settings.
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I would force all devices off the router to be hard set at 100 Full Duplex.
 
Originally posted by: TGS
Originally posted by: spidey07
check your cabling and speed/duplex.

If this is homemade cable that is generally the cause of poor performance. Also leaving the network cards to auto-detect speed/duplex usually ensures both sides of the link (nic and switch) agree on their speed/duplex settings.
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I would force all devices off the router to be hard set at 100 Full Duplex.
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as long as you don't leave the NICs to auto that would work as well.
 
Well the cable is homemade.. crimped and all.

I believe both my fathers and my computer are set at Force 100 Full Duplex settings. I didn't know the router itself would have to be set that way as well.

-Kevin
 
Typically home routers should have leds for 100FD settings on the box. Though just for kicks if you can test out the cable. I've made my fair share of cables that turned out to be split somewhere along the line.
 
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
How do i test the cables. Is there a website that will do that or a program i can download and run.

-Kevin
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You can buy a tester to check pin out. What I'm guessing is the ends were just crimped on without paying attention to the pin-out.

Best to get a set of keystone jacks, follow the color labels and re-punch. I can pretty much guarantee your problem lays with the cable because what you desribe is a cabling problem.

search for "568b pin out" and make sure both ends are pinned that way.
 
No we did not just crimp the ends. Were not stupid 😉

We did follow the pin-out according to the specifications. Both ends are correct. Although i am 100% positive they are, wouldn't connection not work at all if we didn't correctly match up with wires before crimping?

-Kevin
 
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
No we did not just crimp the ends. Were not stupid 😉

We did follow the pin-out according to the specifications. Both ends are correct. Although i am 100% positive they are, wouldn't connection not work at all if we didn't correctly match up with wires before crimping?

-Kevin
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not really. You'd just get pitiful performance. Its actually pretty difficult to get a cable to pass cat5 spec by crimping the ends on yourself. You have to be pretty experienced to do so and even then lots of them still won't pass.

Sure, loads of people will disagree with me. But having access to a cable scanner shows that most crimp jobs, even by seasoned pros, won't pass CAT5 spec. In fact most network guys that have been in the industry for many a year will simply refuse hand crimped cables. Last 10 years of my career they have been strictly outlawed (in writing) - not just by me, but by all who are responsible for the performance of a network.
 
Well we are running about 50ft of cable from his workroom to my bedroom alone. Not to mention we have 4 other rooms wired up. Should we invest in some that are already made?

-Kevin
 
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Well we are running about 50ft of cable from his workroom to my bedroom alone. Not to mention we have 4 other rooms wired up. Should we invest in some that are already made?

-Kevin
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nah, just get some keystone jacks and re-punch.

for grins to really see if it is a cabling problem take two machines...move them to where the router/switch is and plug into switch with store bought patch cables. See what happens performance wise - eliminate the suspect.

The only other thing I can think of is if you have IP addresses on different networks and somehow, someway you are having to route through your ISP to get to your internal PCs. This shouldn't be the case if you have a router though and are using "internal" addresses like 192.168., 172.16-31. or 10.
 
Well well well. I dont know what i did or what anyone did but it is definitely working.

To copy the files from one disk to mine across the network i hit copy, and then paste on my desktop. However my dad said to just drag it from one place to another and it suddenly works. Not only that but the cabling seems to be very nicely done (by us 🙂) because i am sitting at a very nice 76% average network usage when transferring the file. If we used a proper cable do you think i would hit 100%, or is that pretty near impossible as that is its theoretical maximum.

-Kevin

-Kevin
 
While im in this thread... could you answer one final question.

Does either of the LAN ports on the Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe board have an onboard NIC Processor. I am looking to do a tweak to offload all network tasks to that processor but am unaware as to whether or not i have one.

-Kevin
 
I'm not sure about an onboard NIC with a tcp/ip offload processor. At only 100Mbps most any machine should be able to deal with the cpu utilization without any problem. I'm sure you could find an expensive intel or 3com nic with some sort of offloading processor but realistically I don't think it will make much difference in a home environment...

Check your motherboard's manual. If it has one, your drivers should already be using it...

Gaidin
 
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