Trans people being denied passports in US

mikeymikec

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Looking at this in the most benign way possible, with this policy conservatives are proclaiming that they are so thin-skinned that they want to deny citizens basic rights because they think a single field in a database ought to be filled out in such-and-such way. It's beyond pathetic.

However I'm really wondering whether denying LGBTQ+ people access to Internet-accessible devices will come before shutting down their ability to travel inside the US.
 

Pens1566

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Yep, any application with "X" is being rejected. And, any existing passport with "X" is being considered invalid for use as well.
 

nakedfrog

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Looking at this in the most benign way possible, with this policy conservatives are proclaiming that they are so thin-skinned that they want to deny citizens basic rights because they think a single field in a database ought to be filled out in such-and-such way. It's beyond pathetic.

However I'm really wondering whether denying LGBTQ+ people access to Internet-accessible devices will come before shutting down their ability to travel inside the US.
This after a 6 year long legal fight to get X approved in the first place. This is not something that was given to us by Biden, the State Department was ordered to reconsider their decision to reject an X application.
Yep, any application with "X" is being rejected. And, any existing passport with "X" is being considered invalid for use as well.
All reliable information I have indicates that the latter is not true, only that rumors are being spread to that effect.
 

FelixDeCat

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You knew there were only two genders, right?

Why do I have to explain everything? Just call it a typo. 😉
 

Pens1566

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This after a 6 year long legal fight to get X approved in the first place. This is not something that was given to us by Biden, the State Department was ordered to reconsider their decision to reject an X application.

All reliable information I have indicates that the latter is not true, only that rumors are being spread to that effect.

My info is direct from a former colleague that now works on some of the systems used by customs. They're a SME in that space w/15+yrs.

Anyone with the X is being flagged in the db and any attempted scans/entries will be triggering a denial. It's an ongoing process as not everything is updated on the same cycle. DoS approvals were first, not sure if GE and CBP are fully rolled out yet.
 
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nakedfrog

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My info is direct from a former colleague that now works on some of the systems used by customs. They're a SME in that space w/15+yrs.

Anyone with the X is being flagged in the db and any attempted scans/entries will be triggering a denial. It's an ongoing process as not everything is updated on the same cycle. DoS approvals were first, not sure if GE and CBP are fully rolled out yet.
One of my sources is a response from CBP. Presumably if someone with an X is denied, we'll see the information make the rounds. It's possible things have changed in the 2-4 days since I got my info. I don't really want to make the 3 hour drive to test it out myself, maybe if I had another motivation... there was a nice deal on a used keytar in Vancouver but it's already been snatched up :p
 

Pens1566

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One of my sources is a response from CBP. Presumably if someone with an X is denied, we'll see the information make the rounds. It's possible things have changed in the 2-4 days since I got my info. I don't really want to make the 3 hour drive to test it out myself, maybe if I had another motivation... there was a nice deal on a used keytar in Vancouver but it's already been snatched up :p

I think there is/was some thought of "how many possible instances of approved transgender individuals would be attempting to re-enter?" and the risk matrix calculation came out as "not enough to stop us from doing it". The # of passport/GE applications would be quite a bit higher.
 

nakedfrog

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Remember, you a wrestling with a pig.
Sometimes you just gotta punch the clown :p


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FelixDeCat

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You're such a shithead. Are you like this in real life? Do you get fulfillment from being a shithead to others?
What kind of clowny response is this, fuckstick?
Providing clarity in these confusing times should not get you guys up in arms.

Sure, there are male and female frogs. The irony is they are a species who can biologically switch genders based on environmental factors. 🐸

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nakedfrog

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-LOL sweet summer child Conservatives want that guy in front of a firing squad.

They'll settle for "lost the battle with his demons" if they have to, saves them the cost of bullets.
They won't say "his" demons, and they're generally more tolerant of trans men because they're just confused women* who in many cases can still be fucked, so they have value. But you're talking to someone that's literally written protest songs on the subject, I know what they want.

*duped by woke trans ideology, because women have no ideas that aren't put there by men
 
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