tracking the hack back to China

[bwanaaa]

Why isnt the evidence presented? I would like to know how Google tracked the hack back to Taiwan and from there to China. I would like to know the particulars. Time and again it has been shown that the intelligence of the net exceeds anything the 'experts' possess. That is the foundation of the open source movement. Why isnt that intelligence being put to good use? (but that is another thread entirely) I am interested in knowing the particulars of the forensics. Is this posted anywhere?

 

[Juncar]

I doubt you'll ever see those evidence. Same as those WMD they kept yammering about in Iraq, its all politics. You and I will never see anything unless you happened to be on the inside.

 

[Sahakiel]

Every time you publicize how you track down criminals, you tell them exactly how to avoid being tracked the next time.

 

[bwanaaa]

Every time you publicize how you track down criminals, you tell them exactly how to avoid being tracked the next time.

I'll settle for evidence of the in trusion. Consider this crazy far out alternative hypothesis:

1) Google needs content. Content is what drives clicks - and they are the masters at deriving profits from clicks. The censoring of Tianamen plus other juicy human rights issues limits the traffic that Google can drum up. Google needs growth to maintain its crazy stock price valuation.

2)How can Google get to use this censored content? How can Google find an excuse to drop the censorship-easy- claim they have been 'wronged' and position their action as a response. This way Google maintains the moral high ground AND opens up traffic.

Without any proof either way, we are victims of smoke blowers.

Aside from the particulars of this case, consider the following analogy- suppose you come across this intelligent population that has until now not seen the internet. The world is intensely curious about this new tribe living on an isolated island that has learned to do things without technology and whose members live to be 200 years old. (For argument's sake, let's call these people the Na'Vi). Google wants to put these people on the net so that the world's insatiatiable curiosity can be quenched (and google can derive billions of clicks on their ads in the process). Should Google be allowed to invade the space of the Na'Vi?

 

[bwanaaa]

maybe i am not so crazy

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/0...eakens-That-China-Did-the-Recent-Cyberattacks

 

[Brian Stirling]

As has been mentioned it would be foolish for Google to detail the steps taken to track down the intrusion and thus provide another tool to those wishing to do harm to avoid being detected. So, without such detail it's a he said she said thing. I for one have little doubt that China has and is engaging in cyber attacks to gain intelligence on those they: hate, distrust, or want there IP.

In fairness to China I should point out that this kind of thing has been going on long before the internet and by ALL nations with the ability to do so. When I say all I mean absolutely all ... ie, no exceptions! What is perhaps different here is the use of this spying to go after lesser threats like dissidents...


Brian

 

[irsei]

i agree with those folks who are saying that it is in google's best interest to not tell anyone how they found out.

it's not just for security, but it gives those parties responsible time to concoct a cover-up, or to prove why google's tracking methodology is flawed.

if google needs to prove something in the future, they need to be able to surprise the offending party with their evidence.

or google could have been planning on backing out of china, and this situation provided them with a way to make a big scene out of it.
from that perspective, it's in google's best interest to make things a big mystery and to draw it out as long as possible.
otherwise, they just quietly withdraw from china and bob's your uncle.