[TR] Win10 now a "recommended" update for Win7, 8.1.

Elixer

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Yeah...they want everyone to have it, ain't they nice? ;)

What I don't get is, why limit it to win 7 or 8, why not XP & vista as well?
If they want market share, then tons of people are still running XP & vista.
 

Executioner

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I don't get it either. 10 has been out for over 6 months now, and those that wanted would have upgraded already. The ones that did not, either they did not like it or it broke something.
I'm sure those that have updates enabled for everything, they will be in for a surprise after a reboot. It will be either good or bad.
 

Red Squirrel

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Is there a quick and easy way to ensure this can't be installed? I'm afraid I'm going to start getting lot of phone calls about people who installed it and don't want it. May as well be proactive and try to get it disabled any time I see a computer. I'm thinking something as easy as just double clicking a script or something. I can just keep it on a USB stick.
 

mikeymikec

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Yeah...they want everyone to have it, ain't they nice? ;)

What I don't get is, why limit it to win 7 or 8, why not XP & vista as well?
If they want market share, then tons of people are still running XP & vista.

MS spent a good six months sending updates to Win7 to make it so that it could handle the Win10 update process.

Is there a quick and easy way to ensure this can't be installed? I'm afraid I'm going to start getting lot of phone calls about people who installed it and don't want it. May as well be proactive and try to get it disabled any time I see a computer. I'm thinking something as easy as just double clicking a script or something. I can just keep it on a USB stick.

One reg file:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\GWX]
"DisableGWX"=dword:00000001

NB: The forum seems to be adding a space in the word 'Windows'
 
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Newbian

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Yeah...they want everyone to have it, ain't they nice? ;)

What I don't get is, why limit it to win 7 or 8, why not XP & vista as well?
If they want market share, then tons of people are still running XP & vista.

The computers running those old os's will not be able to handle win 10 as their hardware is probably very outdated.

Not to mention allowing such old os's get a free upgrade means a lot less money for them especially when you can get some of them for very cheap thus everyone would buy them and get the free win 10.
 

redzo

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\GWX]
"DisableGWX"=dword:00000001
NB: The forum seems to be adding a space in the word 'Windows'
I eventually gave up and hidden its icon tray. No matter what I do, the little annoying app somehow manages to magically reappear after a while...
 

mikeymikec

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I eventually gave up and hidden its icon tray. No matter what I do, the little annoying app somehow manages to magically reappear after a while...

Well, I haven't seen the GWX icon once since applying that registry setting, nor is there anything Win10-ish in Control Panel > Windows Update.

Windows needs restarting after applying that setting btw.
 

Dahak

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MS spent a good six months sending updates to Win7 to make it so that it could handle the Win10 update process.



One reg file:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\GWX]
"DisableGWX"=dword:00000001

NB: The forum seems to be adding a space in the word 'Windows'

I would also add the following too
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]
"DisableOSUpgrade"=dword:00000001

Or if you do not like messing with the registry this tool seems to work

The GXW Control Panel from http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/
 

Charlie98

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In two cases, I just fresh installed W7 and left out specific updates (like the GWX one, and all of the 'ease of platform update' updates) and I don't have any problems. On my HTPC, which is a 2-year old OS install, I just uninstalled those specific updates and applied the GWX registry fix... no problems. Even so, certain updates continue to pop up every so often (like KB2952664) and I have to re-re-rehide them.
 
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Red Squirrel

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One reg file:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\GWX]
"DisableGWX"=dword:00000001

NB: The forum seems to be adding a space in the word 'Windows'

Thanks, I'll have to test that out. I'll keep it somewhere handy so I can just apply it on all machines I come across that I'm stuck supporting.
 

postmortemIA

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Thanks, I'll have to test that out. I'll keep it somewhere handy so I can just apply it on all machines I come across that I'm stuck supporting.

Didn't they release update to GWX "app" that ignores that registry setting... I hope not.

Anyway there are multiple easy fixes to mitigate risk of unwanted upgrade:
1. Disable option in WU where "Recommended Updates" are installed
2. Hide the KB3035583 update
3. Make sure people using PCs that could inadvertently install Windows "10" are not administrators. My and other experiences is that upgrade will need admin password or admin user logged in.
 

MongGrel

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It's been up and down here, even just sorting out some problems.

But have the regular windows 10 on the HTPC and runs fine.

Upgraded the main rig to Windows 10 insider build 14257 earlier tonight, nothing has blown up yet, but took me a bit to figure out a few quirks on the last couple of insider builds.

I was honestly frustrated and about ready to give up on it earlier after playing with insider builds for many months, but finally worked a few things out.
 
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mikeymikec

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Didn't they release update to GWX "app" that ignores that registry setting... I hope not.

Anyway there are multiple easy fixes to mitigate risk of unwanted upgrade:
1. Disable option in WU where "Recommended Updates" are installed
2. Hide the KB3035583 update
3. Make sure people using PCs that could inadvertently install Windows "10" are not administrators. My and other experiences is that upgrade will need admin password or admin user logged in.

Every time I've used the 'disablegwx' tweak, it's worked for me. I haven't removed any updates as key ones have been superseded at least once already.