TR Ultra120

[PCTC2]

I've got my Q6600 now running F@H on my TR Ultra120 @ stock settings.

The temps aren't really too bad for 31C ambients:
Idles around 40C per core
Loads around 69C per core.

But I decided to open my case. It's hot in there. But when I touch any of the fins or heatpipes within reach (not the base heatpipes...) the Ultra120 isn't even warm.

What is up with that? The thermal interface isn't too bad. I checked my application of AS5 twice and it seemed okay.

 

[invidia]

Did you lap?

 

[Navid]

Compared to the previous chips I have had (P3, P4 2.6CGHz, Opteron 144 and Opteron 165), the Core 2 duo that I have now (E6600) does not feel as hot when the software shows 53 degrees C. It does not even feel warm.

I get the feeling, the core 2 duo sensor intentionally reports a higher temperature!

 

[Operandi]

Originally posted by: PCTC2
But I decided to open my case. It's hot in there. But when I touch any of the fins or heatpipes within reach (not the base heatpipes...) the Ultra120 isn't even warm.

The fins have (relatively speaking) cool air being constantly blown through them so they are not going to feel warm or hot when you touch them, aka thermodynamics.

 

[firewolfsm]

Touch the base to get a better idea of the temps. I don't think C2D temps can ever be trusted, I think it's better to just check for stability and forget about it. I used to worry about my temps a lot but it's useless really.

 

[firewolfsm]

Touch the base to get a better idea of the temps. I don't think C2D temps can ever be trusted, I think it's better to just check for stability and forget about it. I used to worry about my temps a lot but it's useless really.

 

[PCTC2]

Eh. Thermodynamics. I hate physics. I blame my high school physics AP teacher.

 

[bailw]

Originally posted by: firewolfsm
Touch the base to get a better idea of the temps. I don't think C2D temps can ever be trusted, I think it's better to just check for stability and forget about it. I used to worry about my temps a lot but it's useless really.

usually if you dont use an excessive amount of Vcore (>1.55v), temperature under 70 degree c loaded you should be fine for 24/7 no problem guarantee.

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: PCTC2
The thermal interface isn't too bad...

Can you expand on that?

Warped surfaces, poor soldering, et cetera, are the hallmark of this cooler - so much so, that reputable vendors are lapping the Ultras, so called, before selling them to clients (at additional cost, of course)...

 

[PCTC2]

When I take off the cooler, the AS5 is evenly spread, making me think it is making good contact. I'm going to lap both the Q6600 and Ultra120 when I get time, however.

 

[VinDSL]

Smart man!

 

[BonzaiDuck]

#1 -- Ambients ARE high -- that's pushing 90F room temperatures! Do you sweat a lot?

#2 -- Figure a 1:1 drop in CPU and mobo idle and load temperatures for every 1-degree drop in room temperature. Let's see what happens when you put on some AC (or at least a swamp-cooler) and drop those room temperatures to 75F/24C.

I'd expect to see an idle value (per core) of 33C, and a load value of maybe 62C. The idle value is about what you'd expect for an E6600 @75F, and the Q6600 would either be the same or a tad warmer, I'd think. I'd like to see you get your load temperature down into the 50's, but this may not be possible.

This is one reason why it has been recently said that overclocking a quad-core absolutely requires water cooling. If you don't plan to over-clock, then look for ways to push more CFMs through your case with a minimum noise increase, and various incremental improvements in CPU and component-cooling.

The Ultra 120 is a very good cooler. The "Extreme" version -- if lapped -- will win you possibly a 5C drop in load temperatures. I can confirm this because my E6600 @ 3.28 with the Ultra 120 had a peak load value around 52C and a peak value at 47C with the Extreme version -- at about 76F room ambient. If you try some IC Diamond thermal paste, you gain another 2C over the use of AS5.

Of courses all this depends on the actual thermal wattage produced by your processor -- I think for a quad-core at stock settings it's between 105 and 110W. My OC'd E6600 may be producing between 112 and 120W.

By the way -- Frye's Outpost featured an evaporative room cooler with a tray for an ice-pack, an LCD readout and other "nice-features" for about $90 in today's LA Times . . . . They claim it has a low energy requirement. It might be just the thing to cool down that room of yours.

I may be joking with you, but maybe you need something like that. I thought about picking one up for myself today. Like Allen Ginsberg said "He who lives in LA -- IS LA!" or something like that . . . .

 

[PCTC2]

1) I deal with the heat. I work another job at a pizza place. Sitting in front of a 600F oven all day makes you pretty tolerant of the heat. It's a dry heat. Four computers (soon to be 5) putting out close to 400W (soon to be 550W) of thermal power 24/7 is a good source of heat... just not in the summer w/out air con.
2) I have an air con, I just don't use it when I'm not staying in the room, just to check up on all of my F@H WUs. When it's on, I get about 36-39C idle, 59-64C load (F@H). no clue what the ambients are, but probably around 70-75F. I can't leave it on b/c of the huge heat load my computers put out. The damn thing would never shut off... huge electricity bill. If I want to do something, I just take a laptop to another room that's cooler.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

We've got six, and I'm planning to trim the inventory to five, with only three or four running at a time. Thank God, three of them are upstairs.

I know a pizza-place owner who sells me 28 oz cans of Chilean Anchovy fillets packed in olive-oil. Two months ago, he sold me a can for $15. Last week, he asked me for $10. Tell me what's going on in THAT market!!

 

[PCTC2]

haha. no one gets anchovy. I think I've made 30 anchovy pizzas in about the past 3 years. so probably about 10/year and i work 5 days/week there. my boss is one of my best friends. pizza is great. and the pizza business is busier than ever. it's a good market if you can find a niche that's not taken over by one of the huge chains. lol

yeah, the sad part is, you said "we have 6" and i said "I have 4/5" all in the same room (3/4 on a KVM switch, and then my laptop). I personally own and use all of my computers. I really need a new hobby other than overclocking because I have a habit of overspending my budget and then having to buckle the belt a little too tight for the next couple weeks. Did i just commit heresay in these forums? Did I just denounce overclocking hobbyists? NO. I love it. But I need more money....