If i could change it, I'd stretch it out just a bit. They should have taken pictures of a white one with black trim.
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It's a lot easier to convert AWD base designs into RWD designs, than it is to convert FWD into RWD.
Every Subaru rear-end can handle 100% torque (just like all their front-ends can handle 100% torque) so it's very easy to just leave out the center diff and front-end diff from the design. Which equals a RWD drivetrain.
Where did you get that subarus are FWD based? Well, some are, but it depends on what model/drivetrain you choose. Mine is 50/50.
I'm not sure about the weight either. I would think its hard to get cars under that weight unless you start using expensive material or start leaving things out like side impact beams and interior comfort items.
Subaru WRX STI weight distribution, 58%/42% F/R
Many RWD'ers are in the same range, only the best RWD'ers get to around 50%/50%.
Subaru's start out at a much better F/R ratio than most FWDers, and the drivetrain they are reported to be designing for Toyota does not include the front differential, or center differential which will shift the ratio closer to 50/50.
And, probably the main reason is that Toyota needs to get something out the the partnership, so this is something they decided to ask from Subaru. And yes, Subaru is completely capable of designing and building a RWD drivetrain. Like I already pointed out, they already do build rear-end components, and they already do longitudinal engines/transmissions as opposed to the tranverse set ups in FWD cars.
If the platform is balanced properly, and the specs (including price) are as promised, this could be the car that would get me to look at a Toyota dealership. But if the price went too much higher than $12-13k, I'm not sure I'd be interested.
actually, not many fr's get 50/50, most are 52+ in the front and alot awd's are the same, only corvettes(that i know of) and certain cars that place the engine so far back behind the front wheels, achieve 50/50 by putting the transmission in the back as well, mazda(yes mazda) with the rotary engine, if i remember correctly, has been the only one that has achived a perfect 50/50 weight distribution in the 7's and 8 because the engine was placed rather far back on it as well, the first gen was a little nose neavy(maybe 52ish) the second, was rear heavy oddly enough, something like 48/52 except for the T2 model, and the third gen was 50/50, the 8, is 50/50. Nyati13 is completely right on the subject of weight distribution as well. not sure about subies being close to 50/50 because of the center diff, since the engine is pretty much mounted right above the front suspension.
on another note, thats not toyotas new AE86, its just a new Toyota Sprinter Trueno/Corolla, the AE86 was from 85-87. but i get what your getting at, they're trying to bring back the spirit the AE86 had.
And if you want to spend some real money on a good car, wait till the supra/gt-r/rx7 come back to the states, i was reading a road and track, and mazda IS bringing back the rx-7 in some type of forced induction model in the near future(within 3-4yrs). im gonna expect to see at least 300hp from that model and expect something in the mid 13's or lower for 1/4 mile time, considering that the FD3S did 14ish i believe on the 1/4 mile time, and the last one from japan that put out 265hp(at the crank) did 13.5.
the car may have some potential but before you see real tuners, you'll see people swapping out whatever engines they can fit into the thing, and others ricing it up putting fart cans and throwing unneeded rims and tires into it. it kinda looks like a copy of the celica as someone stated before.(the trueno version, not the levin)
on a whole other subject. I'm not a big fan of the drifting scene, and a low hp car, will not win on a track race, yeah you can have a quicker turn in due to light weight and exit a turn faster, but decent car with decent weight and distribution and moderate power, will smoke that "lightweight" low powered car. you cant say otherwise. I like the AE86, but the engine is weak, you cant get beyond that part, and before anyone gets on about how "rotaries" are un-reliable, check the source and think of if they were doing maintenence like they should have according to the book.
I have a rotary that's got 170k miles on it, and it will easily go over 230k with regular maintenence that a rotary should have after that i might burn oil, but burning oil for me is pretty much normal and even if i burn an excessive amount it wont bother me at all. im not a big fan of most new looking cars(the elise is a whole other story, those are beautiful), and that thing, just doesn't perk my interests.
As glutenberg stated, maybe its a sign you shouldn't get one manowar. was it a toyota corolla gt-s or a corolla sr5. the sr5's are a joke and had nothing and it was expensive and very time consuming to swap the engine, trust me, i looked into it. you needed the engine, harness, ecu, tranny, driveshaft, and differential and a few other things, you were better off getting a gt-s than a sr5. the gt-s actually had the 4ag-e engine and you had the possibility of getting a LSD in it. not saying its not a good car, but they just need more power for the weight(and initial d, is not a reference for the car, thats a fkin anime, you dont believe anime's like Eva do you?) the AE86 has a truck rear suspension as well, the rear is a live axel, means the whole differential(which is one piece to the wheel hubs) is one solid chunk of unsprung weight, not good.(sorry this is so long, had to say a few things)
I'm not saying a rotary is the greatest either, rebuilding an engine that puts out 300whp at 160k miles is a major inconvenience and kind of a money pit, but aren't all sports cars money pits?
http://image-cache.rollaclub.com/gallery/members/grimwolge/cars/bluebeast/swaybar/Dscn0252.jpg
on another note, thats not toyotas new AE86, its just a new Toyota Sprinter Trueno/Corolla, the AE86 was from 85-87. but i get what your getting at, they're trying to bring back the spirit the AE86 had.
And if you want to spend some real money on a good car, wait till the supra/gt-r/rx7 come back to the states, i was reading a road and track, and mazda IS bringing back the rx-7 in some type of forced induction model in the near future(within 3-4yrs). im gonna expect to see at least 300hp from that model and expect something in the mid 13's or lower for 1/4 mile time, considering that the FD3S did 14ish i believe on the 1/4 mile time, and the last one from japan that put out 265hp(at the crank) did 13.5.
the car may have some potential but before you see real tuners, you'll see people swapping out whatever engines they can fit into the thing, and others ricing it up putting fart cans and throwing unneeded rims and tires into it. it kinda looks like a copy of the celica as someone stated before.(the trueno version, not the levin)
on a whole other subject. I'm not a big fan of the drifting scene, and a low hp car, will not win on a track race, yeah you can have a quicker turn in due to light weight and exit a turn faster, but decent car with decent weight and distribution and moderate power, will smoke that "lightweight" low powered car. you cant say otherwise. I like the AE86, but the engine is weak, you cant get beyond that part, and before anyone gets on about how "rotaries" are un-reliable, check the source and think of if they were doing maintenence like they should have according to the book.
I have a rotary that's got 170k miles on it, and it will easily go over 230k with regular maintenence that a rotary should have after that i might burn oil, but burning oil for me is pretty much normal and even if i burn an excessive amount it wont bother me at all. im not a big fan of most new looking cars(the elise is a whole other story, those are beautiful), and that thing, just doesn't perk my interests.
As glutenberg stated, maybe its a sign you shouldn't get one manowar. was it a toyota corolla gt-s or a corolla sr5. the sr5's are a joke and had nothing and it was expensive and very time consuming to swap the engine, trust me, i looked into it. you needed the engine, harness, ecu, tranny, driveshaft, and differential and a few other things, you were better off getting a gt-s than a sr5. the gt-s actually had the 4ag-e engine and you had the possibility of getting a LSD in it. not saying its not a good car, but they just need more power for the weight(and initial d, is not a reference for the car, thats a fkin anime, you dont believe anime's like Eva do you?) the AE86 has a truck rear suspension as well, the rear is a live axel, means the whole differential(which is one piece to the wheel hubs) is one solid chunk of unsprung weight, not good.(sorry this is so long, had to say a few things)
I'm not saying a rotary is the greatest either, rebuilding an engine that puts out 300whp at 160k miles is a major inconvenience and kind of a money pit, but aren't all sports cars money pits?
http://image-cache.rollaclub.com/gallery/members/grimwolge/cars/bluebeast/swaybar/Dscn0252.jpg
I dunno if this new "ae86" will be able to capture the popularity of the classic. Speaking as an owner of 3 ae86s (2 gts and 1 sr5 
), the thing that sets it apart is the incredible balance of the car and the rev-happy engine. I have an evo8 too and while flatout acceleration is no contest, I can take turns in a gts as fast as I can with my evo. The thing is, it's all about hp these days so throwing out 120hp or so isn't enough to get people going even if it's only 1000kgs imho...
), the thing that sets it apart is the incredible balance of the car and the rev-happy engine. I have an evo8 too and while flatout acceleration is no contest, I can take turns in a gts as fast as I can with my evo. The thing is, it's all about hp these days so throwing out 120hp or so isn't enough to get people going even if it's only 1000kgs imho...TRENDING THREADS
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