Toyota Supra from "The Fast and the Furious"

kamiam

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funny how all those that bashed my muscle cars and said their riceburners were fast...it took what...$50-75K to get this car to the low 12's...where are these kids now...
 

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Ok, I agree it is a phat car, but



<< If anyone can come up with a better way to spend $150,000, let us know. >>


Ferrari?
 

Pastore

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kamiam, a supercharger and nitrous will throw most cars into 12's... And that is no where near 50k
 

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<< If anyone can come up with a better way to spend $150,000, let us know. >>


Ferrari?



lol, people are so quick to say &quot;Ferrari, Viper GTS, etc&quot;. I would just pull out the latest copy of Barnett Racing and Jeg's and build a nasty nasty big cube BBC (Big Block Chevy for the uninformed). $150K would get you into the 7's easily.
 

kamiam

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maybe...but if you add up all the performance enhancing goodies(including the frame and suspension goodies) he spent about $50K on it not including the electronics seats paint job ect...w/ that much money I could put a muscle car into the 7's or 8's in the 1/4 mi
 

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the small amount of NOS that those 4 bangers can handle will NOT put them in the 12's buddy. I would like to see you spray on a blown motor like that one. The little 4 banger would just fly apart. Sure, he might jet it down to a 50 shot to run with the blower, but the norm on a real race car for nitrous is at least a 250 shot ranging well up into dual stage 500 shot systems. Don't even try that on the Civic down the street.
 

Cable God

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kamiam, I agree with you. It takes a whole lot more to make those, well, rice, run the same times a domestic musclecar runs. It just tickles the hell outta me that these punks around my town think 18&quot; painted wheels, 5 color paint job,multi-color seat belts, fancy seats, huge stereo,sewer pipe exhaust and as many d@mned stickers as will fit on the car makes it a race car.
 

kamiam

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right on!!... btw did you see the post w/ the &quot;kiddies&quot; arguing w/ me about their riceburners??? really didn't give me any figures just alot of &quot;mouth&quot; then when someone else provided links backing up what I said they had no response...think they just like to argue and flamebait... little punks
 

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That car is ugly.

Why do people go to such excess when blinging up the exterior?


First of all, it it slammed to the ground with huge under body spoilers. Giving it a 2 inch ground clearance (or at least that's what it looks like to me.)
Those side designs are retarded. Why can't they just keep it one color.
And that rear spoiler, good God, what trash.
Then we have the windshield banner, another pointless addon.


This car is way too overdone. There are so many better looking Supras out there.
 

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The funny thing is, you can put a muscle car into the 7's all you want, but daily driver? I don't think so. The Supra could be a daily driver. The muscle car would suck ass anyplace else racing besides a straight away. :(
 

geno

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kamiam, TRUST me when I say it doesn't take much (wayy less than what was spent here) to get a Supra into the 12's. It runs almost 13 flat stock. It's nothing to upgrade the turbo. I know someone who upgraded their turbo setup and it shaved almost a full second off of his 1/4 time, and that was the only change made (stock internals as well).
 

Gusfo0

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Funny, why would anyone want a PS2 in a car that can go 185MPH? like you would really be playing that sch!tt.

It's like when you stop at a red light and you have a hot chick in the passenger side. and she's busy playing grand turismo 3 and the guy in the other lane wants to race.

&quot;Sorry buddy, my girl is playing a game, maybe some other time =D&quot;
 

kamiam

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I may not be able to put a streetable version of my muscle car doing 7's put I DO own a streetable version that will do 11's...besides I'm not talking about streetable I'm talking about whats possible dollar for dollar....that supra absolutely will not do 7's even w/ $50k worth of mods... muscle cars can and do...by the way my streetable 11 second muscle car is a 1969 dodge dart w/ a 440 6-pack...had it for the past 11 years
and genocide if it dosn't take much to get those supra's into the 12's then why did that guy spend almost $50k on turbo's and all those modded engine parts,and frame and suspension parts and STILL only got into the low 12's??? $7200 Turbonetics T-66 ball bearing Turbo, Q-trim compressor, built by Performance Factory
$1800 RPS Stainless steel/HTC coated custom header
$1275 100 HO Nitrous Oxide system by NOS
$1590 Greddy front mount intercooler
$795 Greddy Power Extreme exhaust system
$1100 HKS Vein Pressure Converter
$1100 G-Force Engineering Racing ROM
$2100 Powerhouse Racing cylinder head work (port/polish
$3500 Chrome-plated valve cover, intake manifold, throttle body, turbocharger, turbo heat shield, auxilliary heat shield, fuse cover, relay cover, cruise control cover, ignition module cover and all brackets
Tranny
$6200 Gertrag Six-speed gearbox with Stillway sequential adapter
$1900 HKS Hyper Damper coil-over suspension with pillow ball mounts
$1100 Stillen sway bars
with ALL THIS the best he can do is 12.2 in the 1/4 mi

mztykal I have NEVER denied that these cars will just plain run circles around muscle cars when it comes to cornering and handling HOWEVER the topic(generally speaking) concerns STREET RACING....I.E. STOP LIGHT TO STOPLIGHT basically the same as drag racing...in other words STRAIGHT LINE RACING not SCCA style racing
 

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Obviously its stupid pretending that the average rice car and do 1/4 as fast as the average muscle car with the same amount of money put into it.

Its also equally stupid to think that this muscle car handle even in the same ball park. Nothing sucks ass around a corner like an overly powered muscle car that spends its life doing 1/4.

Anyway this particular supra is a poor comparison to a car such as a stock camaro which has horsepower thrown into it. This has infinitely more class and styling. Much of its upgrade money was thrown into looks and interior - not just power. If all you're interested in is 1/4 its not going to cost nearly as much as these guys spent to take the average supra and pull it down to 12 seconds.

However some people are more interested in having a car that is only good in a straight line.

For the record of course if I had this amount of money I'd never dream of buying a Supra and modifying it. Porsche please.
 

kamiam

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I think you better read that article again... either that or get another calculator... if you add it up the racing mods came up to between $40K and $50K the rest(paint electronics ect) about $30K
sorry if I'm not TOTALLY accurate... thats just quickly adding it up in my head... and I've been up all night ...add it up for yourself


<< This has infinitely more class and styling >>

as for that statement it's really up to one's own personal taste...IMHO the thing just plain sucks for looks and styling... but again thats just MHO...to each his own...
 

StageLeft

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Well I think that the $40-50k could have been better placed. If a Supra can run 13s anyway I can't imagine that if all they were interested in was 1/4 it would take $40k+ to remove a second or a second and a half!

Edit: '93 supra turbo runs 1/4 in 13.4 No way it requires that money to lop off 1.2 This according to car-stats.com
 

kamiam

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about the only items (performance wise) that were added to that car that didn't affect engine performance or total E.T. was the suspension... depending on how the front end was set up,that would definitely help in the cornering aspect...$1900 HKS Hyper Damper coil-over suspension with pillow ball mounts
$1100 Stillen sway bars $1100 Bomex front spolier ... lets see... that adds up to about $4100 dollars...so the rest went into
engine and tranny performance


<< No way it requires that money to lop off 1.2 This according to car-stats.com >>

then why did he only gain about a second with all those performance parts??? and just what does car-stats have to say on the matter...please back up your statement with something a little more substantial also can you back that up from other sites as well??
 

geno

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kamiam, if you think a car pushing 550HP can only do 12.2 then you're sorely mistaken. To make my point, this Supra runs 12.06, with &quot;only&quot; 367 to the rear wheels. So I wholeheartedly believe that a 550HP Supra can push better times, so you almost had a valid point :)


more to prove my point:
400RWHP - 12.24 in the quarter
I'm looking at another one that runs 11.18 with 480HP (it's in a list so I don't have a link)
12 flat with only 369RWHP
 

kamiam

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<< This particular piece of machinery is capable of a 4.3 second 0-60 time, 0-100 in 8.2 seconds, and can do the quarter in 12.2 seconds. Its top speed is 185mph. The car is valued at more >>

from the article...I'll look at your link...however there must be some very big differences between the two vehicles

well I looked @ your links...PLENTY of modded parts there...funny I don't see any price tags there...and your only talking about less than a second difference between all cars...sorry you gotta be able to do better than that
 

geno

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My point is - 12.2 isn't pressing that car's limits - no way, no how. A Viper runs those kinds of times with 450HP. If you think that Supra is being pushed to it's limits with that 12.2 time then you're either delusional or just ignorant of the facts. Whoever ran that 1/4 with that car obviously didn't run it right
 

kamiam

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again I must say your only showing me a difference of less than a second with all kinds of performance addons and until you can show me something that is MUCH more radical in speed I will tend to believe that is getting pretty close to the limit...so PROVE ME WRONG and show me something alot more radical than these 3 examples
 

geno

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I think I did prove you wrong. I have many examples of cars running the SAME quarter time as the 550HP car, with almost all of them having around 100HP LESS than that. So what haven't I proven? I showed you that a Supra with 550HP can do way better than 12.2 - how can you argue against what I've shown you? If you want more examples, I'll find some for you.
 

kamiam

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<< I showed you that a Supra with 550HP can do way better than 12.2 >>


all you've really shown me is 2 links of pixs of cars that you claim go that fast and one w/at least a parts list...one very similar to the supra in the article in this thread but w/ no E.T.'s just your claim of an E.T....and even taking your #'s into consideration...
what you showed me was one car that only shaved .2 secs off and another one that shaved 1 sec off( without any link I might add... just your word)... both still heavily modded... show me something that will do mid 9&quot;s and no &quot;funny cars&quot; please...essentially stock bodies w/modded engines and then pleae list about what it took $$$ wise to get that car that fast...I'll be waiting...