Toyota in 2004 - 245hp Camry, Supra, and more...

prontospyder

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pulled from the caranddriver.com forums:

As I was saying last week, my dad went out to a meeting in CA for all future models. He called me, and here's the rundown...
Avalon: Look for the car to be between the current car and a Crown Vic in size, 275-280HP from the new V6, Standard 17"ers maybe optional 18"s, dual exhaust, Sport suspension models avail., even more luxurious than the current model, Prices should be around $33K to $37K.
Camry: New SE Package with everything I said it would have: 17"s, Dual exhaust, even tighter suspension, 6 speed, wide use of TRD components, the exact 245HP V6 I said it would have, yadda yadda yadda...
Corolla- Looking to add a high performance version with around 200HP. 17"s, dual exhaust, different body kit, 6 speed, Sport suspension, Wider use of TRD parts, ect.
Pruis All new next year, longer, wider, more powerful and more stylish.
Echo All new, more stylish and more powerful in '05.
Solara DAMN. A lot to talk about here...The front has the same angular, sleek headlights as the Camry, ES300 and Celica. The rear is sort of SC430, functional hood scoop, side profile is VERY Angular and sleek, 260HP, 6 speed manual, 17"ers with optional 18S, Euro tuned Suspensions, more use of TRD parts, Dual exhaust, sportier interiors, bigger, a REAL sportscar this time...
Matrix-Not too much is new, except for the engine. The Matrix, Celica and Corolla are planning to use the Same new I4 with around 200 HP and around 180 LB-ft of torque.
Celica See above
Spyder Turbo model is in the works, grows slightly for '05 (more room and lots more power, even in the base engine), ect.
TundraF250 hunting this time around. The Standard Tundra moves to 280HP with the availability of 4 real doors. The bed will stay the same size as the current one, even for the 4door model, the HD Tundra gets a 5.4 litre V8 with more than 350HP and more than 450 LB-Ft of torque, few changes here and there...
Sequoia 280HP standard, new interior, new tail lights, new grille and headlights...not much else for a while
4Runner SR5 is just ugly, Limited is absolutely Kickass and looks to turn it's class upside down. Yes, V8 and V6, no 3rd row, functional hoodscoop, a real truck, even more offroad Capable than last time.
Highlander For '05 it turns into more of Camry wagon really with around 235 HP and a few enhancements.
Rav4 Should share a newer, torquier I4 with the Highlander.
LandCruiser Completely new in '05, 250 HP, more much else about it now...

*Supra*. Dad asked and the Execs just smiled, he asked if it would have a standard V6 and optional V8 and they laughed a little...definitely something happening here that they don't want to talk about.

V10 Supercar...yep, it's coming...

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Doggiedog

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Echo All new, more stylish and more powerful in '05.

How can you make the Echo even uglier?
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: Adul
nice :) drool supra is coming back :D

The 245 HP Camry was the most predictable item. The new 3.3 liter V6 will replace the 3.0 in the Camry/ES300/RX300/Sienna/Avalon/Solara. Although I believe that the 6-speed in the Camry info is bullsh!t.

More torque for the Matrix/Corolla/Celia is great! :D
 

prontospyder

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The consumers are gonna have a great variety of affordable performance sedans to choose from in the future (Camry, Accord, Altima, Mazdaspeed 6). Will the domestics ever catch up? :)
 
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Originally posted by: KnightBreed
V10 Supercar...yep, it's coming...
A Toyota supercar. I tell ya, I don't see it happening.

You are ignoring history, as there is precedent for it. The Toyota 2000GT was the first high-end, limited-production Japanese sports car, and paved the way for the NSX.
 

CraigRT

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260 horse celica?? :Q:Q:Q

omg that is insane... so much for Nissan having the crown of most powerful cars in their class.
 

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Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Originally posted by: KnightBreed
V10 Supercar...yep, it's coming...
A Toyota supercar. I tell ya, I don't see it happening.

You are ignoring history, as there is precedent for it. The Toyota 2000GT was the first high-end, limited-production Japanese sports car, and paved the way for the NSX.

i wouldn't really call either a supercar...
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Originally posted by: KnightBreed
V10 Supercar...yep, it's coming...
A Toyota supercar. I tell ya, I don't see it happening.

You are ignoring history, as there is precedent for it. The Toyota 2000GT was the first high-end, limited-production Japanese sports car, and paved the way for the NSX.

i wouldn't really call either a supercar...

For 1968 I imagine it was pretty damn quick.

Viper GTS
 

DougK62

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I have a hard time believing alot of this stuff. A 260hp Celica? It seems unlikely. Who is the fella that made that post over there anyhoo? Is he at ALL reliable? Posts like that get thrown up all the time on car forums from people that just want some attention. I'd take everything on that list with a grain of salt.

Originally posted by: prontospyder
The consumers are gonna have a great variety of affordable performance sedans to choose from in the future (Camry, Accord, Altima, Mazdaspeed 6). Will the domestics ever catch up? :)

Well they have alot of catching up to do, but they at least seem to be moving in the right direction. The Monte Carlo is supposedly going RWD with a manual tranny in a few years, and the next Grand Am due out in a few years supposedly will have well over 200hp with a new DOHC V6 and a manny tranny. We shall see :)

 

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That new Solara sounds sweet. I test drove a 2001 model when I was looking for a new car, and it felt weak and slightly too small in interior space. Make it a bit bigger, throw a 260 hp engine in there and 18" wheels, and it turns into a really nice car....but I'll stick with my Altima ;)
 
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Originally posted by: DougK62
I have a hard time believing alot of this stuff. A 260hp Celica? It seems unlikely.

Am I going nuts or are you guys just not reading carefully? The way I read this post, it says the Solara will get 260 bhp, and that the Celica will share a 200 bhp engine with the Corolla and Matrix.

 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Originally posted by: DougK62
I have a hard time believing alot of this stuff. A 260hp Celica? It seems unlikely.

Am I going nuts or are you guys just not reading carefully? The way I read this post, it says the Solara will get 260 bhp, and that the Celica will share a 200 bhp engine with the Corolla and Matrix.

It's the 180 lb-ft that I have trouble believing.