Toyota engine revs high

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Roger

And at around 6000 rpm, a pin slips into the oil sump, which locks the cams with the engines rpm, boosting power instantly... Cool

A pin slips into the oil sump ?

Locks the cams with the engine rpms ?

I'll refrain from commenting on those two statements.

Errr... what would be the point, a blown top?

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: KokomoGST
Well, a lot of Japanese manufacturers (Honda included) have had a lot of success in revving their 4bangers to high heaven to squeeze the maximum power out of them. Heck, Toyota has had a 1.8L made to rev well past 11k in it's race engines for quite a while now.

Honda engineers have race versions made to rev into range as well. People mod the standard engines here in the states to do the same. It's one of the best ways to wring out more power out of an NA application. All the F1 cars rev WAY up there... I think a lot of teams are running V10s currently... iirc BMW, Ford/Jaguar, and even Ferrari are all running V10s.

V10s are required.

No, not required. There is only a displacement limit. IIRC Ford had a V8 for a few years.

ZV

There's a cylinder limit now... i believe it was 2000-01 or so that the FIA said no V12s... Ferrari and Toyota were believed to be developing V12s and were rumored to have one running... McLaren-Mercedes protested against it i think because once V12s become successful everyone will start going to V12s again and would jack up costs once more. I'll try to see if i could dig up a link... but no V12s until the concorde agreement expires... boooooooo!

 

[boyRacer]

Here's the link...

No V12s until 2007

Booooooooooooooo! By that time... i'm sure McLaren, Williams, Ferrari and the rest of them have that breakaway series ready to go if the FIA keeps on imposing the stupidest rule changes like it did this year.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: KokomoGST
Well, a lot of Japanese manufacturers (Honda included) have had a lot of success in revving their 4bangers to high heaven to squeeze the maximum power out of them. Heck, Toyota has had a 1.8L made to rev well past 11k in it's race engines for quite a while now.

Honda engineers have race versions made to rev into range as well. People mod the standard engines here in the states to do the same. It's one of the best ways to wring out more power out of an NA application. All the F1 cars rev WAY up there... I think a lot of teams are running V10s currently... iirc BMW, Ford/Jaguar, and even Ferrari are all running V10s.

V10s are required.

No, not required. There is only a displacement limit. IIRC Ford had a V8 for a few years.

ZV

V10s are required, man.

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[Howard]

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[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: Sukhoi

Originally posted by: andylawcc
the 1.6L on the 85-89 corolla can be revved to 12k rpm (after heavy modifications of course), it is used in the KART race cars (the engine is better known as the Formula Atlantic 4AGE.)

Really? I have a '88 Corolla FX. Of course it has the damn deadspot in the gas pedal that makes pulling out into traffic a bit interesting.

yes, yes... it is essentially the same engine... .(well, minus a lot of things )
you can do an engine swap for a 160 N/A or 150 Supercharge.... even at such minor hp, it could do wonders to such a light car.

 

[Sukhoi]

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: Sukhoi

Originally posted by: andylawcc
the 1.6L on the 85-89 corolla can be revved to 12k rpm (after heavy modifications of course), it is used in the KART race cars (the engine is better known as the Formula Atlantic 4AGE.)

Really? I have a '88 Corolla FX. Of course it has the damn deadspot in the gas pedal that makes pulling out into traffic a bit interesting.

yes, yes... it is essentially the same engine... .(well, minus a lot of things )
you can do an engine swap for a 160 N/A or 150 Supercharge.... even at such minor hp, it could do wonders to such a light car.

Heh heh, that sure would make the car interesting.

Do you know what the specs on the default engine are? I looked around online a few months ago but couldn't find anything.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: PsychoAndy
This is why people need to lurk more.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Sukhoi

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: Sukhoi

Originally posted by: andylawcc
the 1.6L on the 85-89 corolla can be revved to 12k rpm (after heavy modifications of course), it is used in the KART race cars (the engine is better known as the Formula Atlantic 4AGE.)

Really? I have a '88 Corolla FX. Of course it has the damn deadspot in the gas pedal that makes pulling out into traffic a bit interesting.

yes, yes... it is essentially the same engine... .(well, minus a lot of things )
you can do an engine swap for a 160 N/A or 150 Supercharge.... even at such minor hp, it could do wonders to such a light car.

Heh heh, that sure would make the car interesting.

Do you know what the specs on the default engine are? I looked around online a few months ago but couldn't find anything.

4-cyl, DOHC/4 valves/cyl
1588cc displacement
81mm X 77mm bore/stroke, 9.4:1 static compression ratio
130bhp @ 6600RPM, 216lb-ft @ 5200RPM

 

[SuperSix]

Originally posted by: Vortex22
Umm what? Small engines generally rev higher than large ones.

That's what I was thinking..

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: SuperSix

Originally posted by: Vortex22
Umm what? Small engines generally rev higher than large ones.

That's what I was thinking..

It's technically more dependant on other things, not just the size of the engine.. But yeah, generally.. the smaller engines are going to rev higher than the big grunty V8s.

Your lawnmower will turn about 6000rpm before the valves float.. and it's pretty damn small.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: SuperSix

Originally posted by: Vortex22
Umm what? Small engines generally rev higher than large ones.

That's what I was thinking..

It's technically more dependant on other things, not just the size of the engine.. But yeah, generally.. the smaller engines are going to rev higher than the big grunty V8s.

Your lawnmower will turn about 6000rpm before the valves float.. and it's pretty damn small.

Displacement has less to do with redline than other factors like valve area, rotating/reciprocating mass, friction, bore/stroke ratio, etc.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: SuperSix

Originally posted by: Vortex22
Umm what? Small engines generally rev higher than large ones.

That's what I was thinking..

It's technically more dependant on other things, not just the size of the engine.. But yeah, generally.. the smaller engines are going to rev higher than the big grunty V8s.

Your lawnmower will turn about 6000rpm before the valves float.. and it's pretty damn small.

Displacement has less to do with redline than other factors like valve area, rotating/reciprocating mass, friction, bore/stroke ratio, etc.

Isn't that what I said? LOL!

 

[cainsdive]

Mmmmm.....floating valves, memorys

 

[Sukhoi]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Sukhoi

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: Sukhoi

Originally posted by: andylawcc
the 1.6L on the 85-89 corolla can be revved to 12k rpm (after heavy modifications of course), it is used in the KART race cars (the engine is better known as the Formula Atlantic 4AGE.)

Really? I have a '88 Corolla FX. Of course it has the damn deadspot in the gas pedal that makes pulling out into traffic a bit interesting.

yes, yes... it is essentially the same engine... .(well, minus a lot of things )
you can do an engine swap for a 160 N/A or 150 Supercharge.... even at such minor hp, it could do wonders to such a light car.

Heh heh, that sure would make the car interesting.

Do you know what the specs on the default engine are? I looked around online a few months ago but couldn't find anything.

4-cyl, DOHC/4 valves/cyl
1588cc displacement
81mm X 77mm bore/stroke, 9.4:1 static compression ratio
130bhp @ 6600RPM, 216lb-ft @ 5200RPM

:Q:Q:Q:Q:Q

Are you sure about that?? The Corolla is so much slower than our '99 Malibu which has 150 hp and 180 lb-ft.

Are those specs for a new version of that engine, or a modded '88 or something?

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Sukhoi

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Sukhoi

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: Sukhoi

Originally posted by: andylawcc
the 1.6L on the 85-89 corolla can be revved to 12k rpm (after heavy modifications of course), it is used in the KART race cars (the engine is better known as the Formula Atlantic 4AGE.)

Really? I have a '88 Corolla FX. Of course it has the damn deadspot in the gas pedal that makes pulling out into traffic a bit interesting.

yes, yes... it is essentially the same engine... .(well, minus a lot of things )
you can do an engine swap for a 160 N/A or 150 Supercharge.... even at such minor hp, it could do wonders to such a light car.

Heh heh, that sure would make the car interesting.

Do you know what the specs on the default engine are? I looked around online a few months ago but couldn't find anything.

4-cyl, DOHC/4 valves/cyl
1588cc displacement
81mm X 77mm bore/stroke, 9.4:1 static compression ratio
130bhp @ 6600RPM, 216lb-ft @ 5200RPM

:Q:Q:Q:Q:Q

Are you sure about that?? The Corolla is so much slower than our '99 Malibu which has 150 hp and 180 lb-ft.

Are those specs for a new version of that engine, or a modded '88 or something?

Well those are the specs for the AE86. The torque number looks kind of bogus, though.

 

[andylawcc]

that should be a typo.

http://autos.msn.com/vip/engines.aspx?modelid=2694&src=vip

even though the 1988 Corolla are FWD, the engine is still the same 4AGE. just around 110hp and 110 torque. the Japanese 1984-1987 4AGE Corolla GTS has 130hp stock (some are even carburated)
then 1988-1994 becomes FWD, the engine remains the same, but Toyota also introduced a supercharged version which is ONLY available in US in the MR2. Torque, of course, is significantly increased.

later then (i forgot the years), the 20 valves 4AGE with 150hp came to life in the AE101 Corolla Levin, the 160hp 4AGE 20v then follows. That should be the LAST generation of the A series engine (not counting the pos torqueless VVTi-L ZZ.)

 

[Thegonagle]

4-cyl, DOHC/4 valves/cyl
1588cc displacement
81mm X 77mm bore/stroke, 9.4:1 static compression ratio
130bhp @ 6600RPM, 216lb-ft @ 5200RPM

That is a typo. That would be 214-215 HP @ 5200RPM. :Q

 

[Sukhoi]

Originally posted by: andylawcc
that should be a typo.

http://autos.msn.com/vip/engines.aspx?modelid=2694&src=vip

even though the 1988 Corolla are FWD, the engine is still the same 4AGE. just around 110hp and 110 torque. the Japanese 1984-1987 4AGE Corolla GTS has 130hp stock (some are even carburated)
then 1988-1994 becomes FWD, the engine remains the same, but Toyota also introduced a supercharged version which is ONLY available in US in the MR2. Torque, of course, is significantly increased.

later then (i forgot the years), the 20 valves 4AGE with 150hp came to life in the AE101 Corolla Levin, the 160hp 4AGE 20v then follows. That should be the LAST generation of the A series engine (not counting the pos torqueless VVTi-L ZZ.)

Thanks for the link...I noticed an interesting thing there. The FX16 has 110 hp out of the 1.6 L engine, while the FX only has a 74 hp 1.6 L engine. That would certainly explain the pathetic performance since I'm pretty sure I only have the FX.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Howard
Displacement has less to do with redline than other factors like valve area, rotating/reciprocating mass, friction, bore/stroke ratio, etc.

All else being equal, more displacement = more rotating mass.

ZV

 

[MustangSVT]

Originally posted by: andylawcc
that should be a typo.

http://autos.msn.com/vip/engines.aspx?modelid=2694&src=vip

even though the 1988 Corolla are FWD, the engine is still the same 4AGE. just around 110hp and 110 torque. the Japanese 1984-1987 4AGE Corolla GTS has 130hp stock (some are even carburated)
then 1988-1994 becomes FWD, the engine remains the same, but Toyota also introduced a supercharged version which is ONLY available in US in the MR2. Torque, of course, is significantly increased.

later then (i forgot the years), the 20 valves 4AGE with 150hp came to life in the AE101 Corolla Levin, the 160hp 4AGE 20v then follows. That should be the LAST generation of the A series engine (not counting the pos torqueless VVTi-L ZZ.)

this thread was informative and interesting. thanx .

which one is the one takumi drives? and specs on it?

TAKUMEEEEEEEEEEE!!! DRIFFFT AND BEAT THAT EVO!!!

 

[manuelku]

talking about high rev engine for toyota? how about this? Japanese touring Group A AE101 4age engine? it revs up to 10 - 11k to make real power... but generally toyota engine revs low because it has pretty good power around 5-6k already.. and vvti and vvti l is helping out some low end torque..

if you want high rev car.. go for honda.. it's type r revs all the way to 9k... vtec power yo


^^^
Takumi drives a 86 treuno apex gt I think... 4age with lsd.. 130ps

 

[ElFenix]

this engine revs to 35,000 RPM! thats 2x what an F1 engine does! it must be god!

 

[Sukhoi]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
this engine revs to 35,000 RPM! thats 2x what an F1 engine does! it must be god!

Hahahaha!

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
this engine revs to 35,000 RPM! thats 2x what an F1 engine does! it must be god!

Even before clicking the link I thought to myself, "That's got to be an RC engine." Still, it's two-cycle. No valvetrain. Valvetrain is one of the biggest limiters for 4-cycle engines. Also, with a single cylinder you don't have to worry about the crankshaft whipping, etc.

ZV