tami

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hire me.

(i'd take the first guy. it seems like you are only doing a project assignment so maybe the second guy will come around for another project later on.)
 

torpid

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How is being old a downside? I don't follow. I'd rather have an older person than someone green. Young people are enthusiastic, but they don't understand how the world really works. A guy who's been around in the computer industry for a while is going to know a lot more about how to handle situations, people, programs, programming, etc.
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: torpid
How is being old a downside? I don't follow. I'd rather have an older person than someone green. Young people are enthusiastic, but they don't understand how the world really works. A guy who's been around in the computer industry for a while is going to know a lot more about how to handle situations, people, programs, programming, etc.

well i am just concerned because of the aggressive timeline for this project will he be able to be as sharp(quick & efficient) as we need him to be to get this all done on time.
 

amoeba

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sounds more aggressive doesn't mean finish project faster.

I go with old dude.
 

BriGy86

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company's need to learn that bullsh!ting doesn't do ANYTHING for you business

all you do when you take the BS approach is hide the problem for a while, then it comes back to blow up in your face X10

heres an idea, hire someone that can DO THE JOB, its as simple as that

i'd go with the old guy
 

BriGy86

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Originally posted by: amoeba
sounds more aggressive doesn't mean finish project faster.

I go with old dude.


agreed, "aggresive" could also mean he'll crash and burn that much faster :)
 

callmesteve

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Old dude, I made the mistake of judging books by their cover, but honestly, the more experienced one will get the job done more efficiently. That really was an easy decision
 

blackdogdeek

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Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: torpid
How is being old a downside? I don't follow. I'd rather have an older person than someone green. Young people are enthusiastic, but they don't understand how the world really works. A guy who's been around in the computer industry for a while is going to know a lot more about how to handle situations, people, programs, programming, etc.

well i am just concerned because of the aggressive timeline for this project will he be able to be as sharp(quick & efficient) as we need him to be to get this all done on time.

imo, this is more of a reason to hire the old guy.

he has the experience. nothing is more inefficient than having to teach or extra-manage a green developer.
 
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programmer vs a web page writer? come on, ez choice

and btw what are you doing hiring a CS guy? all those jobs are overseas right? :confused:
 

notfred

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Old guy, especially since he jsut finished writing an app for your company that you're happy with. He has a good track record, why not hire him again?
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: torpid
How is being old a downside? I don't follow. I'd rather have an older person than someone green. Young people are enthusiastic, but they don't understand how the world really works. A guy who's been around in the computer industry for a while is going to know a lot more about how to handle situations, people, programs, programming, etc.

well i am just concerned because of the aggressive timeline for this project will he be able to be as sharp(quick & efficient) as we need him to be to get this all done on time.

Ah, I see.

There is a potential downside to the young guy though. As much as the physical / family possibilities of the old guy at least as far as potential disaster goes. The young guy could just be incapable of delivering. If the young guy sucks at his job, it doesn't matter if he stays for 24 hours a day, he still is likely to continue sucking. I would wager than an old guy who can only work for 8 hours a day is going to do more for your project than a young guy who can work for 24 hours but sucks badly and doesn't understand how things work.
 

DaveSimmons

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old dude = gets things right the first time, has experience to build the best solution. Doesn't stay late but doesn't need to.

young "agressive" dude = may make false starts or paint self into corner from lesser experience. Might build fast, rougher solutions that don't scale or aren't easy to maintain.
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
old dude = gets things right the first time, has experience to build the best solution. Doesn't stay late but doesn't need to.

young "agressive" dude = may make false starts or paint self into corner from lesser experience. Might build fast, rougher solutions that don't scale or aren't easy to maintain.

ditto
 

Kev

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this is probably the easiest decision of all time. either this is a joke, or you're an incompetant manager
 

gigapet

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ok i just interviewed a 3rd candidate....

no academic degrees. Self taught. Has skillset. May be rough around the edges.
Not feeling too confident about him.


I think I am going to go with the old guy. I hope the stigma of older = slower doesnt come back to bite me
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: Kev
this is probably the easiest decision of all time. either this is a joke, or you're an incompetant manager

Im not a manager, I have never previously interviewed someone. Can you cut me some slack I am not even a year out of college and they have me hiring ppl and leading projects.....
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Kev
this is probably the easiest decision of all time. either this is a joke, or you're an incompetant manager

Im not a manager, I have never previously interviewed someone. Can you cut me some slack I am not even a year out of college and they have me hiring ppl and leading projects.....

sorry i assumed you were the manager. but still, this is sooooo easy