Tough Love Can Backfire

GasX

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Parents seek answers over son's death

The parents of 17-year-old Liam Ashley, who was beaten to death en route to prison, say they were the ones who charged him with theft.

Ashley was found badly beaten in the back of a Chubb Security van on Thursday night. Although he was revived by paramedics at the scene, he died on Friday.

Ashley's family say his parents wanted to teach him a lesson about the consequences of breaking the law. He had taken his mother's car without permission so they had him charged him with theft.

On Thursday Ashley appeared at the North Shore District Court. The judge offered him bail but his parents chose to send him to prison as a deterrent.

But on the trip to Auckland Central Remand prison, he was believed to have been strangled and assaulted by two others in the van.

Ashley's family have issued a statement listing 10 questions they want answered, such as why was a 17-year-old with no history of serious crime or violence was transported unattended with more serious offenders?

Head of Public Prisons Harry Hawthorne says that "best practice would be that young prisoners should be separated from older prisoners. That may not always be possible."

Chubb Security says it is investigating the incident but will not comment further.

Police, the Department of Corrections and Chubb Security are all running separate investigations but no arrests have yet been made.

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I have to assume the parents feel a little bad about this...
 

SP33Demon

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Oh well, the kid probably talked smack in the van and got permanently silenced. Not exactly the brightest bulb.
 

BooGiMaN

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wow i feel bad for the parents...they were doign what they thought was best and it just backfired horribley
 

CKent

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Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
wow i feel bad for the parents...they were doign what they thought was best and it just backfired horribley

You'd have to be clinically retarded to think that was what was best. So in other words they were about as bright as the average parent these days.
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Oh well, the kid probably talked smack in the van and got permanently silenced. Not exactly the brightest bulb.

maybe he had a purty mouth...
 

ScottyB

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I feel bad for the kid. The parents, I hope they suffer for the rest of their miserable, fvcktard lives.
 

acemcmac

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Oh well, the kid probably talked smack in the van and got permanently silenced. Not exactly the brightest bulb.

make assumptions much?
 

KB

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He had to be a bad kid for the parents to go to this length to punish him. I am sure they were fed up with his misbehaving.
How amny here would steal their parents car?

He didn't deserve death, but he was asking for trouble.
 

arcas

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The parents will have the rest of their lives to second-guess themselves.

 

Thraxen

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Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
wow i feel bad for the parents...they were doign what they thought was best and it just backfired horribley

You'd have to be clinically retarded to think that was what was best. So in other words they were about as bright as the average parent these days.

Meh... this forum can't make up its mind on stuff like this. I gaurantee you that if someone posted here saying that he took his parent's car without permission and his parents sent him to jail for a night that pretty much the entire forum would be saying he deserved it and applauding the parents.
 

NFS4

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Ashley's family have issued a statement listing 10 questions they want answered, such as why was a 17-year-old with no history of serious crime or violence was transported unattended with more serious offenders?
his parents chose to send him to prison as a deterrent.
Question and answer
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: KB
He had to be a bad kid for the parents to go to this length to punish him. I am sure they were fed up with his misbehaving.
How amny here would steal their parents car?

He didn't deserve death, but he was asking for trouble.
Maybe he was a good kid with over-controlling parents whose one act of teenage rebellion was taking the car to meet his friends for a Pizza on a school night...
 

0roo0roo

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u gotta add stupid prison system. i dunno why inmates are allowed to contact each other. they should have individual cells, tiny individual cells and as little human contact as possible.
 

Dragoon42

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i wish these people had realized their worthlessness and didn't make a spawn of themselves. Oh well, sad for the kid =/

What kind of retard parents send their kids to prison for that? That's a little extreme on tough love (no pun intended)
 

buck

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
wow i feel bad for the parents...they were doign what they thought was best and it just backfired horribley

You'd have to be clinically retarded to think that was what was best. So in other words they were about as bright as the average parent these days.

Meh... this forum can't make up its mind on stuff like this. I gaurantee you that if someone posted here saying that he took his parent's car without permission and his parents sent him to jail for a night that pretty much the entire forum would be saying he deserved it and applauding the parents.

Umm, he wasnt going to jail for a night. They were sending him to prison, where he would remain until someone posted bail or his trial was over. If someone is a lawyer, correct me if i am wrong.
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: Dragoon42
i wish these people had realized their worthlessness and didn't make a spawn of themselves. Oh well, sad for the kid =/

What kind of retard parents send their kids to prison for that? That's a little extreme on tough love (no pun intended)

Maybe this wasn't the first dumb sh!t he had done....

Plus, if it didn't happen now, and he was doing retarded stuff like this regularly, it would probably have happened sooner or later, which means we caught him before he spread his genes.

Of course if this was the first thing like this he had done, then the parents are stupid. As usual, it's hard to tell without more information.