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Toshiba to launch Blu-Ray rival in 6mths

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Funny part is if they sell these things in the sub 100 range they will most likely outsell stand alone Blu-Ray players within 6 months. Probably outsell the PS3 within a couple of years. Even if the actual format never takes off.

Then why did they drop HD-DVD? It was selling players for 100$ and was doing fine except for the studio support which was getting dropped.
 
They were selling them at way below cost to get market penetration. It kind of work but at the end it failed because of the lack of studio support.
 
Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: Shawn
I don't think so. They are coming out with a new upconverting player that is supposed to have superior upconversion to even a Reon. But that's about it. It's still 480p.

And no improvements in colors or sound.

Exactly. Here is the original article that was misquoted by Intology and then wildly inflated with web rumors:
Yomiuri Shimbun

Toshiba's new technology has been made possible by developing a large integrated circuit that can instantly convert images produced in the current format into high-resolution images.

It's just an upscaling DVD player not a new format, even if it is assembled by grey aliens in low-light conditions.
 
Originally posted by: BassBomb
Originally posted by: Genx87
Funny part is if they sell these things in the sub 100 range they will most likely outsell stand alone Blu-Ray players within 6 months. Probably outsell the PS3 within a couple of years. Even if the actual format never takes off.

Then why did they drop HD-DVD? It was selling players for 100$ and was doing fine except for the studio support which was getting dropped.

With Warner switching they were selling an overpriced upconverter. This thing looks like an extension of the current DVD standard. Hardware costs should be much lower than HD-DVD.
 
Originally posted by: cliftonite
Originally posted by: Genx87
Funny part is if they sell these things in the sub 100 range they will most likely outsell stand alone Blu-Ray players within 6 months. Probably outsell the PS3 within a couple of years. Even if the actual format never takes off.

Whats even funnier is that it still wont be as good as Blu-ray.

Ok? You got me there.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
With Warner switching they were selling an overpriced upconverter. This thing looks like an extension of the current DVD standard. Hardware costs should be much lower than HD-DVD.

No, this is just an upscaling DVD player. No new format, no extension, no extra data on the disc. See the original Japanese article in my post just above yours.

The only disc formats you'll see outside of China in the next 4-5 years are blu-ray and standard DVD.
 
How many upscaling DVD players do we need? Just move on to the next technology (BR-D) and let the content producers focus on those.

This is like somebody making the best PS2-looking game out there. Who cares? Even in its best form, it won't look better than a next-generation game.
 
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: erwos

That's a very narrow view of the market. What if you could get them looking like one of those "HD" movies you download off iTunes or Xbox Live Video Marketplace? There's obviously a lot of demand for those. Look at the market as a spectrum of desires, values, and needs, rather than just being "it'll be a smash hit or it'll be a total flop".

They will never look or sound like a Blu-Ray. End of discussion

99% of people don't have DTS-HD or DD+ receivers and couldn't tell the difference if they did. They're also not as anal about visual quality as the typical person in this forum so will snap up these players like hotcakes rather than paying $400 + $30/movie for b-ray.

99% of people don't have properly configured 1080p televisions either. And why would your "typical person" buy a new player period if they are "not as anal about visual quality"?

You've invented a phantom demographic - don't care enough about quality to go Blu, but care enough to buy a new DVD player, but not one of the upconverting players on the market, and didn't buy HD-DVD because it was too expensive, but will buy this new product at the same price point that HD-DVD exited the market at.

@ The original story: In other news German dirigible companies have announced that they're going to take on the intercontinental aircraft market with their new Hindenburg Mark II airships. They're sure they've got the bugs worked out this time.
 
There have been several announcements of laser technologies that could pack a lot more data onto a disk then Blue Ray.
Can't they release a 3.5" standard that would fit a full Blue Ray set of data on a smaller disk so that you could use it in a portable player, Camcorder or a gaming system.
And don't put it in a cartridge or anything , keep it simple.
Not sure if anyone remembers Johny Mnemonic, they had these small disk cartridges that went into small devices.
Well we got one up on that by packing multiple layers into one disk, so all you need to do is shrink the disk and you got a winner.
Who needs these huge racks of Disks or CD libraries collecting dust, if you could fit a couple hundred disks in a photo slide sized enclosure.
 
Flash memory makes more sense for digital camcorders and for portable storage. Just like the plastic blocks in Star Trek TOS 🙂 .

Players need to support the CD/DVD disc size for backwards compatibility, and you can fit 100+ DVDs into one binder now so space isn't really a problem.
 
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