Torture, does it work?

Atrail

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Can interrogation be non-violent? Our guest this hour, U.S. Air Force interrogator Matthew Alexander, believes that more civilized interrogation techniques are more productive and he has the results to prove it. Alexander will join us this hour to discuss his service and his new book "How to Break a Terrorist: The U.S. Interrogators Who Used Brains, Not Brutality, To Take Down the Deadliest Man in Iraq"

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I found this to be a very interesting interview. I wonder how many years our troops will suffer from the Bush/Rumsfeld policies?
If you listen to it you can draw a picture of how rampant this problem was, but that there were many great people serving their country honorably.

 

JS80

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lol pouring water down someone's face = torture? when we start pulling nails and hammering toes let me know.
 

Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: JS80
lol pouring water down someone's face = torture? when we start pulling nails and hammering toes let me know.

Waterboarding is officially torture, and so are a lot of other methods. That's not even touching the methods we outsource to Syria.

Here's what I don't get-- why did the Bush administration convince itself that torture works? What did it have to gain?
 

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Originally posted by: JS80
lol pouring water down someone's face = torture? when we start pulling nails and hammering toes let me know.
US doesn't need to; it ships people off to Syria for that.

 

JS80

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: JS80
lol pouring water down someone's face = torture? when we start pulling nails and hammering toes let me know.
US doesn't need to; it ships people off to Syria for that.

mmmm...touche.
 

Atrail

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This is about how to obtain better data more rapidly to save lives and how brutality fails to do that.
Not a boohoohoo about terrorist feelings, well being...
 

daveymark

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Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
If torture is good enough for Batman, it's good enough for me.

you can't have your cake and eat it too; you'll also need to endure constant physical duress, spend your life alone, and pine for a girl you can never have.

enjoy!
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: JS80
lol pouring water down someone's face = torture? when we start pulling nails and hammering toes let me know.

Are you an idiot? From all objective sources waterboarding is much worse than pulling nails. Much, much worse.
 

BMW540I6speed

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The methods of detention and interrogation, including those of waterboarding, sleep deprivation, cold cells, stress positions, and the like, adopted by the Bush Administrationm, were pioneered by Jacob Yeshov [Stalin's secret police chief] in order to elicit confessions devised as a part of the "scripting" of Stalin's purge trials. Those methods were not, and are not, useful for the purpose of eliciting "facts", only "confessions". Their credibility and use relied on the skill of the script writers, the perfidy of the prosecutors, and the complicity of the courts.

 

Martin

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Originally posted by: JS80
lol pouring water down someone's face = torture? when we start pulling nails and hammering toes let me know.

Well, Nazis were tried and convicted of torture because they used waterboarding, so what do you think, dumbass?
 

Jschmuck2

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Originally posted by: JS80
lol pouring water down someone's face = torture? when we start pulling nails and hammering toes let me know.

Is there a single neocon talking point you disagree with?