Torn! Upgrade vid card now? Or wait for Radeon 7K and upgrade cpu/mobo?

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BD231

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You can't go wrong with a 460, at 100 bucks who cares what comes out next. You'll be able to play everything pretty darn smooth with a decent CPU and jump on whatever new tech you want having wasted little money on a mid range GPU selection.

But that CPU is not up to par so it's time you get yourself into a quad core of some kind as others have stated.
 

cmdrdredd

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Don't see what's funny.

I'll remember to reply to your comment again when it comes out. 28nm has had less issues compared to 40nm at launch.

There have already been reports of delays before. Plus, these cards don't just pop out of thin air. No pictures of the PCB, no leaked specs, nothing... it always happens before release. Leaks.

Not only that but the focus seems to be on low power mobile parts right now. New year is only about 6 weeks away. If I were placing bets I'd bet they would keep the current gen around for the time being, then after the holiday start ramping up new GPUs.
 
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LOL_Wut_Axel

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There have already been reports of delays before. Plus, these cards don't just pop out of thin air. No pictures of the PCB, no leaked specs, nothing... it always happens before release. Leaks.

Not only that but the focus seems to be on low power mobile parts right now. New year is only about 6 weeks away. If I were placing bets I'd bet they would keep the current gen around for the time being, then after the holiday start ramping up new GPUs.

Looks like you definitely haven't been paying attention. We already have leaks and AMD has demonstrated working 28nm GPUs ever since June. TSMC themselves said they and their partners prepared themselves better for 28nm than 40nm and are having less yield issues and the node is already in full volume production.

Delays were for the GCN, or the HD 7900 series. Those may or may not launch in January. Everything points to a Dec or Jan release for the HD 7800 series and not later than that; after all, it's just a die shrink of Cayman with slightly higher clocks. Maybe you should stop pulling things out of your behind.
 

cmdrdredd

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Looks like you definitely haven't been paying attention. We already have leaks and AMD has demonstrated working 28nm GPUs ever since June. TSMC themselves said they and their partners prepared themselves better for 28nm than 40nm and are having less yield issues and the node is already in full volume production.

Delays were for the GCN, or the HD 7900 series. Those may or may not launch in January. Everything points to a Dec or Jan release for the HD 7800 series and not later than that; after all, it's just a die shrink of Cayman with slightly higher clocks. Maybe you should stop pulling things out of your behind.

Mobile parts dude... mobile...low power etc. Read: Not high end which for someone buying new components would probably want to wait and see anyway unless like me, they are buying for the now.

Besides, you said next month which is absolutely not going to happen, or January. That might not happen in large enough quantities to matter. See in my view and I think it's a safe bet, new GPUs are released in somewhat limited quantities initially. If there is not sufficient stock to buy one somewhere and they sell out too quickly, and the prices don't drop on the older parts as a result of the new GPU release, It's a wasted effort to wait and wait when you could be enjoying something right now.

However IMO the point is moot anyway as it's pretty clear the OP should focus on a total system upgrade and not just GPU. So it might be the only option to wait it out.
 
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nsavop

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Mobile parts dude... mobile...low power etc. Read: Not high end which for someone buying new components would probably want to wait and see anyway unless like me, they are buying for the now.

Besides, you said next month which is absolutely not going to happen, or January. That might not happen in large enough quantities to matter. See in my view and I think it's a safe bet, new GPUs are released in somewhat limited quantities initially. If there is not sufficient stock to buy one somewhere and they sell out too quickly, and the prices don't drop on the older parts as a result of the new GPU release, It's a wasted effort to wait and wait when you could be enjoying something right now.

However IMO the point is moot anyway as it's pretty clear the OP should focus on a total system upgrade and not just GPU. So it might be the only option to wait it out.

I wouldn't be so quick dismiss January, there's been recent reports that production of 28nm parts at TSMC are in full production and AMD has stuck by there original projections to have them out by the end of the year. Even if the are mobile parts desktop should follow shortly there after. Everything I have read seems to point to 28nm being here sooner rather then later.
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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Mobile parts dude... mobile...low power etc. Read: Not high end which for someone buying new components would probably want to wait and see anyway unless like me, they are buying for the now.

Besides, you said next month which is absolutely not going to happen, or January. That might not happen in large enough quantities to matter. See in my view and I think it's a safe bet, new GPUs are released in somewhat limited quantities initially. If there is not sufficient stock to buy one somewhere and they sell out too quickly, and the prices don't drop on the older parts as a result of the new GPU release, It's a wasted effort to wait and wait when you could be enjoying something right now.

However IMO the point is moot anyway as it's pretty clear the OP should focus on a total system upgrade and not just GPU. So it might be the only option to wait it out.

Nope. Next month or January. The HD 7800 cards are in volume production as we speak.

As far as quantities goes, it'll obviously be low to medium in availability at the beginning. Same thing happened with the HD 5000 series. What you're forgetting is that these new cards will deliver much higher performance at previous Performance market price points: $150 to ~$250. The HD 7850 promises to bring slightly-higher-than HD 6950 performance for a lot less.
 

cmdrdredd

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Nope. Next month or January. The HD 7800 cards are in volume production as we speak.

As far as quantities goes, it'll obviously be low to medium in availability at the beginning. Same thing happened with the HD 5000 series. What you're forgetting is that these new cards will deliver much higher performance at previous Performance market price points: $150 to ~$250. The HD 7850 promises to bring slightly-higher-than HD 6950 performance for a lot less.

Unless you work for AMD you can't say for sure...rumor is still rumor.
 

Informant X

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Thanks guys, and thanks for keeping your banter respectful (Honestly). I decided to upgrade my system for now.

Gigabyte Z68 Mobo
64 gig MSATA drive for Intel SRT
8 Gigs of ram
Intel i2500K

Can't wait!!!
 

Pacman4

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I'm going to try and keep my 6850 ticking over till this time next yr, and if there's some games that justify an upgrade, then so be it.
 
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Thanks guys, and thanks for keeping your banter respectful (Honestly). I decided to upgrade my system for now.

Gigabyte Z68 Mobo
64 gig MSATA drive for Intel SRT
8 Gigs of ram
Intel i2500K

Can't wait!!!

i'm not sure i would bother with the ssd caching. i just install os and programs on the ssd, videos and stuff are plenty quick enough on disk. it just seems unnecessary for home use.
 

bryanW1995

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That may well be accurate, but if you read the entire article it is based upon "leaked" info. Toms has really gone downhill in the past few years...
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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That may well be accurate, but if you read the entire article it is based upon "leaked" info. Toms has really gone downhill in the past few years...

It IS based on leaked info. As of now no new leaked info has come to light, so this is more than probably right. It's too late for specs apart from clock speeds to change, anyway.