UNCjigga
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Dealers still lie you know! I remember when the Honda Pilot first came out. The day of the release it was advertised as being "in stock" at Hendrick Honda (where I got my Accord.) I took my car in for an oil change THAT day and saw the demo being driven out for a test drive. When I asked a salesperson how many were left, he laughed and said they'd all been sold for the next two months before the release date.
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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: NFS4
You said it wasn't out. It most definitely is
by that theory, the 2003 Silverado is out too, since i seem them almost everyday. Along with the H2 and the Chrysler Pacifica.
The Chrysler Pacifica and 2003 Silverado SS aren't sitting in a dealership though. They also haven't been advertising them as being in stock. I also don't see dealer giving test drives in either of those vehicles.
From the picture, there is another white PT Turbo sitting on the lot. Regardless, they have them in stock (or have already sold them out). They are there. If people have already bought those two I can see in the pic, it means they're on sale.
But the fact remains, it is out...at least here in NC.
As for the Honda Pilot issue. Those things have been sold out already all over the US. If you didn't plunk down your money early, then you're SOL. But the fact remains, those vehicle once they arrive are already spoken for. So as soon as they come off the truck they aren't able to be test driven by the buying public b/c they already have owners. Chances are, when you went to go look at that Pilot that was being advertisted, there were already 3 or 4 people that had already picked up theirs (they probably arrived on the same truck as the demo model). So it was available and it was on sale...it's just that you have to be early enough to get in on it.
When the first Mercury Cougar Turbo came out I was working at a Lincoln Mercury dealership. It got driven so hard the first day by the mechanics and salesmen it literally froze up the motor! After it cooled down it did restart and was sold to an unsuspecting customer.
I wouldn't buy that PT Cruiser.....nope!
Zenmervolt
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<<The LX sedans are rear-wheel-drive replacements for the front-wheel-drive LH lineup.>>
Well, at least they're going back to an engine driving the rear wheels as God and Henry (Ford) intended.
<<It's nice to see risk taking and the less trodden path rewarded. The car is like a piece of art, quite beautiful. Of course, I have taste.>>
Moonbeam, your "less trodden path" (which I take to mean the purchase of the PT by people who like to think differently) is simply a strict conformity to the current standards of non-conformity. "There is nothing a non-conformist hates so much as another non-conformist who does not conform to his [the first non-conformist's] definition of non-conformity."
ZV
Well, at least they're going back to an engine driving the rear wheels as God and Henry (Ford) intended.
<<It's nice to see risk taking and the less trodden path rewarded. The car is like a piece of art, quite beautiful. Of course, I have taste.>>
Moonbeam, your "less trodden path" (which I take to mean the purchase of the PT by people who like to think differently) is simply a strict conformity to the current standards of non-conformity. "There is nothing a non-conformist hates so much as another non-conformist who does not conform to his [the first non-conformist's] definition of non-conformity."
ZV
Dual700, I don't own either, but they look nice.
Zenmarvolt, your take was not my intended one. The risk taker was Chrysler for building a modern retro hybrid, and your complicated reasoning is just solipsistic bunk. As a non conformist, I don't pay the slightest attention to whether everybody or knbody thinks like me. I have taste and everybody else or nobody else may too. I don't control that and I don't keep records on it either.
Zenmarvolt, your take was not my intended one. The risk taker was Chrysler for building a modern retro hybrid, and your complicated reasoning is just solipsistic bunk.
As a non conformist, I don't pay the slightest attention to whether everybody or knbody thinks like me. I have taste and everybody else or nobody else may too. I don't control that and I don't keep records on it either.
Zenmervolt
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Moonbeam, taking solipsism to be quasi-synonomous with Sophistry, bear in mind that you have very likely never encountered a living Sophist, and that they majority of the information we have about the Sophists comes from the most avowed enemies of the Sophists. Sophistry has been rather unfairly maligned in my view.
ZV
EDIT: Having double checked the definition of "solipsism", it seems to me that you were accusing me rather more of Sophistry than of Solipsism.
ZV
EDIT: Having double checked the definition of "solipsism", it seems to me that you were accusing me rather more of Sophistry than of Solipsism.
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
i guess DCX really didnt aim it at the 18 year old virgin computer geek as proved by this forum.
muahaha
Zenmervolt, I thought you made all that up yourself, but if you prefer sophistry and the shoe fits, and who better suited to know what you're guilty of than you, then who am I to argue. I got carried away, I know, but dictionary dot com was running a twofer.
I was curious, though, as if one could ever trust simple curiousity as a real motive, what you thought of the real thrust of my comment, that a correct understanding on non conformity is that it has no standard. What you were describing, I think, was reactionism, backlash, or contrariness not non-conformity. Non conformity is a judgment call made externally and by others to categorize a preexisting act of will made withour reference to standards, sort of soliopsistically.
I got carried away, I know, but dictionary dot com was running a twofer. I was curious, though, as if one could ever trust simple curiousity as a real motive, what you thought of the real thrust of my comment, that a correct understanding on non conformity is that it has no standard. What you were describing, I think, was reactionism, backlash, or contrariness not non-conformity. Non conformity is a judgment call made externally and by others to categorize a preexisting act of will made withour reference to standards, sort of soliopsistically.
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