Top Jeb Bush adviser leaves GOP, will vote for Clinton if Florida close

Meghan54

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Jeb Bush's top adviser, Sally Bradshaw, has left the Republican Party to become an independent, and says if the presidential race in Florida is close, she'll vote for Hillary Clinton.

Bradshaw, who's been close to the former Florida governor for decades and was senior adviser to his 2016 campaign, officially switched her registration to unaffiliated. She told CNN's Jamie Gangel in an email interview that the GOP is "at a crossroads and have nominated a total narcissist -- a misogynist -- a bigot."

"This is a time when country has to take priority over political parties. Donald Trump cannot be elected president," Bradshaw said.


The departure from the Republican Party of a Bush loyalist -- Bradshaw began her career working for George H.W. Bush's 1988 campaign -- is the latest sign of an influential and respected member of the GOP establishment turning against Trump.

"This election cycle is a test," Bradshaw said. "As much as I don't want another four years of (President Barack) Obama's policies, I can't look my children in the eye and tell them I voted for Donald Trump. I can't tell them to love their neighbor and treat others the way they wanted to be treated, and then vote for Donald Trump. I won't do it."


Rats deserting a sinking ship.....?
 

PokerGuy

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Good riddance to the scum. I can see not voting for Trump, but nobody even remotely conservative or interested in good governance would choose to vote for hildebeast.
 

z1ggy

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Good riddance to the scum. I can see not voting for Trump, but nobody even remotely conservative or interested in good governance would choose to vote for hildebeast.

Her point is, she's picking the turd sandwich over the giant douche. If everybody who doesn't just like donald trump simply doesn't vote, there's a very real chance he will win. Voting for that asshat Hillary is the only way to stop him from winning (sadly).
 

Matthiasa

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Good riddance to the scum. I can see not voting for Trump, but nobody even remotely conservative or interested in good governance would choose to vote for hildebeast.

Well conservative yes, but the requirement of "good governance" would pretty much would disqualify any individual who has ran for or became president in the past two to three decades at minimum. Not that it matters much given congress controls most of those actions anyways.
 

woolfe9998

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Good riddance to the scum. I can see not voting for Trump, but nobody even remotely conservative or interested in good governance would choose to vote for hildebeast.

You can call her scum, but people should vote their conscience, not along party lines. Based on Trump's past history, he could easily have turned out to be a democrat instead. If he was running as a dem, I guaranty you I would vote for any reasonable republican over him, including both Romney and McCain. This in spite of the fact that I disagree with the vast majority of their policy stances.

What you call "the hildebeast" isn't especially liberal. She's just barely center left. Even if she is as bad as Trump from an ethical standpoint, she is clearly more qualified than Trump to hold this office. Trump is a narcissistic man child who will literally wreck this county if elected. I have literally never felt this way about any prior GOP candidate. I respect anyone who crosses party lines on this because anyone who puts country over party deserves my respect.
 

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Good riddance to the scum. I can see not voting for Trump, but nobody even remotely conservative or interested in good governance would choose to vote for hildebeast.

That's delusional in a way that only Righties can be. It's not like the invasion of Iraq was good governance. Nor was the creation of a stain on our national honor, the prison at Gitmo. Nor was touting the ownership society from the bully pulpit while letting the financial sector run hog wild. Nor was holding extended UI hostage to tax cuts for the financial elite. Nor was nearly 8 years of near total obstructionism in Congress.

I could go on but you're basically a hopeless case mired in the mythos of an America that never was.
 
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Jhhnn

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You can call her scum, but people should vote their conscience, not along party lines. Based on Trump's past history, he could easily have turned out to be a democrat instead. If he was running as a dem, I guaranty you I would vote for any reasonable republican over him, including both Romney and McCain. This in spite of the fact that I disagree with the vast majority of their policy stances.

What you call "the hildebeast" isn't especially liberal. She's just barely center left. Even if she is as bad as Trump from an ethical standpoint, she is clearly more qualified than Trump to hold this office. Trump is a narcissistic man child who will literally wreck this county if elected. I have literally never felt this way about any prior GOP candidate. I respect anyone who crosses party lines on this because anyone who puts country over party deserves my respect.

Please. Trump would never have become the Democratic nominee slinging the shit that he has. No fucking way. He needed people whose best qualities have been turned cruelly against them by their leadership. He needed people blinded by decades of FUD. He needed a disaffected voting bloc with a leader cult mentality & he found it in the Repub Party.
 

kage69

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I find Poker's view a hell of a lot more scummy than hers. Look at the venom towards the possibility of voting for Hillary.

I don't care what party is in question; people voting with their conscious wrt to the issues instead of supporting this tribal, sports-like environment where people like Drumpf can get nominated is a good thing.
 
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Genx87

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Her point is, she's picking the turd sandwich over the giant douche. If everybody who doesn't just like donald trump simply doesn't vote, there's a very real chance he will win. Voting for that asshat Hillary is the only way to stop him from winning (sadly).

Or is it the giant douche over the turd sandwich?
 

Genx87

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Well conservative yes, but the requirement of "good governance" would pretty much would disqualify any individual who has ran for or became president in the past two to three decades at minimum. Not that it matters much given congress controls most of those actions anyways.

Funnily enough I think her husband was a pretty good president. The whole BJ thing was a stupid thing. But from a governance perspective felt he did a pretty solid job. Worked with the GOP to push through welfare reform and balance the budgets.
 

kage69

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Trump would never have become the Democratic nominee slinging the shit that he has. No fucking way. He needed people whose best qualities have been turned cruelly against them by their leadership. He needed people blinded by decades of FUD. He needed a disaffected voting bloc with a leader cult mentality & he found it in the Repub Party.

Spot on IMO.
 

Genx87

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Please. Trump would never have become the Democratic nominee slinging the shit that he has. No fucking way. He needed people whose best qualities have been turned cruelly against them by their leadership. He needed people blinded by decades of FUD. He needed a disaffected voting bloc with a leader cult mentality & he found it in the Repub Party.

Eh Trump and Sanders economic ideas aren't that far apart. Just Sanders wraps his economic nationalism that would destroy brown people in foreign lands in a nice msg for white middle class blue collar workers. While trump attacks those people directly. The results would be similar for those brown people if either were allowed to carry out their economic nationalist agenda.
 

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Eh Trump and Sanders economic ideas aren't that far apart. Just Sanders wraps his economic nationalism that would destroy brown people in foreign lands in a nice msg for white middle class blue collar workers. While trump attacks those people directly. The results would be similar for those brown people if either were allowed to carry out their economic nationalist agenda.

What a load of bullshit. Compare Bernie's tax plan with Trump's standard "Moar Trickledown!" tax plan.
 

Genx87

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What a load of bullshit. Compare Bernie's tax plan with Trump's standard "Moar Trickledown!" tax plan.

I noticed you totally ignored my msg and duhverted to tax plans. Tell us how Bernies economic nationalism would turn out different for brown people in foreign lands than Trumps.
 

1sikbITCH

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Good riddance to the scum. I can see not voting for Trump, but nobody even remotely conservative or interested in good governance would choose to vote for hildebeast.

I can see why conservatives would vote against Trump. Hillary will probably do less damage and she is a known quantity. Less recovery time and more easily containable. Gotta think long term because thinking short term leads to excessive drinking.
 

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In four years, you could get rid of Hillary. I am not sure you could get such a chance if Trump is elected.
 

Jhhnn

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I noticed you totally ignored my msg and duhverted to tax plans. Tell us how Bernies economic nationalism would turn out different for brown people in foreign lands than Trumps.

Your message was an attempt to establish false equivalency using an issue not mentioned in my post that you quoted.

Bernie's positions are not an issue in this election, not any more.

What the thread is about is one loyal Republican taking a look into their own heart & at their real values. She couldn't fit Trump into that. She's absolutely appalled by Trump's candidacy and by her former Party's nomination of him.

It's called an epiphany. More of the decent people in the Repub Party need to have one of their own.
 

1sikbITCH

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I noticed you totally ignored my msg and duhverted to tax plans. Tell us how Bernies economic nationalism would turn out different for brown people in foreign lands than Trumps.

From what I have seen so far, one will drop bombs on them and the other will have us all sending them 3 dollars a month.
 

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Good riddance to the scum. I can see not voting for Trump, but nobody even remotely conservative or interested in good governance would choose to vote for hildebeast.
People in NY were quite pleased with her when she was their senator. Very high ratings.
 

Jhhnn

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People in NY were quite pleased with her when she was their senator. Very high ratings.

NY isn't the real Murricuh. You know that.

There's also the Kenyan Muslim voodoo time warp mind control that Dems use to re-write history.

It's gotta be one or the other.
 

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This lady must not have been much of a conservative if she's willing to switch sides and vote for a corrupt liberal when her party offers a shitty candidate.

I might very well sit out this election, but I can't see any way that I could vote for Hillary. I know a lot of conservatives that are equally disgusted by Trump as they are by Hillary, but no way would they cast a ballot for Hillary.
 

theeedude

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Good riddance to the scum. I can see not voting for Trump, but nobody even remotely conservative or interested in good governance would choose to vote for hildebeast.

"Clinton" is a synonym for "conservative good governance."