Top Aide of Tom Reynolds resigns over involvement in Foley scandal

[Todd33]

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington gave the e-mails to the FBI monnths ago, you know back when the GOP leaders had them. Let us know when you have proof of any of your claims, we are getting tired of your conspircy theories.


Again you ignored my question, if the Dems had them too, what could they do with them that would have helped? Let me guess Soros, the DNC and CREW worked together and timed the release of info that no one had except the page and ABC. In the strange world of right wing wackos the Democrats are responsible for everything; maybe they even pretended to be a 17 year old page and lured poor little Foley into a trap years ago knowing it would help them in 2006, bwahahahahahaaaa.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
BTW: The source of the e-mails and IMs seems to be a group called C.R.E.W. which is a George Soros funded group, you know who George is right? The money behind moveon.org and Air America. So the idea that the release of this information was ?timed? to political damage is becoming more and more apparent. If these people are so worried about this poor innocent pages why didn?t they release the sexual IMs the second they got a hold of them?

And the group is also stocked full of ex-Clinton administration officials.

I smell something rotten.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
BTW: The source of the e-mails and IMs seems to be a group called C.R.E.W. which is a George Soros funded group, you know who George is right? The money behind moveon.org and Air America. So the idea that the release of this information was ?timed? to political damage is becoming more and more apparent. If these people are so worried about this poor innocent pages why didn?t they release the sexual IMs the second they got a hold of them?

And the group is also stocked full of ex-Clinton administration officials.

I smell something rotten.

On July 21, 2006 CREW received a set of emails, allegedly from Rep. Foley to a former House page, which it sent to the FBI later that day. The emails, posted at www.citizensforethics.org, asked the page, who had recently left the Hill, his age, how school was going and what he wanted for his birthday. Rep. Foley also requested the boy?s photograph.

http://www.citizensforethics.org/press/newsrelease.php?view=163

How does that jive with your theory? Is the FBI in on it? Is the house leadership in on it? You guys are idiots, sorry.

 

[shrumpage]

From my understanding, the emails were known about for some time, but there was nothing illegal about them or sexual in nature. No cause for alarm. The IMS didn't come to light in till recently, which were definately sexual in nature, and are quite damning.

Foley has resigned, which is only appropriate. His political career is now over.

No sexual contact has occured, and even if there had it would have be legal in Washington DC. My guess, there won't be any jail time - at the most he might get censured by congress.

If democrats were behind releasing the information to the press, it might back fire on them. No one is defending Foley's actions, looks like nothign illegal took place, besides basic damage control - the republicans aren't trying to this cover up.

It boilis down to a gay man trying to get invovled with a much younger gay man. Distasteful, yes. Illegal - not in DC.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Todd33

On July 21, 2006 CREW received a set of emails, allegedly from Rep. Foley to a former House page, which it sent to the FBI later that day. The emails, posted at www.citizensforethics.org, asked the page, who had recently left the Hill, his age, how school was going and what he wanted for his birthday. Rep. Foley also requested the boy?s photograph.

http://www.citizensforethics.org/press/newsrelease.php?view=163

How does that jive with your theory? Is the FBI in on it? Is the house leadership in on it? You guys are idiots, sorry.

that actually seems pretty innocuous compared to the IMs where foley is asking the guy if his cock is hard and how big it is.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Todd33

On July 21, 2006 CREW received a set of emails, allegedly from Rep. Foley to a former House page, which it sent to the FBI later that day. The emails, posted at www.citizensforethics.org, asked the page, who had recently left the Hill, his age, how school was going and what he wanted for his birthday. Rep. Foley also requested the boy?s photograph.

http://www.citizensforethics.org/press/newsrelease.php?view=163

How does that jive with your theory? Is the FBI in on it? Is the house leadership in on it? You guys are idiots, sorry.

that actually seems pretty innocuous compared to the IMs where foley is asking the guy if his cock is hard and how big it is.

I agree. However, is this statement true:

"?As a former prosecutor who handled sex crimes in the District of Columbia, the emails set off alarm bells. Grown men simply do not send emails requesting photographs to teenagers over whom they have had some degree of authority,? Melanie Sloan, executive director of CREW wrote today."

If alarm bells are the prober reaction then the seeming innocuousness is less relevant and an investigation still should have been undertaken, no?

But perhaps the alarm bells thingi is really all spin.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

The same GOP "hit man" who got Bill Clinton elected to govenor and President right?

Don't assume we are idiots, unlike the right wing blogs you frequent. He is a right wing hitman.

More recently, Morris has emerged as a harsh critic of the Clintons and has written several books that criticize them, including Rewriting History, a rebuttal to Senator Hillary Clinton's Living History.

often appearing on television talk shows such as Hannity & Colmes, the O'Reilly Factor, and various local and nationally syndicated radio talk shows.

Morris has appeared in the straight-to-DVD documentary FahrenHYPE 9/11, which offers an alternative viewpoint to Michael Moore's 2004 film, Fahrenheit 9/11. He also wrote the screenplay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Morris#Political_Consulting

But once again you ignore legitimate question and just deflect. So Prof (lol), assume Dems had the e-mails months ago, in your opinion what do they do with them? Shall I help you?

1. Release them to the media, looks like an election time hit job without the damning IMs it goes nowhere.

2. Tell the FBI, oops they knew already.

3. Tells the GOP leadership, oops they knew.

4. Launch an investigation, oops they have to power to do that.

5. Track down the pages and find more evidence. Maybe they did this and this is the outcome we have today, good for them, they saved us from a pedophile with power.

Of course you are an apologist for this guy, you have been spinning and deflecting since day one. In the main thread you make up at least 40% of the replies with your deflections. Hey prof don't blame the victim or messenger, blame the one who did the crime and those who tried to cover it up for power.

LOL, it hasn't even come out officially that any Democrats knew about this and you are already making excuses for them, yet you call someone else an apologist. Anyone that knew something about this and didn't do anything deserves to get nailed.

 

[chowderhead]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Ok, everyone agrees that Foley is scum, no disagreement at all on that point.

The story is no longer about what Foley did, but what, if any, cover up did the Republicans engage in.

The Democrats are questioning the follow:
1. When did Hastert know about the e-mails.
2. What did he do about them and why didn?t he dig deep enough?
3. Why didn?t they inform the Democrat on the House page board of these e-mails.

Now if the story comes out that a Democrat, any Democrat, knew about the e-mails AND
the sexual IMs, then why did that Democrat not do anything?

How can you accuse the Republicans of engaging in a cover up when a member of your own party had the same information and did nothing about it? If this turns out to be true then the Democrat who knew about sexual content of the IMs and did nothing will have a lot of explaining to do.

You may not like Dick Morris, but I have never known him to lie about something. Why would he ?create? a story like this and risk his reputation by stating it on national TV? Maybe he got some false information and the story is incorrect. I promise that the day Morris comes out and says that the story about a Democrat knowing was false I?ll be right here to apologize. (Read my posts, I?ve admitted to being wrong or making mistakes)

BTW: The source of the e-mails and IMs seems to be a group called C.R.E.W. which is a George Soros funded group, you know who George is right? The money behind moveon.org and Air America. So the idea that the release of this information was ?timed? to political damage is becoming more and more apparent. If these people are so worried about this poor innocent pages why didn?t they release the sexual IMs the second they got a hold of them?

We don't know that the Democrats, any Democrats knew of the IMs. Here is what Brian Ross of ABCNEWs has said about his sources of the emails and IMs.

?I hate to give up sources, but to the extent that I know the political parties of any of the people who helped us, it would be the same party,? Mr. Ross said, referring to Republicans.
Ross's sources

Here is what Ross has said about where he got the explicit IMs.
How did you first learn of this, Brian?

BRIAN ROSS, ABC NEWS CHIEF INVESTIGATIVE CORRESPONDENT: Well, Larry, it began with the instant messages coming over the website to us last Friday, prior to that we had received the e-mails, which were tamer, not sexually explicit at all. We asked Foley about them last Thursday. He said it's just a case of being overly friendly.

We posted that on the ABC News website, the Blotter, and within hours we heard from former pages who said, "Foley's not telling the truth. Would you like to see some instant messages?" And we got those and on Friday afternoon, Matty Souer (ph) of my staff called the Foley office. They called back an hour later and said, "He's going to resign."
Brian Ross on Larry King

Seems to be that Brian Ross posted the "over-friendly" emails on the ABCblog when MANY newspapers sat on the story with Foley's repsonse. Then some pages emailed him and gave him the IMs.

Everything else is speculation and wishful Republican spinning.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: JD50
LOL, it hasn't even come out officially that any Democrats knew about this and you are already making excuses for them, yet you call someone else an apologist. Anyone that knew something about this and didn't do anything deserves to get nailed.

They're obviously preparing for the bombs. Anyone who believes Dems knew nothing about this is beyond naive.

And I agree on the last point 100%.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Pabster

At any rate, I see this whole thing blowing up in the Dems face. There's 5 weeks left before the mid-terms, and I think we're going to uncover many Dems knew of this.

You would say that about any situation, without regard to the reality. In your short, prolific career here you have yet to show one scintilla of neutrality.

As another poster has ably pointed out, what would you have had the Democrats do? The FBI already knew about the same e-mails the Democrats supposedly (according to an unnamed reporter, quoted secondhand), and did nothing. It's become increasingly clear Dennis Hastert knew, and did nothing. The Democrats didn't have the votes to start an investigation. The fact of the matter is that they weren't the ones in control. Moreover, it's readily apparent that the Republicans, not the Democrats, are the ones who benefitted from what looks to have been a complete whitewash of the whole issue.

You have (contemptibly IMO) done everything possible to minimize what Foley did, and to deflect responsibility for his conduct onto people who have none. It's sickening.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: Pabster

At any rate, I see this whole thing blowing up in the Dems face. There's 5 weeks left before the mid-terms, and I think we're going to uncover many Dems knew of this.

You would say that about any situation, without regard to the reality. In your short, prolific career here you have yet to show one scintilla of neutrality.

As another poster has ably pointed out, what would you have had the Democrats do? The FBI already knew about the same e-mails the Democrats supposedly (according to an unnamed reporter, quoted secondhand), and did nothing. It's become increasingly clear Dennis Hastert knew, and did nothing. The Democrats didn't have the votes to start an investigation. The fact of the matter is that they weren't the ones in control. Moreover, it's readily apparent that the Republicans, not the Democrats, are the ones who benefitted from what looks to have been a complete whitewash of the whole issue.

You have (contemptibly IMO) done everything possible to minimize what Foley did, and to deflect responsibility for his conduct onto people who have none. It's sickening.

So your main excuse is that because the Democrats were not in control of Congress or that they couldn't start an investigation on their own that they shouldn't have to report a pedophile and possible child molestor? Ok, so if I know of some sicko that is molesting little kids I shouldn't say anything because I can't go start an investigation on my own?Thats the most retarded thing that I have ever heard (I used to be a cop so I have heard some pretty damn retarded things before). No one is minimizing what Foley did, he is a sicko, and so are the people that didn't out him. Keep in mind that I am not saying that Democrats knew about this (but I think that some of them had to of known) I am just very amused that you guys are trying to defend them before anything even comes out about it.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: JD50

So your main excuse is that because the Democrats were not in control of Congress or that they couldn't start an investigation on their own that they shouldn't have to report a pedophile and possible child molestor? Ok, so if I know of some sicko that is molesting little kids I shouldn't say anything because I can't go start an investigation on my own?Thats the most retarded thing that I have ever heard (I used to be a cop so I have heard some pretty damn retarded things before). No one is minimizing what Foley did, he is a sicko, and so are the people that didn't out him. Keep in mind that I am not saying that Democrats knew about this (but I think that some of them had to of known) I am just very amused that you guys are trying to defend them before anything even comes out about it.

Report him to whom? For what? The FBI was already aware of the same e-mails that the Democrats allegedly saw, which were inappropriate but not overtly sexual. Asking a teenager for his picture doesn't make a person a "sicko" (and my guess is that I have infinitely more experience with child molestors than you, having worked extensively with them in the courts). What kind of reporting could they reasonably have done (particularly given the huge risk of being smacked for libel if the allegations proved to be false)?

IF it develops that Democrats knew that Foley committed crimes against children, shame on them, but at this point that's sheer conjecture, and even if true, their culpability is, by definition, less than the Speaker's. By way of analogy, let's say you become aware a peer at work is stealing office supplies, but do nothing. This isn't laudable behavior, but it's not the same as if you were the office manager and did nothing to discipline the employee or protect the company, after becoming aware of the larceny.

 

[chowderhead]

where is the proof the Democrat knew of these emails let alone IMs. Seems like the Republican leadership kept it all to themselves as the third member (Shelley capito R-WV) of the House page board said she was not informed of the emails. The Democrat on that board is also on record saying he was not informed. Heather Wilson (R-NM) who previously served on the board back when this all allegedly happened said she was not informed. I posted the links to Brian Ross of ABCNews who broke the emails and IMs. He said pages saw the blog story and Foley's reponse to the news article about the overly-friendly emails and THEY sent Ross the IMs. This is all Republican spin and misdirection.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: JD50

So your main excuse is that because the Democrats were not in control of Congress or that they couldn't start an investigation on their own that they shouldn't have to report a pedophile and possible child molestor? Ok, so if I know of some sicko that is molesting little kids I shouldn't say anything because I can't go start an investigation on my own?Thats the most retarded thing that I have ever heard (I used to be a cop so I have heard some pretty damn retarded things before). No one is minimizing what Foley did, he is a sicko, and so are the people that didn't out him. Keep in mind that I am not saying that Democrats knew about this (but I think that some of them had to of known) I am just very amused that you guys are trying to defend them before anything even comes out about it.

Report him to whom? For what? The FBI was already aware of the same e-mails that the Democrats allegedly saw, which were inappropriate but not overtly sexual. Asking a teenager for his picture doesn't make a person a "sicko" (and my guess is that I have infinitely more experience with child molestors than you, having worked extensively with them in the courts). What kind of reporting could they reasonably have done (particularly given the huge risk of being smacked for libel if the allegations proved to be false)?

IF it develops that Democrats knew that Foley committed crimes against children, shame on them, but at this point that's sheer conjecture, and even if true, their culpability is, by definition, less than the Speaker's. By way of analogy, let's say you become aware a peer at work is stealing office supplies, but do nothing. This isn't laudable behavior, but it's not the same as if you were the office manager and did nothing to discipline the employee or protect the company, after becoming aware of the larceny.

That is a poor analogy, mainly because petty theft and child molestation are a little different. I am talking about the safety and well being of the child. I don't care if you are the janitor or the speaker of the house, if you have reason to believe that some sicko is trying to get little teenage boys in bed then you need to come forward.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: JD50
Keep in mind that I am not saying that Democrats knew about this (but I think that some of them had to of known) I am just very amused that you guys are trying to defend them before anything even comes out about it.

Hell, I think Bush must have known too!

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: chowderhead
where is the proof the Democrat knew of these emails let alone IMs. Seems like the Republican leadership kept it all to themselves as the third member (Shelley capito R-WV) of the House page board said she was not informed of the emails. The Democrat on that board is also on record saying he was not informed. Heather Wilson (R-NM) who previously served on the board back when this all allegedly happened said she was not informed. I posted the links to Brian Ross of ABCNews who broke the emails and IMs. He said pages saw the blog story and Foley's reponse to the news article about the overly-friendly emails and THEY sent Ross the IMs. This is all Republican spin and misdirection.

Well I guess if they said that they knew nothing about it it must be true right? "I did not have sex with that woman" sound familiar? The only reason I threw that in there is to see you Clinton apoligists throw a fit.

Anyways, I'm not sure if you were responding to me, but like I stated several times in my posts, I was not implying that the Democrats knew anything about it.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: JD50
Keep in mind that I am not saying that Democrats knew about this (but I think that some of them had to of known) I am just very amused that you guys are trying to defend them before anything even comes out about it.

Hell, I think Bush must have known too!

Bush was the mastermind behind all of it, although it was hard for him to find time in between the whole global warming thing he is responsible for and lowering the gas prices just before the elections to get votes.

 

[International Machine Consortium]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Let the truth come out.

Have you forgotten that at the center of "the truth" is a young man who is probably utterly mortified that these embarrassing conversations are being widely broadcast? Everyone at his school and home town are going to know it is him at the center of the scandal. What is that going to do for his mental health?

How about their mental health in trying to be seduced by this man? Assault by a gay man on boys is not OK.

What about sexual assault on boys by a heterosexual man, is that OK?

Absolutely not, obviously. WTF is that supposed to mean? I have children, fool. You think I would think it OK for ANYone to rape, hustle, seduce, harass my children? Start making sense....

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: JD50

That is a poor analogy, mainly because petty theft and child molestation are a little different. I am talking about the safety and well being of the child. I don't care if you are the janitor or the speaker of the house, if you have reason to believe that some sicko is trying to get little teenage boys in bed then you need to come forward.

At this point there is NO EVIDENCE ANY DEMOCRAT KNEW ABOUT ANY ASPECT OF THIS CASE. Moreover, the only thing they might allegedly have known about was benign e-mails to a former page saying hi, asking him how he was doing, and asking him to send a picture. Nobody has alleged that the Democrats knew about any sexually-oriented materials. There was nothing even borderline criminal in what they allegedly knew about (the same reason the FBI did nothing with this information). Essentially, you're saying that the Democrats should have become mind readers, yet you seem completely unbothered by the fact that the Speaker failed to act on the apparently much more complete information he had at his disposal. Your posts aren't even interesting partisan trolling . . .

 

[International Machine Consortium]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
BTW: The source of the e-mails and IMs seems to be a group called C.R.E.W. which is a George Soros funded group, you know who George is right? The money behind moveon.org and Air America. So the idea that the release of this information was ?timed? to political damage is becoming more and more apparent. If these people are so worried about this poor innocent pages why didn?t they release the sexual IMs the second they got a hold of them?

And the group is also stocked full of ex-Clinton administration officials.

I smell something rotten.

On July 21, 2006 CREW received a set of emails, allegedly from Rep. Foley to a former House page, which it sent to the FBI later that day. The emails, posted at www.citizensforethics.org, asked the page, who had recently left the Hill, his age, how school was going and what he wanted for his birthday. Rep. Foley also requested the boy?s photograph.

http://www.citizensforethics.org/press/newsrelease.php?view=163

How does that jive with your theory? Is the FBI in on it? Is the house leadership in on it? You guys are idiots, sorry.

You demean the good name of idiots everywhere.

 

[chowderhead]

Originally posted by: JD50


Well I guess if they said that they knew nothing about it it must be true right? "I did not have sex with that woman" sound familiar? The only reason I threw that in there is to see you Clinton apoligists throw a fit.

Anyways, I'm not sure if you were responding to me, but like I stated several times in my posts, I was not implying that the Democrats knew anything about it.

Originally posted by: JD50

Keep in mind that I am not saying that Democrats knew about this (but I think that some of them had to of known) I am just very amused that you guys are trying to defend them before anything even comes out about it.

You throw the charge out there so I think there should be some burden of proof.
Is the Republican defense? we didn't know ... but if we did, the Democrats knew as well?

 

[International Machine Consortium]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: JD50

So your main excuse is that because the Democrats were not in control of Congress or that they couldn't start an investigation on their own that they shouldn't have to report a pedophile and possible child molestor? Ok, so if I know of some sicko that is molesting little kids I shouldn't say anything because I can't go start an investigation on my own?Thats the most retarded thing that I have ever heard (I used to be a cop so I have heard some pretty damn retarded things before). No one is minimizing what Foley did, he is a sicko, and so are the people that didn't out him. Keep in mind that I am not saying that Democrats knew about this (but I think that some of them had to of known) I am just very amused that you guys are trying to defend them before anything even comes out about it.

Report him to whom? For what? The FBI was already aware of the same e-mails that the Democrats allegedly saw, which were inappropriate but not overtly sexual. Asking a teenager for his picture doesn't make a person a "sicko" (and my guess is that I have infinitely more experience with child molestors than you, having worked extensively with them in the courts). What kind of reporting could they reasonably have done (particularly given the huge risk of being smacked for libel if the allegations proved to be false)?

IF it develops that Democrats knew that Foley committed crimes against children, shame on them, but at this point that's sheer conjecture, and even if true, their culpability is, by definition, less than the Speaker's. By way of analogy, let's say you become aware a peer at work is stealing office supplies, but do nothing. This isn't laudable behavior, but it's not the same as if you were the office manager and did nothing to discipline the employee or protect the company, after becoming aware of the larceny.

That is a poor analogy, mainly because petty theft and child molestation are a little different. I am talking about the safety and well being of the child. I don't care if you are the janitor or the speaker of the house, if you have reason to believe that some sicko is trying to get little teenage boys in bed then you need to come forward.

Give it up, you are WAYYYYY out of your league. Seriously. It's painful to watch.

 

[International Machine Consortium]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: JD50

So your main excuse is that because the Democrats were not in control of Congress or that they couldn't start an investigation on their own that they shouldn't have to report a pedophile and possible child molestor? Ok, so if I know of some sicko that is molesting little kids I shouldn't say anything because I can't go start an investigation on my own?Thats the most retarded thing that I have ever heard (I used to be a cop so I have heard some pretty damn retarded things before). No one is minimizing what Foley did, he is a sicko, and so are the people that didn't out him. Keep in mind that I am not saying that Democrats knew about this (but I think that some of them had to of known) I am just very amused that you guys are trying to defend them before anything even comes out about it.

Report him to whom? For what? The FBI was already aware of the same e-mails that the Democrats allegedly saw, which were inappropriate but not overtly sexual. Asking a teenager for his picture doesn't make a person a "sicko" (and my guess is that I have infinitely more experience with child molestors than you, having worked extensively with them in the courts). What kind of reporting could they reasonably have done (particularly given the huge risk of being smacked for libel if the allegations proved to be false)?

IF it develops that Democrats knew that Foley committed crimes against children, shame on them, but at this point that's sheer conjecture, and even if true, their culpability is, by definition, less than the Speaker's. By way of analogy, let's say you become aware a peer at work is stealing office supplies, but do nothing. This isn't laudable behavior, but it's not the same as if you were the office manager and did nothing to discipline the employee or protect the company, after becoming aware of the larceny.

That is a poor analogy, mainly because petty theft and child molestation are a little different. I am talking about the safety and well being of the child. I don't care if you are the janitor or the speaker of the house, if you have reason to believe that some sicko is trying to get little teenage boys in bed then you need to come forward.

I'd like the links you've so far compiled proving the Democrats knew about this scumbag and participated in a coverup with the Republicans. That's what you're suggesting. So, you must have some links. Let's see them. If true I'll turn my anger on the Dems too. SHow me the proof.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: JD50

That is a poor analogy, mainly because petty theft and child molestation are a little different. I am talking about the safety and well being of the child. I don't care if you are the janitor or the speaker of the house, if you have reason to believe that some sicko is trying to get little teenage boys in bed then you need to come forward.

At this point there is NO EVIDENCE ANY DEMOCRAT KNEW ABOUT ANY ASPECT OF THIS CASE. Moreover, the only thing they might allegedly have known about was benign e-mails to a former page saying hi, asking him how he was doing, and asking him to send a picture. Nobody has alleged that the Democrats knew about any sexually-oriented materials. There was nothing even borderline criminal in what they allegedly knew about (the same reason the FBI did nothing with this information). Essentially, you're saying that the Democrats should have become mind readers, yet you seem completely unbothered by the fact that the Speaker failed to act on the apparently much more complete information he had at his disposal. Your posts aren't even interesting partisan trolling . . .

Obviously you have not read my posts. Quote where I defended anyone that knew anything about this and quote where I said that the Democrats knew something about this. As close as I got was saying that I think that someone in the Democratic party had to know something, but thats just my personal opinion. I started responding to this when you guys were already coming up with excuses before anything came out about Democrats know about this. Hell, I even said that exact same thing. I said several times that anyone that knew about this should be nailed and suffer severe penalties.

Once again, since you obviously don't read all of my posts, anyone that knew about this deserves to be punished. And I'll say this again for you too, I was merely responding the excuses that people were making for Democrats before anything even came out about them having any knowledge of this.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

The same GOP "hit man" who got Bill Clinton elected to govenor and President right?

Don't assume we are idiots, unlike the right wing blogs you frequent. He is a right wing hitman.

More recently, Morris has emerged as a harsh critic of the Clintons and has written several books that criticize them, including Rewriting History, a rebuttal to Senator Hillary Clinton's Living History.

often appearing on television talk shows such as Hannity & Colmes, the O'Reilly Factor, and various local and nationally syndicated radio talk shows.

Morris has appeared in the straight-to-DVD documentary FahrenHYPE 9/11, which offers an alternative viewpoint to Michael Moore's 2004 film, Fahrenheit 9/11. He also wrote the screenplay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Morris#Political_Consulting

But once again you ignore legitimate question and just deflect. So Prof (lol), assume Dems had the e-mails months ago, in your opinion what do they do with them? Shall I help you?

1. Release them to the media, looks like an election time hit job without the damning IMs it goes nowhere.

2. Tell the FBI, oops they knew already.

3. Tells the GOP leadership, oops they knew.

4. Launch an investigation, oops they have to power to do that.

5. Track down the pages and find more evidence. Maybe they did this and this is the outcome we have today, good for them, they saved us from a pedophile with power.

Of course you are an apologist for this guy, you have been spinning and deflecting since day one. In the main thread you make up at least 40% of the replies with your deflections. Hey prof don't blame the victim or messenger, blame the one who did the crime and those who tried to cover it up for power.

LOL, it hasn't even come out officially that any Democrats knew about this and you are already making excuses for them, yet you call someone else an apologist. Anyone that knew something about this and didn't do anything deserves to get nailed.

Wow, I'm really defending Hastert there aren't I?