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Top 10 Automakers worldwide of 2005

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: senseamp
Nissan > Honda. Didn't know that.

I'm more surprised that Hyundai-Kia sells more than Nissan and Honda. That's amazing in such little time.
Asia. Cheap cars. Lots of sales I assume.
And Peugot sell cars outside of the US ya know? And there is also a world outside the US that buys cars.

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Nissan > Honda. Didn't know that.

Hondas really big in the states and not so much outside it. Its most important market is America and Japan, their strategy for the rest of their world is fubared.
 
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Mucho
WOW, France has two in the top ten and UK Zero.

That's pretty good considering they don't sell anything in North America. Both companies have some neat cars, they would probably sell ok in Canada and certain parts of the US.

Renault and Peugeot/Citroen sold cars in the US until about 15 years ago, a little longer for Renault.
The main reasons why they pulled out of the US market was they couldn't distinguish themselves from the many, better choices. And parts were much more expensive than most of thier american or japanese counterparts.
You should also rememeber Renault owns a big chunk of Nissan.

oh, I know - my parents used to have a Renault 5 😀

But things have changed it seems, certainly the french cars of today because they are certainly some of the most visually distinguished ones. I don't know how reliable / good over all they are, but if they're holding their own in europe against other manufacturers, they're probably not bad.

On their site, they say they don't sell in the US/Canada because they don't make cars that meet regulations here. I'm curious to know what those are (after all, the EU has strict fuel and safety standards as well), but if they decide to re-enter the market, they'll probably do well here in Canada. As for the US...well, they'd have to stay out of certain parts, but they can still have some success.
 
Originally posted by: senseamp
Nissan > Honda. Didn't know that.


Nissan has rear wheel drive cars and trucks as well as V8's . Something Honda does not.
Honda was started as a small engine house and is still in that mindset. With gas as high as it is and there new Civic motors, I am sure they should have a great year.

Honda has the record for selling the most motorcycles of a single brand. Mind you they were like 50cc or so. I think it was called "The Cub"?

 
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: senseamp
Nissan > Honda. Didn't know that.

I'm more surprised that Hyundai-Kia sells more than Nissan and Honda. That's amazing in such little time.

It should be noted that Hyundai makes truck trailers. They also build a lot of chassis for other manufacturers (components of the Santa Fe have made their way into such things as the Porsche Cayenne and VW Toureg).

I'd be interested to find out what exactly constitutes a "vehicle".

It's passenger vehicles that are sold. It's not parts they make or commercial vehicles. It does include fleet vehicles if I remember correctly, but nothing like truck trailers.

Additonally, I think most of us "realize" there's more than just US sales. Honda and Nissan are established companies and I personally would have thought they sold more in Asian markets than Hyundai. It's not about lack of education on sales regions, it's just thinking the other two companies are much larger than Kia/Hyundai.
 
Honda hasn't been all that interested in huge volumes more interested in quality.
Which is why they hardly ever discount their vehicles even at yr end.
Lets see if they were serious about sales they would have offered a truck long before now. . .
 
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