Too hot ? isnt it???

[buddhika]

My sys is a p4 (psu- unbranded 350w)
2.4ghz prescott stock cooling, stock speed
256MB Ram
80Gb hard
CD rom
riva tnt2 32mb vga (my main vga now broken)

My problem is its temparature.

when turned on after few weeks, in bios (asus) it said
CPU 64'c & MB 39'c Fan 3600rpm

in win98 (idle)
CPU 55'c MB 39'c fan 3700rpm

in 98 (load)
CPU 70'c MB 42'c

1. isnt it too much ?? (i cant rember how it ran 2 months ago.)

2. software says 12v rail is actually getting 11.8v why ?

3. when i went for a cleanup the retailer taken off the processor and cleaned and reseated without thermal paste. is it ok?? (is this why this is happenning?)

4. what is the normal idle temp for a prescott 2.4 ??

5. why does bios shows more temp than in windows98 idle??


please reply as you can, waiting for a quick reply.
thanks.

 

[boomerang]

Get some thermal compound and apply it according to the directions. If he cleaned off the factory applied thermal material and did not reapply anything, he has done you a disservice.

 

[boomerang]

To answer your questions;

1) I build AMD systems usually, and would have to find the info at the Intel site, but, I would say you are at the high end of the temperature range.

2) This is entirely normal. I believe the specs are + or- 5%.

3) Don't return there. Find someone else.

4) I don't know, but the answer can be found at the Intel site.

5) When in the BIOS, the CPU is actually stressed harder than when at idle in the OS. At least that is what I have read.

 

[stevty2889]

software monitoring of voltages is not accurate, and there is also a 5% tolerance, so 12v @ 11.8v is nothing to worry about. Your temps are definatly too high. Throttling kicks in at 72c, and you are very close to that. If they did not put on any thermal compound, then thats the problem. It is a neccessity.

 

[mwmorph]

you run a presscott, these temps are normal.

 

[chilled]

Originally posted by: boomerang
Get some thermal compound and apply it according to the directions. If he cleaned off the factory applied thermal material and did not reapply anything, he has done you a disservice.

qft

 

[buddhika]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
you run a presscott, these temps are normal.

why you think its normal when all others says it too much ??

thanka

 

[jimmypage13]

Originally posted by: buddhika

Originally posted by: mwmorph
you run a presscott, these temps are normal.

why you think its normal when all others says it too much ??

thanka

its normal, I have a presscott

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: buddhika

Originally posted by: mwmorph
you run a presscott, these temps are normal.

why you think its normal when all others says it too much ??

thanka

prescotts run hot usually and really in many underventilated cases, the heat rises fairly high. I dont know how well vented your case is, but if it doesnt have a side cpu intake and enough exhaust fans, it can easily overheat to this level, thermal mateiral or not.

This is a article about a p4 prescott 3.6(560) with a stock intel boxed cooler in a very well ventilated chasis(if you download the videro, you see 2 exhaust, 1 intake and 1 side panel fan.)

My friend has a prescott 3.2 in a Dell xps case and it overheats all the time even with all the ventilation dell put into it.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2004/11/14/the_p4/

are you sure there is no thermal coumpound though, or is it just very thin like a haze(which is normal, and in fact is how you should apply good thermal paste)? If there isnt any, i'd think it would run much higher.

and here
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/article/1693/

Our 3.4GHz Pentium 4 processor came with the official Intel reference heatsink, which is rather large, and also rather noisy at high speeds. It managed to keep our 3.4GHz Pentium 4 processor below 60 degrees celcius in our testbed though, without running at full speed all the time. Unfortunately our testbed is far from how a processor would normally be used, as it is always operated with the cover off, with plenty of case ventilation. Thus we decided to try this new processor in a typical work environment, a mid-tower case with all the lids in place and fastened securely. It then quickly became apparent that the Prescott was already idling at over 50 degrees Celsius, which meant the fan was spinning at full speed most of the time. But that wasn?t all; by stressing the processor to 90?100% usage the temperature continued to rise above 60 degrees Celsius and finally settled at 69 degrees Celsius.

 

[halw]

Am running a Prescott 3.0 in an Antec Sonata case. Idle is between 47 and 49c.

 

[jimmypage13]

mine idle at 44 a goes up to 72C on full load

 

[buddhika]

my pc isnot OCed

how to know theres no thermal compound|? can i take off heatsink and look?
if there is will i have to paste Thermal com again because i lifted hsf ??

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: buddhika
my pc isnot OCed

how to know theres no thermal compound|? can i take off heatsink and look?
if there is will i have to paste Thermal com again because i lifted hsf ??

yes remove the heatsink/fan and look if there si some, just put it back on again, no need ot reapply.

 

[buddhika]

i looked for thermal c. on cpu. but there wasnt any.

1. there was a thin sticker on the stock heatsink (on the face that contact with cpu).
is it any other kind of thermal c.? (i think it is a processor in a box - prescott 2.4ghz)

2. does it want thermal compound??

 

[mwmorph]

rhe sticker looks like this right(can be a different color but generalyl looks like this in shape/form
http://images.tomshardware.com/2004/11/14/the_p4/cooler_boxed_back.jpg

that is a thermal pad. works the same, easier to apply, generally 1 time use only. you probably need to buy some coumpound and put some on now after removing the thermal pad since it;s been damaged by the removal probably. Thermal stickers/pads are much easier to apply, thermal paste can be reseated.

 

[foodfightr]

doesnt sound too hot for a pentium

 

[jimmypage13]

Originally posted by: foodfightr
doesnt sound too hot for a pentium

its true, your temps are normal, dont freak out

 

[stevty2889]

Yes, P4 prescotts run hot, but if you are hitting over 70c and close to throttling at stock speeds, then something is wrong. Especialy for a 2.4 with no hyperthreading. And if you start throttling, you lose a huge amount of performance.