Tons of Pets being put down because the owners won't pay nine dollars

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CHfan4ever

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Hey guys, im not living around that place.But PLEASE, im sure there is a generous heart here who can give 9 dollars to save these animals.

There is a phone number you can call at the end of the article.Plz do it.Ill have a better day.


Fvckin bastard...give up pet for 9$...
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: SchrodingersDog
What if the strays were never fed by these people? What if these people just released the strays in some other part of town? Wouldn't they just breed for a while and then end up at the same shelter and meet the same fate as if the person that was feeding them took them there? There is a problem with strays breeding, at least these people are taking the animals to the shelter. If you're outraged by this story, how many strays have you picked up and paid to neuter?

Two. I have two dogs that I rescued from the Shelter, and both are vaccinated, get preventative vet care, and are fixed. I might get a third once I get my fence put up. I had another fence company out today to give me an estimate on a wooden privacy fence so my dogs can get more exercise time and spend more time outside. My mother rescued 3 cats as well and they are fixed and get good vet care. Two are on fairly expensive drugs to regulate their thyroid, and they have tons of toys, plenty of food, water, and love. My dogs are the same way. They have tons of toys, two kennels, plenty of food and treats, and I'm building them a helluva fence, and going to put two nicely insulated dog houses out there. They will still spend a majority of their time inside sleeping on the bed with me, but they can go and come as they please.

I had to take Sienna(my girl dog) to the Emergency Vet last night at 11PM, and I had to pay out the ass for her bills because she had rectal bleeding and bloody stool. I did this knowing I had to bet on the other side of town at 4am to take my Grandfather to the Hospital for a Colonoscopy. I haven't had a bit of sleep i n the past day(never got to sleep last night), and I have class at 7PM. Don't question my motives or accuse me of not helping the problem. I care for my pets and do everything I can to help other pets(I donate to the Birmingham Humane society as often as I can, and I sent them 50 dollars this past month). Both of my pet's adoptions fees also had donation money included.

My cousin has 3 Weimaraners that he rescued that used to be partially mine as well when we lived together. All of us get our animals vaccinated, and get plenty of medical care -- even at the slightest hint of trouble.

These people are taking the animals to the shelters to feel "ok" about abandoning their Pet. That is some fvcked up moral relativism if you ask me. 9 freaking dollars!
 

KK

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Originally posted by: ifesfor
Hey guys, im not living around that place.But PLEASE, im sure there is a generous heart here who can give 9 dollars to save these animals.

There is a phone number you can call at the end of the article.Plz do it.Ill have a better day.


Fvckin bastard...give up pet for 9$...

Think about it, what will giving nine dollars accomplish? Same owner, right? I'd give nine dollars only if it had a stipulation that the owner be neutered.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Find me a vet that only will charge $9 for a rabies shot. Every vet I've ever gone to will charge at least $35-$40 for an "Exam" to make sure the animal is OK before they will give it a shot. Vets are some of the biggest scam artists around. They charge double what it really costs them for medications and such (Ever to go petmeds.com). They rape you on exam and surgery fees, and half the time they don't even care about the animals.

Believe what you want, but the article clearly states that over 4,000 were vaccinated at 9 dollars, and the Shelter was doing Friday vaccinations at 10 dollars a pop. This wasn't a random crackdown that people got caught off-guard by, it was in all forms of Media for WEEKS before it happened, and it mentioned locations, times, and cost to get their animals their vaccination.

They rape you on exam and surgery fees, and half the time they don't even care about the animals.

The vet I go to is an honest place that is very family oriented. Even if they are "overcharging" for medicine and exams, I am still doing the right thing by treating my pet right. Justify it how you want, but Vet School isn't cheap, neither is upkeep of a facility and staff.

It is worse to feed a pet and give it a happy existance, and then fvck it over and put it in a shelter. You prevented someone else from having a chance to adopt it or pick it up as a stray. How hard is it to put "Free to a good home" on a grocery store bulletin board or at the local vet? Most newspapers have free classifieds for free items(including pets) as well. It isn't a logical thing, it is these people and you rationalizing their thinking and their actions by harming an innocent creature. That's fvcked up and you know it.
 

miniMUNCH

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People are dying due to genocide in Africa and your throwing a fvcking hissy fit because a couple of stray animals are knocked off.

Nice.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: ifesfor
Hey guys, im not living around that place.But PLEASE, im sure there is a generous heart here who can give 9 dollars to save these animals.

There is a phone number you can call at the end of the article.Plz do it.Ill have a better day.


Fvckin bastard...give up pet for 9$...

Think about it, what will giving nine dollars accomplish? Same owner, right? I'd give nine dollars only if it had a stipulation that the owner be neutered.

I see your point. If they owner wouldn't pay nine bucks, then I pretty much bet the Pet didn't get the love and treatment it needed. Animal cruelty laws aren't enforced nearly enough, and neither is simple logic. Unless you are breeding animals for show or purebreds get them fixed! Lots of places offer discounted spay/neuter clinics as well.
 

rh71

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we've been paying $150 annually for the collection of shots our dog needs. Only this year did I find out the shelter does the rabies vaccination (only one of a handful of shots needed) for free. But there's more costs.

Just because the clinic claims $9 for 1 shot doesn't mean that's all that is necessary, annually. EDIT>> see here.

Still, if you have a pet, you should care for it through and through... not give it up simply because of annual fees.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
People are dying due to genocide in Africa and your throwing a fvcking hissy fit because a couple of stray animals are knocked off.

Nice.

And pets aren't attacking food convoys either. :roll: You can't *fix* every problem in the world, you know. Besides, how much did you donate to the Tsunami victims? I hate for this to be a pissing contest, but I gave and so did my parents. Don't act as if I'm some holier than thou jerk who bitches and moans and then does nothing about things. I helped out as much as I could. Fact is, there is a lot of crap that prevents people in Africa and other areas from getting much needed food and medicine. You have a lot of war and rebellion that diverts the supplies and/or attacks the convoys carrying it. You have a lot of racial genocide and apathy as well, and you cannot FORCE people to take you charity. Animals aren't like that.

Africa is a huge problem, but a lot is being done to help those people. It isn't from lack of trying that they are starving, but due to the logistical nightmare that many places going through rebellion are. You have warlords and dictators living like Kings while the average person starves. You try to send them aid and it gets diverted or attacked. It isn't for any lack of trying or compassion. Don't compare the two.

This is just more rationalization. There is a huge homeless problem in Urban America, but only so much can be done. I could rationalize and ask why we don't end our homeless problem before helping Africa, but that is not how I am. Every cause and every purpose has its ardent supporters. You can't help everyone and everything. You pick a cause and you stick with it, because spreading yourself thin isn't always the best option. You can call that rationalization on my part, but I've donated plenty to charity over the years. This is just something I feel the strongest about.
 

GasX

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Fixing animals is an even bigger problem. Many shelters in the Northeast get many of their dogs not from locals but from a pseudo underground railroad of people rescuing pets from Southern shelters. WHY? Because people in the south (not everywhere, but enough states that this is an issue) don't fix ther pets EVER and there is a huge stray problem. The shelters kill horrifying numbers of animals because none of them are fixed and people just don't fvcking care...

FIX YOUR PET!
 

Vic

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You misread the article, Mill. It's not pet owners who are doing the killing, it's the Shelby County Humane Society that's on the wanton killing spree, particularly of strays. Learn to read between the media propaganda BS, eh?
 

miniMUNCH

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
People are dying due to genocide in Africa and your throwing a fvcking hissy fit because a couple of stray animals are knocked off.

Nice.

And pets aren't attacking food convoys either. :roll: You can't *fix* every problem in the world, you know. Besides, how much did you donate to the Tsunami victims? I hate for this to be a pissing contest, but I gave and so did my parents. Don't act as if I'm some holier than thou jerk who bitches and moans and then does nothing about things. I helped out as much as I could. Fact is, there is a lot of crap that prevents people in Africa and other areas from getting much needed food and medicine. You have a lot of war and rebellion that diverts the supplies and/or attacks the convoys carrying it. You have a lot of racial genocide and apathy as well, and you cannot FORCE people to take you charity. Animals aren't like that.

Africa is a huge problem, but a lot is being done to help those people. It isn't from lack of trying that they are starving, but due to the logistical nightmare that many places going through rebellion are. You have warlords and dictators living like Kings while the average person starves. You try to send them aid and it gets diverted or attacked. It isn't for any lack of trying or compassion. Don't compare the two.

This is just more rationalization. There is a huge homeless problem in Urban America, but only so much can be done. I could rationalize and ask why we don't end our homeless problem before helping Africa, but that is not how I am. Every cause and every purpose has its ardent supporters. You can't help everyone and everything. You pick a cause and you stick with it, because spreading yourself thin isn't always the best option. You can call that rationalization on my part, but I've donated plenty to charity over the years. This is just something I feel the strongest about.

I am a poor grad student. I am married and expecting a child in May...my wife and I make a combined $24,000 a year...soon my wife will stop working completely and we then only have $21,000 a year. I gave over $2000 to charity last year and will probably do about 1800-2000 dollars next year because that is just the way I am.

Maybe I came off a bit harsh with my initial statement, and I apologize, but the message is this: perspective...a few animals being put to sleep in a humane fashion is among the least of our problems. But I agree with your entire response...why not concentrate on the preservation of endangered species?
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Vic
You misread the article, Mill. It's not pet owners who are doing the killing, it's the Shelby County Humane Society that's on the wanton killing spree, particularly of strays. Learn to read between the media propaganda BS, eh?

Vic, please. Of course the Humane Society is putting the animals down, they can't feed them all and shelter them all. They can only *hope* to adopt out those that create a connection with someone who is there to find a pet. It isn't propaganda, and I resent that you'd be that patronizing to me. You are putting the chicken before the egg here, because it those people would have paid for the vaccination there wouldn't be as many animals at the shelter. It isn't the fault of the shelter that the animals have to be put down, it is the fault of the people who refused to fulfill their obligations to protect public health and the health of their pet. Read between the lines? How about you stop trying to project society's ills onto the media, because they merely reported the truth. Emotional? Sure. Propaganda and bias? Hell no.

You are ignoring the whole idea that -- one of the richest counties in the Nation -- one of the richest in Alabama -- has residents that are so morally bankrupt that they can't pay NINE dollars to protect the innocent life of a PET that THEY made an obligation to.

The whole idea behind a Humane Society(allow me to be patronizing for a bit) is to provide those strays with a humane death rather than to starve to death or get hit by car. They can only take so many, they are bound by their financial limitations and the logistics of housing and feeding thousands of animals. They try to adopt as many as they can, and the rest unfortunately are euthanized. Most of the people that work there do so for free.

Don't blame the Humane Society, blame the fvcking greedy assholes that won't pay 9 dollars. Not can't -- won't.
 

theGlove

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I don't like pets in the first place. Hope most of them that were killed were pit bulls and such lol
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Vic
You misread the article, Mill. It's not pet owners who are doing the killing, it's the Shelby County Humane Society that's on the wanton killing spree, particularly of strays. Learn to read between the media propaganda BS, eh?
Vic, please. Of course the Humane Society is putting the animals down, they can't feed them all and shelter them all. They can only *hope* to adopt out those that create a connection with someone who is there to find a pet. It isn't propaganda, and I resent that you'd be that patronizing to me. You are putting the chicken before the egg here, because it those people would have paid for the vaccination there wouldn't be as many animals at the shelter. It isn't the fault of the shelter that the animals have to be put down, it is the fault of the people who refused to fulfill their obligations to protect public health and the health of their pet. Read between the lines? How about you stop trying to project society's ills onto the media, because they merely reported the truth. Emotional? Sure. Propaganda and bias? Hell no.

You are ignoring the whole idea that -- one of the richest counties in the Nation -- one of the richest in Alabama -- has residents that are so morally bankrupt that they can't pay NINE dollars to protect the innocent life of a PET that THEY made an obligation to.

The whole idea behind a Humane Society(allow me to be patronizing for a bit) is to provide those strays with a humane death rather than to starve to death or get hit by car. They can only take so many, they are bound by their financial limitations and the logistics of housing and feeding thousands of animals. They try to adopt as many as they can, and the rest unfortunately are euthanized. Most of the people that work there do so for free.

Don't blame the Humane Society, blame the fvcking greedy assholes that won't pay 9 dollars. Not can't -- won't.
"Humane" Societies generally are funded by county tax dollars. I'm willing to wager that it costs more for the animals to be euthanized than it would for them to give the animals the rabies shot.
I'll say it again, it's not the people killing their pets, it's the "Humane" Society that is doing the killing.
 

Mill

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Vic
You misread the article, Mill. It's not pet owners who are doing the killing, it's the Shelby County Humane Society that's on the wanton killing spree, particularly of strays. Learn to read between the media propaganda BS, eh?
Vic, please. Of course the Humane Society is putting the animals down, they can't feed them all and shelter them all. They can only *hope* to adopt out those that create a connection with someone who is there to find a pet. It isn't propaganda, and I resent that you'd be that patronizing to me. You are putting the chicken before the egg here, because it those people would have paid for the vaccination there wouldn't be as many animals at the shelter. It isn't the fault of the shelter that the animals have to be put down, it is the fault of the people who refused to fulfill their obligations to protect public health and the health of their pet. Read between the lines? How about you stop trying to project society's ills onto the media, because they merely reported the truth. Emotional? Sure. Propaganda and bias? Hell no.

You are ignoring the whole idea that -- one of the richest counties in the Nation -- one of the richest in Alabama -- has residents that are so morally bankrupt that they can't pay NINE dollars to protect the innocent life of a PET that THEY made an obligation to.

The whole idea behind a Humane Society(allow me to be patronizing for a bit) is to provide those strays with a humane death rather than to starve to death or get hit by car. They can only take so many, they are bound by their financial limitations and the logistics of housing and feeding thousands of animals. They try to adopt as many as they can, and the rest unfortunately are euthanized. Most of the people that work there do so for free.

Don't blame the Humane Society, blame the fvcking greedy assholes that won't pay 9 dollars. Not can't -- won't.
"Humane" Societies generally are funded by county tax dollars. I'm willing to wager that it costs more for the animals to be euthanized than it would for them to give the animals the rabies shot.
I'll say it again, it's not the people killing their pets, it's the "Humane" Society that is doing the killing.

Again, you are deliberately shading the actual truth, and ignoring the cause and effect. If a man gets stung by a bee and he is allergic, did the bee kill him or was it the resulting anaphylaxis and histamine reaction? One would not have happened without the other, so at best your deliberate shading of the truth is nothing more than a ruse.

So what if it costs more or if it is funded by county tax dollars? Yeah, once you add in the cost of food and living expenses I'm sure it does cost more. However, again you are being very shady with the truth. Once the animal is there -- they'd still have to adopt it back out, and even if the gave away "free" rabies shots, how many people would even go? It wasn't just money that was the issue -- hardly -- considering the wealth of the county, it was an issue of not giving a goddamn and not wanting to waste their precious time.

I actually called them and asked if they received County money, and I was told they do. She didn't have a specific figure, but gave me the Director's e-mail address to find out. I bet you, and I am very sure of this, that at least 80% of their Operating Money is from private and/or corporate donations and people volunteering supplies and their time. Any money the County gives is to protect Public Health -- they are the modern day "dogcatcher" so to speak. You can almost bet that the County doesn't have its own Animal Control shelter, but drops them off at the Humane Society. Regardless of that, you are being very loose with the truth and ignoring cause and effect. Why? I don't know. Perhaps a rationalization for a past action, because you are normally a decent guy and all. I'm not sure why you are playing Devil's Advocate here, or if you are testing the strengths of my convictions.

I'm all for no-kill shelters, but sadly they aren't logical in this day and age. Most no-kill shelters require a community effort and public funding, and sadly it appears people in THAT county don't care enough as it is.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
People are dying due to genocide in Africa and your throwing a fvcking hissy fit because a couple of stray animals are knocked off.

Nice.

And pets aren't attacking food convoys either. :roll: You can't *fix* every problem in the world, you know. Besides, how much did you donate to the Tsunami victims? I hate for this to be a pissing contest, but I gave and so did my parents. Don't act as if I'm some holier than thou jerk who bitches and moans and then does nothing about things. I helped out as much as I could. Fact is, there is a lot of crap that prevents people in Africa and other areas from getting much needed food and medicine. You have a lot of war and rebellion that diverts the supplies and/or attacks the convoys carrying it. You have a lot of racial genocide and apathy as well, and you cannot FORCE people to take you charity. Animals aren't like that.

Africa is a huge problem, but a lot is being done to help those people. It isn't from lack of trying that they are starving, but due to the logistical nightmare that many places going through rebellion are. You have warlords and dictators living like Kings while the average person starves. You try to send them aid and it gets diverted or attacked. It isn't for any lack of trying or compassion. Don't compare the two.

This is just more rationalization. There is a huge homeless problem in Urban America, but only so much can be done. I could rationalize and ask why we don't end our homeless problem before helping Africa, but that is not how I am. Every cause and every purpose has its ardent supporters. You can't help everyone and everything. You pick a cause and you stick with it, because spreading yourself thin isn't always the best option. You can call that rationalization on my part, but I've donated plenty to charity over the years. This is just something I feel the strongest about.

I am a poor grad student. I am married and expecting a child in May...my wife and I make a combined $24,000 a year...soon my wife will stop working completely and we then only have $21,000 a year. I gave over $2000 to charity last year and will probably do about 1800-2000 dollars next year because that is just the way I am.

Maybe I came off a bit harsh with my initial statement, and I apologize, but the message is this: perspective...a few animals being put to sleep in a humane fashion is among the least of our problems. But I agree with your entire response...why not concentrate on the preservation of endangered species?

What appeals to human emotion is subjective. You may find the preservation of endangered species to be your flashpoint, and this happens to be mine.