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Tonight's Episode Of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles [12-15-2008]...
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I'm looking forward to this episode. The past couple have been too soap-opery (sp?). I hope they get rid of Riley as well - more action, more destruction and more future sequences!
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I really don't like that the bad Terminator (forget his previous name...now John Henry) is part of Skynet. There's a lot of scientific inaccuracies regarding time travel I can overlook but to make a Terminator from the future part of Skynet is a little dumb.
Good episode. Gotta wait 2 months for the next one, damn.
Wish they added more detail to the Riley backstory though. And ya, so she likes the ladies huh.
Wish they added more detail to the Riley backstory though. And ya, so she likes the ladies huh.
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pretty kickass storyline episode. but damn now we've got a long wait.
are we supposed to take the final image as a sign that the place there was somehow involved in making the HKs?
so we see when jesse came back giving us the story of riley, but how did she just walk into some apartment room? i thought the resistance groups that came back lived fairly lowkey off the grid like his uncles group that was stationed out of the abandoned building.
are we supposed to take the final image as a sign that the place there was somehow involved in making the HKs?
so we see when jesse came back giving us the story of riley, but how did she just walk into some apartment room? i thought the resistance groups that came back lived fairly lowkey off the grid like his uncles group that was stationed out of the abandoned building.
Maybe they hit a safe house for money and clothes (that perfectly fit and are stylish) before buying a hotel room.
I'm not sure if that was a sign of the HK facility. It looked like another of Sarah's crackheaded dreams. Cameron saw her own 3 dots.
I wonder where the metal came from though. The most reasonable explanation would be from Terminator 1. The arm and chip went to Cyberdyne, there's no way they just dumped the rest into the dumpster.
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Well, it's obvious that the chick from Garbage is working on creating the AI of Skynet but she is a terminator and so is John Henry who is now the manifestation of the John Henry AI. If Skynet was responsible for creating the terminators how can the terminators go back in time and create Skynet? You can't go back in time and become your own father.
I know I'm thinking about this too hard but it's past the point of suspension of disbelief imho.
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I honestly dunno, to make it a more efficient killer? But she is definitely a terminator, she has done the liquid metal thing like the T-1000 in T2. I'm working under the assumption that she was sent back to make sure Skynet gets created or something like that. Remember her "husband" died? I'm guessing that she actually died as well and the terminator took over her role and is impersonating the dead woman. Remember the episode with her daughter?
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This doesn't necessarily answer my original question but it talked a good bit about the T-1001/chick from Garbage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-1000#Television
A new T-1001 liquid-metal terminator[2] is introduced in the TV series, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, under the guise of Catherine Weaver (Shirley Manson), the co-founder and current CEO of ZeiraCorp, looking to develop the artificial intelligence that is believed to eventually become Skynet under the project: "Babylon". The T-1001 frequently quotes from the Bible and speaks in metaphors. It has been shown to display emotions such as annoyance with staff members, however, the T-1001 is later shown at a photo shoot, adjusting its head in very precise increments when asked to turn, pleasing the photographer; however, it is unable to create a "warm" smile when asked, instead producing a very stiff expression. This is in stark contrast to Cameron Phillips and the T-888s who, although socially awkward, are capable of mimicking pleasant emotions as their missions require. The T-1001 learns to mimick affection by studying documentary footage of the Weavers being interviewed late in Catherine's pregnancy. So far, the T-1001 is shown to have the same morphing abilities as the T-1000, and has the ability to consume food.
The T-1001's mission is, thus far, wholly independent of the missions of the terminators attempting to assassinate the Connors. While John Connor has been within its reach at least once, it is too preoccupied to notice. As of yet, neither the T-1001 nor Sarah Connor appears to be aware of each other's existence. It is not yet known if the T-1001 is from a future timeline in which Sarah survived to 2008 or is, like Cameron Phillips, from a future timeline in which Sarah would have already died of cancer. As Catherine Weaver, the T-1001 either coincidentally or intentionally recruits individuals connected to the Connors to work for her at ZeiraCorp.
* When Mr. Walsh delivers the Turk chess computer to her in "Samson and Delilah", Weaver is not shown to be aware that he and Margos Sarkissian captured it from the Connors.
* In "The Tower is Tall But the Fall is Short", she hires John's psychologist, Dr. Boyd Sherman (portrayed by Dorian Harewood); first to treat Weaver's daughter Savannah (portrayed by Mackenzie Smith) for incontinence and defiance, and then (to his surprise) to analyze and assist the development of the child-like artificial intelligence system known as "Babylon". At one point, the T-1001 nearly encountered John Connor who was teaching Savannah to tie her shoelaces. Dr. Sherman names the Turk/Babylon computer "John Henry" and dies of hyperthermia when John Henry redirects the building's power from the climate control and security systems, in the episode "Strange Things Happen at the One Two Point".
* In the episode, "The Mousetrap", she recruits FBI Agent James Ellison to find and capture a Terminator in order to reverse engineer it; she and her late husband Lachlan Weaver blame a Terminator for a 2003 fatal commuter jet plane crash and she tempts Ellison with photographs of the cyborg secretly taken at the crash site, supposedly by Catherine's brother, an NTSB investigator. In the episode "Complications", Ellison delivers Cromartie's body to the T-1001 (as Weaver) after it was critically damaged by John's Terminator bodyguard Cameron Phillips, and advocates learning more about the 'robots' ironically in order to prevent Judgment Day. With Ellison's initial mission complete, she assigns him to replace Sherman as John Henry's mentor/tutor.
In the final scene of the episode, "Automatic for The People", the T-1001 is revealed to have also assumed the identity of Mr. Bradbury (Tommy Redmond Hicks), an executive of Automite Systems, who announces that his company has entered into a partnership with the owners of seven nuclear power plants to install automated systems in the plants' control rooms. Once in his automobile, he morphs into the Catherine Weaver shape before driving away. The episode contained the only example to date of a flesh-covered Terminator on the same mission as the T-1001; a T-8xx or similar Terminator assumed the guise of plant safety manager Carl Greenway to sabotage the plant and thus lead to automation.
The episode "Allison from Palmdale" shows Weaver's daughter Savannah, and implies that the T-1001 killed the real Catherine Weaver and her husband, making it look like the latter's fatal helicopter crash was the result of human error. Savannah is asked to be in a photographic shoot with her "mother", but refuses. The T-1001 annoyed, tells Savannah to sit with her. The child once again declines and runs off, leaving a puddle of urine where she was sitting. After Savannah tells psychologist Dr. Sherman that she wants her 'old mom back', the T-1001 is shown watching a video recorded before Savannah's birth, of the real Catherine Weaver and her husband, Lachlan, in order to learn to mimic her actions. It succeeds in this, gaining Savannah's affection.
Ellison turns to the T-1001 (as Weaver) when he is falsely (but reasonably) arrested and charged with a murder perpetrated by a Terminator duplicate in the episode, "Brothers of Nablus". Given the fanciful nature of what really happened, Weaver is the only person Ellison knows who will both believe his story and has the financial means to secure his bond. The T-1001 indeed resolves Ellison's situation, but not as Ellison had anticipated or is aware. Rather, it assumes the appearance of the lead detective and questions the witness again until the man reveals seeing the lighting flashes and energy bubble of the Ellison Terminator's arrival and the superhuman strength he possessed. With the witness shown to be a "crack-pot" and his testimony useless, the charges against Ellison are dropped. Although protecting Ellison is neither Cromartie's nor the T-1001's primary mission, the two are allied in doing so until Cromartie's "death", apparently unaware of each other.
To further John Henry's psychological advancement, Weaver's Babylon team connect 'his' servers to Cromartie's former endoskeleton, having repaired the T-888's head covering, as shown at the end of "Strange Things Happen at the One Two Point".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-1000#Television
A new T-1001 liquid-metal terminator[2] is introduced in the TV series, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, under the guise of Catherine Weaver (Shirley Manson), the co-founder and current CEO of ZeiraCorp, looking to develop the artificial intelligence that is believed to eventually become Skynet under the project: "Babylon". The T-1001 frequently quotes from the Bible and speaks in metaphors. It has been shown to display emotions such as annoyance with staff members, however, the T-1001 is later shown at a photo shoot, adjusting its head in very precise increments when asked to turn, pleasing the photographer; however, it is unable to create a "warm" smile when asked, instead producing a very stiff expression. This is in stark contrast to Cameron Phillips and the T-888s who, although socially awkward, are capable of mimicking pleasant emotions as their missions require. The T-1001 learns to mimick affection by studying documentary footage of the Weavers being interviewed late in Catherine's pregnancy. So far, the T-1001 is shown to have the same morphing abilities as the T-1000, and has the ability to consume food.
The T-1001's mission is, thus far, wholly independent of the missions of the terminators attempting to assassinate the Connors. While John Connor has been within its reach at least once, it is too preoccupied to notice. As of yet, neither the T-1001 nor Sarah Connor appears to be aware of each other's existence. It is not yet known if the T-1001 is from a future timeline in which Sarah survived to 2008 or is, like Cameron Phillips, from a future timeline in which Sarah would have already died of cancer. As Catherine Weaver, the T-1001 either coincidentally or intentionally recruits individuals connected to the Connors to work for her at ZeiraCorp.
* When Mr. Walsh delivers the Turk chess computer to her in "Samson and Delilah", Weaver is not shown to be aware that he and Margos Sarkissian captured it from the Connors.
* In "The Tower is Tall But the Fall is Short", she hires John's psychologist, Dr. Boyd Sherman (portrayed by Dorian Harewood); first to treat Weaver's daughter Savannah (portrayed by Mackenzie Smith) for incontinence and defiance, and then (to his surprise) to analyze and assist the development of the child-like artificial intelligence system known as "Babylon". At one point, the T-1001 nearly encountered John Connor who was teaching Savannah to tie her shoelaces. Dr. Sherman names the Turk/Babylon computer "John Henry" and dies of hyperthermia when John Henry redirects the building's power from the climate control and security systems, in the episode "Strange Things Happen at the One Two Point".
* In the episode, "The Mousetrap", she recruits FBI Agent James Ellison to find and capture a Terminator in order to reverse engineer it; she and her late husband Lachlan Weaver blame a Terminator for a 2003 fatal commuter jet plane crash and she tempts Ellison with photographs of the cyborg secretly taken at the crash site, supposedly by Catherine's brother, an NTSB investigator. In the episode "Complications", Ellison delivers Cromartie's body to the T-1001 (as Weaver) after it was critically damaged by John's Terminator bodyguard Cameron Phillips, and advocates learning more about the 'robots' ironically in order to prevent Judgment Day. With Ellison's initial mission complete, she assigns him to replace Sherman as John Henry's mentor/tutor.
In the final scene of the episode, "Automatic for The People", the T-1001 is revealed to have also assumed the identity of Mr. Bradbury (Tommy Redmond Hicks), an executive of Automite Systems, who announces that his company has entered into a partnership with the owners of seven nuclear power plants to install automated systems in the plants' control rooms. Once in his automobile, he morphs into the Catherine Weaver shape before driving away. The episode contained the only example to date of a flesh-covered Terminator on the same mission as the T-1001; a T-8xx or similar Terminator assumed the guise of plant safety manager Carl Greenway to sabotage the plant and thus lead to automation.
The episode "Allison from Palmdale" shows Weaver's daughter Savannah, and implies that the T-1001 killed the real Catherine Weaver and her husband, making it look like the latter's fatal helicopter crash was the result of human error. Savannah is asked to be in a photographic shoot with her "mother", but refuses. The T-1001 annoyed, tells Savannah to sit with her. The child once again declines and runs off, leaving a puddle of urine where she was sitting. After Savannah tells psychologist Dr. Sherman that she wants her 'old mom back', the T-1001 is shown watching a video recorded before Savannah's birth, of the real Catherine Weaver and her husband, Lachlan, in order to learn to mimic her actions. It succeeds in this, gaining Savannah's affection.
Ellison turns to the T-1001 (as Weaver) when he is falsely (but reasonably) arrested and charged with a murder perpetrated by a Terminator duplicate in the episode, "Brothers of Nablus". Given the fanciful nature of what really happened, Weaver is the only person Ellison knows who will both believe his story and has the financial means to secure his bond. The T-1001 indeed resolves Ellison's situation, but not as Ellison had anticipated or is aware. Rather, it assumes the appearance of the lead detective and questions the witness again until the man reveals seeing the lighting flashes and energy bubble of the Ellison Terminator's arrival and the superhuman strength he possessed. With the witness shown to be a "crack-pot" and his testimony useless, the charges against Ellison are dropped. Although protecting Ellison is neither Cromartie's nor the T-1001's primary mission, the two are allied in doing so until Cromartie's "death", apparently unaware of each other.
To further John Henry's psychological advancement, Weaver's Babylon team connect 'his' servers to Cromartie's former endoskeleton, having repaired the T-888's head covering, as shown at the end of "Strange Things Happen at the One Two Point".
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