ECW?Originally posted by: coinz
2008..sigh wth are they gonna be showing instead
Originally posted by: yllus
Ladies and gents, it is confirmed that the four who believed in this episode that they were Cylons are indeed Cylons.
Executive producer Ron Moore discusses thrilling 'Galactica' cliffhanger
Also, regarding Katee Sackhoff ("Starbuck") returning next season:Rob: Why did music cause these newly-revealed Cylons to discover they were indeed Cylons. Sharon didn't hear music when she figured it out in season one.
Ron Moore: It's more that they arrived at a certain point in space and they were made aware of who they are. The music manifests a dawning awareness. These are four of the final five, which puts them in a separate category from everybody else. There are reasons for that I can't really get into. We'll be playing out those plot lines for quite a while.
R: When did you decide to make these four characters Cylons and how much did you have to go back and check to make sure that fit with things we already knew about these four characters?
RM: It was something I came up with this season as I worked toward the finale. The conceptual framework in which these guys are Cylons, it all sort of works once we laid down their individual back stories.
R: Are these four all full Cylons?
RM: Yes, but they are different fundamentally.
R:Is Katee Sackhoff, who plays Starbuck, signed for next season?
RM: Yes.
Haha. He's actually been very open about it in the weekly podcast he does. He also completely wiped out a New Caprica storyline that was going to figure heavily into Baltar's trial, gave Rosalyn cancer again on a spur of the moment decision, and decided at the last moment to keep Baltar's lawyer around for an extra two episodes instead of having Lee represent him.Originally posted by: Vic
(to bolded) No, really?? :Q I don't see how anyone could have gotten the idea that Moore has been half-assing it along all this season...
:roll: Nice of him to finally admit it.
Originally posted by: yllus
Ladies and gents, it is confirmed that the four who believed in this episode that they were Cylons are indeed Cylons.
Executive producer Ron Moore discusses thrilling 'Galactica' cliffhanger
Also, regarding Katee Sackhoff ("Starbuck") returning next season:Rob: Why did music cause these newly-revealed Cylons to discover they were indeed Cylons. Sharon didn't hear music when she figured it out in season one.
Ron Moore: It's more that they arrived at a certain point in space and they were made aware of who they are. The music manifests a dawning awareness. These are four of the final five, which puts them in a separate category from everybody else. There are reasons for that I can't really get into. We'll be playing out those plot lines for quite a while.
R: When did you decide to make these four characters Cylons and how much did you have to go back and check to make sure that fit with things we already knew about these four characters?
RM: It was something I came up with this season as I worked toward the finale. The conceptual framework in which these guys are Cylons, it all sort of works once we laid down their individual back stories.
R: Are these four all full Cylons?
RM: Yes, but they are different fundamentally.
R:Is Katee Sackhoff, who plays Starbuck, signed for next season?
RM: Yes.
Originally posted by: yllus
Haha. He's actually been very open about it in the weekly podcast he does. He also completely wiped out a New Caprica storyline that was going to figure heavily into Baltar's trial, gave Rosalyn cancer again on a spur of the moment decision, and decided at the last moment to keep Baltar's lawyer around for an extra two episodes instead of having Lee represent him.Originally posted by: Vic
(to bolded) No, really?? :Q I don't see how anyone could have gotten the idea that Moore has been half-assing it along all this season...
:roll: Nice of him to finally admit it.
I agree with the latter two decisions as they're far superior to the alternatives, and I'm sure that a few of those characters were always going to get outed as Cylons - Tyrol for sure, Starbuck probably, and the rest give-or-take. I know from listening along to JMS's Babylon 5 commentaries that this is a more popular way to write a show than most care to admit.
Originally posted by: loki8481
do we know the exact time line between when the cylons were invented and the first war?
Originally posted by: yllus
I know from listening along to JMS's Babylon 5 commentaries that this is a more popular way to write a show than most care to admit.
Freaking morons, it's more or less in direct violation of the series canon/pretenses and they're just writing random crud to see if it sticks. I know what I'm not watching in 2008.Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: yllus
Ladies and gents, it is confirmed that the four who believed in this episode that they were Cylons are indeed Cylons.
Executive producer Ron Moore discusses thrilling 'Galactica' cliffhanger
Also, regarding Katee Sackhoff ("Starbuck") returning next season:Rob: Why did music cause these newly-revealed Cylons to discover they were indeed Cylons. Sharon didn't hear music when she figured it out in season one.
Ron Moore: It's more that they arrived at a certain point in space and they were made aware of who they are. The music manifests a dawning awareness. These are four of the final five, which puts them in a separate category from everybody else. There are reasons for that I can't really get into. We'll be playing out those plot lines for quite a while.
R: When did you decide to make these four characters Cylons and how much did you have to go back and check to make sure that fit with things we already knew about these four characters?
RM: It was something I came up with this season as I worked toward the finale. The conceptual framework in which these guys are Cylons, it all sort of works once we laid down their individual back stories.
R: Are these four all full Cylons?
RM: Yes, but they are different fundamentally.
R:Is Katee Sackhoff, who plays Starbuck, signed for next season?
RM: Yes.
(to bolded) No, really?? :Q I don't see how anyone could have gotten the idea that Moore has been half-assing it along all this season...
:roll: Nice of him to finally admit it.
Originally posted by: ViRGE
RIP Battlestar Galactica(2003-2007)
Good point, none of the episodes in 2007 were any good.Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: ViRGE
RIP Battlestar Galactica(2003-2007)
2003-2006 is more like it.
Originally posted by: PClark99
someone help me out here. I am trying to wrap my brain around this and I have also missed the last couple episodes since it moved to 10pm timeslot.
Humans created the cylons, how long ago in the past from the shows current events was this supposed to have occurred? A couple generations or something like a milennia?
Also it would seem these developments make Callie and the Chief's son a hybrid also.
Why wouldn't the doctors have noticed it?
Alot of plot holes to fill in I think...brain hurting....
Originally posted by: flashbacck
Originally posted by: PClark99
someone help me out here. I am trying to wrap my brain around this and I have also missed the last couple episodes since it moved to 10pm timeslot.
Humans created the cylons, how long ago in the past from the shows current events was this supposed to have occurred? A couple generations or something like a milennia?
Also it would seem these developments make Callie and the Chief's son a hybrid also.
Why wouldn't the doctors have noticed it?
Alot of plot holes to fill in I think...brain hurting....
Yeah, this is an annoying part about the whole concept of human cylons. It's implied, although never explained, that the human-like cylons are virtually identical to people. In Season 1, the president asks Baltar to find out a way to screen people to tell if they are cylons or not. That suggests that it's not as easy as poking them to see if they're full of wires. But there's also a scene where Boomer sticks wires in her arm to network with a computer, so... wtf?
Originally posted by: loki8481
I think it's already been established that the "final five" are fundamentally different from the other cylons, so the same rules probably don't apply to them.
Well, the standard for having an intricate plot put together years in advance has been set by Babylon 5, which being a poorer show in acting, effects and even plotline definitely held its own in continuity. I think we've come to expect more from BSG. That said, I was on the whole quite happy with this season and the finale.Originally posted by: Paddington
The cast and crew work on this show like anything else as a job. They come up with new stuff each week. It's not like 4 years ago they had this all elaborately plotted out, and are now executing stories that were written in stone at that time. So yes, it can seem BS that they decide to make 4 of the humans Cylons. But as long as they sell it well, it can work. I think there's definitely some holes, but that's what makes it interesting.
Of course it can be taken too far, like the TV show Lost, where they come up with new convoluted stuff each week just to jerk people around.
It's been ages, though I suppose I could go through the DVDs to find it. The basic idea was that with minor and major characters always in a state of uncertainly (ie. Claudia Christian), breaking continuity and writing as you go is sometimes required.Originally posted by: mrkun
In which episode commentary does JMS discuss that?
