Tom's Hardware in AMD's Pocket

[Zim]

If anyone ever doubted that THG is in AMD's pocket, have a look at their cpu chart:

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html

It defaults to about the only test that AMD comes out top. I've always felt that THG have an often ridiculous bias towards AMD and come to the craziest conclusions from their own published tests. It's not uncommon for them to have an AMD/Intel match-off, for the Intel chip to whip the AMD chip, and they then maintain the chips are evenly matched. Thank heavens for Anandtech!

 

[j00fek]

:roll:

 

[Kur]

THG was in Intel's pocket for years. Maybe THG got a new sponsor.

 

[bigsnyder]

Yeah, I always thought of them being in bed with Intel when it comes to comparisons, despite the 1.13Ghz debacle.

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: Zim
If anyone ever doubted that THG is in AMD's pocket, have a look at their cpu chart:

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html

It defaults to about the only test that AMD comes out top. I've always felt that THG have an often ridiculous bias towards AMD and come to the craziest conclusions from their own published tests. It's not uncommon for them to have an AMD/Intel match-off, for the Intel chip to whip the AMD chip, and they then maintain the chips are evenly matched. Thank heavens for Anandtech!

You read into things too much.

As an writer you generally give the "good news" first in any article reguardless of the topic.

 

[CCityInstaller]

Originally posted by: Kur
THG was in Intel's pocket for years. Maybe THG got a new sponsor.

Wow I can remember when everyone used to complain how biased THG was toward Intel back in the old days.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Kur
THG was in Intel's pocket for years. Maybe THG got a new sponsor.

Sounds like it to me.

I remember the test where they had the pentium 4 EE against an Athlon FX in long term live stability testing.

You could clearly see where the processor throttled *AND* crashed, then put up impossible numbers to catch up.

 

[Binky]

The moon landing was staged! I was the second gunman on the grassy knoll!

:thumbsup::shocked::thumbsup:

 

[Zim]

Originally posted by: Pale RiderYou read into things too much.

As an writer you generally give the "good news" first in any article reguardless of the topic.

That isn't an article about AMD... or Intel. It's a chart of relative performances of common CPUs. I find it strange that they choose about the only test where an AMD chip comes out top to display by default. It's not even as if it's the first test in the list.

I have never thought THG was biased towards Intel, at least not in recent years. AMD have been courting them and allowing them into their research labs etc., and no doubt giving them lots of nice goodies and treatment. Their bias is most obvious in their "AMD/Intel Shoot-Outs" where their conclusions often completely contradict their own test results.

 

[Regs]

Ive been here for way too long.

 

[Pugnate]

Originally posted by: Binky
The moon landing was staged! I was the second gunman on the grassy knoll!

:thumbsup::shocked::thumbsup:

Don't forget about the outer space aliens the actual ones behind 9/11.

 

[nyker96]

How do you guys know THG is sponsored by AMD or Intel for that matter? I am interested to know because they're pretty much one of few sites I rely on for benchs. However I don't normally just read their conclusion but actually read real numbers through. In any case we do need to know if they are biased or not, such a thing can mislead many many people's purchase decision.

 

[Kur]

Originally posted by: nyker96
How do you guys know THG is sponsored by AMD or Intel for that matter? I am interested to know because they're pretty much one of few sites I rely on for benchs. However I don't normally just read their conclusion but actually read real numbers through. In any case we do need to know if they are biased or not, such a thing can mislead many many people's purchase decision.

I don't know of any specifics but I remember when they did the test between an AMD and Intel computer and the Intel one kept crashing so they re-did the test. Intel kept crashing and they simply made up numbers like someone else said in there about the test.

To answer your question, we don't. Looking at benchmarks and seeing huge gains where there shouldn't be makes it look fishy, which is what THG was doing for Intel for years.

Edit: If I remember right didn't the FX-74 beat the Intel quad core in a few tests? Even though the power consumption went through the roof I do remember the FX-74 beating one of the Quad cores. It wasn't by very much though.

 

[Zolty]

It is weird that it picks it should be the top test.

 

[yh125d]

The AMD's won in the ipod bench, and i think 3 of the 6 or so Sandra benches, Intel won the rest

 

[BladeVenom]

You could just as easily argue that Anandtech is biased towards Intel. When was the last time Anandtech reviewed an AMD motherboard? I took a quick look, and it looks like the last 19 motherboard reviews have all been for Intel.

 

[Kur]

Originally posted by: BladeVenom
You could just as easily argue that Anandtech is biased towards Intel. When was the last time Anandtech reviewed an AMD motherboard? I took a quick look, and it looks like the last 19 motherboard reviews have all been for Intel.

There's a difference in not reviewing things and boosting numbers of a certain product.

 

[Aluvus]

Interestingly, of the two processors that the page highlights by default, the Intel product actually wins by 7 seconds. The FX-74 only edges it out by 1 second.

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: Zim

Originally posted by: Pale RiderYou read into things too much.

As an writer you generally give the "good news" first in any article reguardless of the topic.

That isn't an article about AMD... or Intel. It's a chart of relative performances of common CPUs. I find it strange that they choose about the only test where an AMD chip comes out top to display by default. It's not even as if it's the first test in the list.

I have never thought THG was biased towards Intel, at least not in recent years. AMD have been courting them and allowing them into their research labs etc., and no doubt giving them lots of nice goodies and treatment. Their bias is most obvious in their "AMD/Intel Shoot-Outs" where their conclusions often completely contradict their own test results.

THG has been biased towards Intel since just after the 1.16 GHz Coppermine recall Tom initiated...immediately following that, THG completely changed their tone.
In fact Omar (the current manageing editor of THG) has even admitted so publicly...he doesn't like AMD.

 

[nyker96]

I;m a little confused some of the people here are saying THG is on Intel side, and some are saying THG favors AMD. So what's really going on? Can you guys at least give a few links to prove your point? I mean just a few facts like certain benchmarks that is definitely abnormal comparing to other reputable reviews of same product?

 

[n7]

LOL! :laugh:

THG is known for being Intel-biased, not AMD biased.

OP = n00b who obviously doesn't remember the the sh!t they pullled back a few years ago.

THG = reliably a source of unreliable info.

 

[Zim]

Originally posted by: n7OP = n00b

This "n00b" has been an AT member longer than you.

 

[DrMrLordX]

The OP obviously does not recall the THG article in which they pimp an overclocked 805 with watercooling as a good budget overclock.

urk.

 

[Zim]

Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
The OP obviously does not recall the THG article in which they pimp an overclocked 805 with watercooling as a good budget overclock.

You mean this article? I think it was an interesting article that wasn't too far fetched. They only used water cooling at 4GHz.

 

[DrMrLordX]

I thought it was a poor choice of cpu + cooling when you could have gotten a K8 + good air for the same price and same (or better) performance with less heat and power consumption (at the time).

That article spawned a lot of 805 overclocks out there complete with frustrated 805 owners.