Tom's hardware bios towards intel

Intelia

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I agree toms is bios towards intel .
But for people at this forum to talk about bios at other sites is a Joke.
Anands last review of Intels 955 chipset was good but it was bios . Corsair 5400Ul was shipped with this board and not put at the best performance speeds . It was clearly marked on the package 3-2-2-8 not 4 -3-3-8 (check this maybe wrong) but it was not run at 3-2-2-8 why.
Also this memory was been out for 45 days yet anand hasn't benched it yet we all know why (OCZ)
All sites pretty much say anandtech is bios towards AMD and I have to agree they are.
So befor you start stating that THG is bios anand should clean there act up first .
These reviews for $$$$ are getting sick.
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: Intelia
I agree toms is bios towards intel .
But for people at this forum to talk about bios at other sites is a Joke.
Anands last review of Intels 955 chipset was good but it was bios . Corsair 5400Ul was shipped with this board and not put at the best performance speeds . It was clearly marked on the package 3-2-2-8 not 4 -3-3-8 (check this maybe wrong) but it was not run at 3-2-2-8 why.
Also this memory was been out for 45 days yet anand hasn't benched it yet we all know why (OCZ)
All sites pretty much say anandtech is bios towards AMD and I have to agree they are.
So befor you start stating that THG is bios anand should clean there act up first .
These reviews for $$$$ are getting sick.


It is hard to take you and this thread serious.....:Q
 

HDTVMan

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Why are there so much postings in here lately for THG? Does THG need hits? If so the guy shouldnt have sold out and lost his base of loyal readers. THG's problem is he treated people as if they were stupid. Just like apple did with their benchmarks, but instead it backfired and now THG and Apple look like idiots and every article because scrutinized for how stupid they think people are. I would sooner trust Mad Magazine articles as news over THG and Apple.
 

HDTVMan

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God I cant belive I just wrote that. That one sentence alone makes me look illiterate. Sure hope the wife brings home some coffee and mountain dew. Whatever you do dont mix gummy bears and coffee.
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I want to clarify something for both you and THG since they clearly dont have the know-how to figure this out. There is a specific reason why that Micron RAM wouldnt run at its rated specified speed.

There is a bug with the i955X chipset. The chipset physically will not boot with anything if you use Cas 3. Cas 4 is the lowest it will accept. Most people use Cas 5.

This isnt an issue on either the i925XE, i945P or nforce4 Intel. This is specifically an i955X glitch.

 

n7

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Seriously, what is with the blatant Intel fanboism lately? :confused:

Generally speaking, the members of these forums are overwhelmingly in preference of using AMD CPUs over Intels, but it's not usually because of brand preference; it's because of price/performance preference aka common sense.

It seems that ever since the dreadful Pentium Ds were released, all the Intel fanbois freaked out, likely since they finally realized how terrible their beloved CPU maker's offering were.
 

RadiclDreamer

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THG = Intel BIASED
ANAND = AMD BIASED

Sorry, facts are facts. They have intel fanboys and anand has the AMD fanboys
 
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Originally posted by: n7
Seriously, what is with the blatant Intel fanboism lately? :confused:

Generally speaking, the members of these forums are overwhelmingly in preference of using AMD CPUs over Intels, but it's not usually because of brand preference; it's because of price/performance preference aka common sense.

It seems that ever since the dreadful Pentium Ds were released, all the Intel fanbois freaked out, likely since they finally realized how terrible their beloved CPU maker's offering were.

I have notice amd and intel fanboys crapping this forum.
 

Intelia

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No one is crapping the forum . all people have differant opions and that is a great thing. Whats bad is when people start name calling. Really know need for it . Intel fan people are getting excited because the new processors coming out in 06 and with good reason . Intel is leaving a very complacated arch. in the p4 to a much simpler arch. that is going to be cheaper, faster and with the new dual cores coming out at basicly the same price as the old single core models. We have a right to be happy Intel for the very first time are going to be all of the following.
1) Best Arch.
2) Fastest
3) lower power req.
4) quiter
5) Best bang for the $$$$
Ya were making noise right now but its going to get a lot louder. In 6 months real noisey . Fact is well make so much noise . AMD fan boys well go made with depression. and we are all going to shove it down your throats.Amd has 6 months left as king of the desk tops and than that well be gone and they well never regain the lead again. than when intel releases the server platform that well be the end of it .
By the time Amd has a counter strike Apple well have a O/S for Itanic and that is the end of the game till they can make cell work.
 

TraumaRN

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Not trying to be a jerk....but what are you referring to that will be released in 6 months that will be such a killer of AMD?? I mean dont count your chickens before they hatch....it'd be better to just wait for the benchmarks and decide instead of attempting to piss people off :)
 

Intelia

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Originally posted by: Sentential
I want to clarify something for both you and THG since they clearly dont have the know-how to figure this out. There is a specific reason why that Micron RAM wouldnt run at its rated specified speed.

There is a bug with the i955X chipset. The chipset physically will not boot with anything if you use Cas 3. Cas 4 is the lowest it will accept. Most people use Cas 5.

This isnt an issue on either the i925XE, i945P or nforce4 Intel. This is specifically an i955X glitch.

I was referring to the Anandtech Asus P5WD2 other sites are not having anyproblems getting the Corsair memory to run at there stated speed of 667 @3-2-2-8 on this 955 board none at all . So where is this bug at only at Anandtech. This M/B also showed that the nividia cheapset is good but not good enough. lol
 

Markfw

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Intel is a quiter ? some banboy you are !!! I guess we are going to see something in six months, Intel quitting !
 

Intelia

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Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Not trying to be a jerk....but what are you referring to that will be released in 6 months that will be such a killer of AMD?? I mean dont count your chickens before they hatch....it'd be better to just wait for the benchmarks and decide instead of attempting to piss people off :)
Ya your right I don't think yonah well do it but I am not real sure we well every see yonah . I think Merom well come much sooner than is expected . But it is the Merom type of Cpu I am pointing towards and I am not trying to make anyone angry just my opion.
At any rate 06 it well happen and I think its really going to be a blow out. I don't now if its fact or fiction but there are yonah out there running now and there reported to be 30% faster than Dothan at the same clock and sse3 and fusion and from what i understand 1 big surprize. Well see soon enough. I personnally never buy the first generation of anything this could be an exception (Merom not yonah)

 

Intelia

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
Intel is a quiter ? some banboy you are !!! I guess we are going to see something in six months, Intel quitting !
LOL got me again I am such a bad speller I ment quieter lol . At math and science I do well. Spelling and grammmer really bad lol


 

Xed

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in 37 years cyrix is going to come back and destroy intel/amd :confused:

From what I've seen the majority of people here aren't biased but buy whatever has the better price/performance in their minds. right now that's amd and I'm sure if next year intel owns amd most will be buying intel. Fanboy rantings about some magical product which nobody here has performance numbers for is kinda pointless..
 

SolMiester

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Originally posted by: Intelia
No one is crapping the forum . all people have differant opions and that is a great thing. Whats bad is when people start name calling. Really know need for it . Intel fan people are getting excited because the new processors coming out in 06 and with good reason . Intel is leaving a very complacated arch. in the p4 to a much simpler arch. that is going to be cheaper, faster and with the new dual cores coming out at basicly the same price as the old single core models. We have a right to be happy Intel for the very first time are going to be all of the following.
1) Best Arch.
2) Fastest
3) lower power req.
4) quiter
5) Best bang for the $$$$
Ya were making noise right now but its going to get a lot louder. In 6 months real noisey . Fact is well make so much noise . AMD fan boys well go made with depression. and we are all going to shove it down your throats.Amd has 6 months left as king of the desk tops and than that well be gone and they well never regain the lead again. than when intel releases the server platform that well be the end of it .
By the time Amd has a counter strike Apple well have a O/S for Itanic and that is the end of the game till they can make cell work.


Dude, thats the pipedream which is the AMD reality of now...If Intel really come up with all of that, it would be about time. P4 has been 'pants' ever since it came out.
 

HDTVMan

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Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
THG = Intel BIASED
ANAND = AMD BIASED

Sorry, facts are facts. They have intel fanboys and anand has the AMD fanboys


Not true prior to AMD opteron the forums here at anand supported Intel over AMD. If anything I commend Anand for sticking to not selling out. Personally I dont think anyone should take sides for either. Be happy there is competition because it causes prices to remain low.

Intel fanboys should embrace AMD right now as being ahead of Intel right now is causing Intel to leverage its foundries with a price war. That 2.4C intel cpu a lot of us have would have cost a ton if it werent for AMD. AMD fans should be happy Intel price competes as that causes AMD cpu's to be cheaper. Its a Win Win for whatever CPU you want to use.

Now if only there were some comeptition to Nvidia and ATI. Those bastards video cards never come down in price. They just release one up each other in performance and price. Come on Matrox or XGI give us a mid level card to drop some of those prices. Matrox still in buisness?

And how about creative labs. Cant you bums come out with a cheapy audigy for mobo manufacturers?

The problem with THG is that he is a sellout. He got paid to be biased. It cost him his reputation.
 

Intelia

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Originally posted by: SolMiester
Originally posted by: Intelia
No one is crapping the forum . all people have differant opions and that is a great thing. Whats bad is when people start name calling. Really know need for it . Intel fan people are getting excited because the new processors coming out in 06 and with good reason . Intel is leaving a very complacated arch. in the p4 to a much simpler arch. that is going to be cheaper, faster and with the new dual cores coming out at basicly the same price as the old single core models. We have a right to be happy Intel for the very first time are going to be all of the following.
1) Best Arch.
2) Fastest
3) lower power req.
4) quiter
5) Best bang for the $$$$
Ya were making noise right now but its going to get a lot louder. In 6 months real noisey . Fact is well make so much noise . AMD fan boys well go made with depression. and we are all going to shove it down your throats.Amd has 6 months left as king of the desk tops and than that well be gone and they well never regain the lead again. than when intel releases the server platform that well be the end of it .
By the time Amd has a counter strike Apple well have a O/S for Itanic and that is the end of the game till they can make cell work.


Dude, thats the pipedream which is the AMD reality of now...If Intel really come up with all of that, it would be about time. P4 has been 'pants' ever since it came out.

Actually thats not true the P4C 3.0 P4C 3.2 P4C 3.4 very good Cpu's
My 2 1/2 year old 3.2 benchies way better than anthing from Intel after that. If I O/C to 3.59 at 1:1 @ 2-2-2-5 pat enable FSB 224 I can stay right with the FX 55 can't beat it but I am real close and thats with a $220 Cpu To me thats bang for the buck. Before you say anthing most here know I telling the truth.
At stock speeds for an intel cpu iam no 1 have been for a year . There are not a lot of other people posting there scores at this speed at the orb y should they if you aren't no 1 than y post. and its pretty unlikely that anyone well beet this score the nearest anyone got to me was i believe 500 points differance . pretty hard to overcome that.
 

AnandThenMan

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If THG is not biased, then they are downright retarded. Look at what they wrote just recently.

What are the reasons for the AMD dual core CPU being apparently unable to ideally distribute the four applications on the two cores, even though the load on the single cores is at maximum? Is this an issue of the integrated memory controller and its memory allocation/controller logic? Or perhaps the integrated memory controller of the X2 produces more overhead, resulting in lower performance?

What the hell....
 

Markfw

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Originally posted by: Intelia
Originally posted by: SolMiester
Originally posted by: Intelia
No one is crapping the forum . all people have differant opions and that is a great thing. Whats bad is when people start name calling. Really know need for it . Intel fan people are getting excited because the new processors coming out in 06 and with good reason . Intel is leaving a very complacated arch. in the p4 to a much simpler arch. that is going to be cheaper, faster and with the new dual cores coming out at basicly the same price as the old single core models. We have a right to be happy Intel for the very first time are going to be all of the following.
1) Best Arch.
2) Fastest
3) lower power req.
4) quiter
5) Best bang for the $$$$
Ya were making noise right now but its going to get a lot louder. In 6 months real noisey . Fact is well make so much noise . AMD fan boys well go made with depression. and we are all going to shove it down your throats.Amd has 6 months left as king of the desk tops and than that well be gone and they well never regain the lead again. than when intel releases the server platform that well be the end of it .
By the time Amd has a counter strike Apple well have a O/S for Itanic and that is the end of the game till they can make cell work.


Dude, thats the pipedream which is the AMD reality of now...If Intel really come up with all of that, it would be about time. P4 has been 'pants' ever since it came out.

Actually thats not true the P4C 3.0 P4C 3.2 P4C 3.4 very good Cpu's
My 2 1/2 year old 3.2 benchies way better than anthing from Intel after that. If I O/C to 3.59 at 1:1 @ 2-2-2-5 pat enable FSB 224 I can stay right with the FX 55 can't beat it but I am real close and thats with a $220 Cpu To me thats bang for the buck. Before you say anthing most here know I telling the truth.
At stock speeds for an intel cpu iam no 1 have been for a year . There are not a lot of other people posting there scores at this speed at the orb y should they if you aren't no 1 than y post. and its pretty unlikely that anyone well beet this score the nearest anyone got to me was i believe 500 points differance . pretty hard to overcome that.

And MANY people here have OC'ed a $150 AMD 3000+ to over FX-55 speeds, WAY over for some, so don't give me that crap.