[Tom's] BF 3: 30+ Graphics Cards, Benchmarked

[Skurge]

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graphics-performance,3063.html

Just thought I'd post this. Confirms that AMD cards take a huge hit with a specific form for MSAA.

 

[lavaheadache]

I think the nVidia DX 10 card issue is of more important news.

Anyhow, nice roundup they have there. Can't wait to play it. However, it may be a while since I tend to wait for games to get under $20 before I buy them.

 

[Madcatatlas]

In what we can call a truly neutral game and game engine, the 6990 shows it is the fastest card out there.

too bad about no 460 sli

 

[Skurge]

I think the nVidia DX 10 card issue is of more important news.

Anyhow, nice roundup they have there. Can't wait to play it. However, it may be a while since I tend to wait for games to get under $20 before I buy them.

Is that how you can afford all those upgrades?

 

[Genx87]

Is that how you can afford all those upgrades?

It assures that his current hardware can blaze through 4 year old games

 

[Genx87]

I havent read the entire article but will say using the auto-detect for both a 470 and 4850 has yielded a good looking well performing game. I was actually shocked to see how good it looked on my E8400 + 4850 and it was silky smooth as a bonus. Saved me some money as I was debating buying something like s 460 or 560 or a 5870 we have a work for my GFs son to use.

 

[badb0y]

Heavenly blessed beauty...

 

[Zargon]

nice find!

 

[SlowSpyder]

Heavenly blessed beauty...

That's a lot of GFLOP's.

 

[lavaheadache]

Is that how you can afford all those upgrades?

That... and I sell vital organs on Black Market. =)

 

[lavaheadache]

It assures that his current hardware can blaze through 4 year old games

lol, true. Sure beats coming on here and bitching about how poorly optimized new games are.

 

[nanaki333]

That... and I sell vital organs on Black Market. =)

you must be on your 8th kidney by now!

 

[happy medium]

The gtx570 is the star of that review, no wonder prices are going up. Its beating a 6970 by 11% @ 1080p ultra quality, NO MSAA.

 

[lavaheadache]

you must be on your 8th kidney by now!

That 8800 gtx I got from you way back when.... That card was my left lung =)

 

[Jhatfie]

The gtx570 is the star of that review, no wonder prices are going up. Its beating a 6970 by 11% @ 1080p ultra quality, NO MSAA.

I am pretty sure they must have been running full 4xMSAA to get that bad of results at 1080p and Ultra settings. I just FRAPS the Going Hunting level (all the way to the bombing part, which was seeing 90+ fps anyway) at 1920x1200 all settings set to Ultra, HBAO, AD Off, AP High, 16xAF, Blur ON with my OC'd and unlocked 6950 and blew away the listed 6970 results.

Min, Max, Avg
36, 130, 73.326

 

[Skurge]

I am pretty sure they must have been running full 4xMSAA to get that bad of results at 1080p and Ultra settings. I just FRAPS the Going Hunting level (all the way to the bombing part, which was seeing 90+ fps anyway) at 1920x1200 all settings set to Ultra, HBAO, AD Off, AP High, 16xAF, Blur ON with my OC'd and unlocked 6950 and blew away the listed 6970 results.

Min, Max, Avg
36, 130, 73.326

MSAA is automatically applied when you use ultra. It says so right in the review.

 

[deadseasquirrel]

I'm surprised with the Crossfire problems that they had during the testing. I'm running 2x 6950s and have had no issues at all. Then again, I'm not constantly changing video settings and so forth like they do. Just loaded it up, set all to Ultra, yelled ooh-rah and started spitting lead.

 

[Attic]

The gtx570 is the star of that review, no wonder prices are going up. Its beating a 6970 by 11% @ 1080p ultra quality, NO MSAA.

snip.

Surprise!, you are misrepresenting information again.


From the article regarding AMD vs nVidia at Ultra Quality settings.

What the heck?” you’re probably asking, referencing back to the Nvidia results. AMD managed to beat more expensive GeForce cards at High quality, but now falls behind at Ultra quality. Remember that the Radeon boards take a lot of abuse with MSAA enabled, and the Ultra preset applies this feature automatically. As a result, I’d go so far as to say Ultra quality at enthusiast-oriented resolutions is out of the question for almost all single-GPU setups.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Surprise!, you are misrepresenting information again.


From the article regarding AMD vs nVidia at Ultra Quality settings.

You could still have "Ultra quality" without MSAA...

Why does everyone make it seem that turning off MSAA automatically drops the quality below Ultra? Honestly the textures and everything look better without MSAA on anyway. Maybe it's me.

 

[Grooveriding]

You could still have "Ultra quality" without MSAA...

Why does everyone make it seem that turning off MSAA automatically drops the quality below Ultra? Honestly the textures and everything look better without MSAA on anyway. Maybe it's me.

The game looks better with 4x MSAA on, but post-AA makes everything look much worse by blurring the whole image, and is better left off. You need two cards to run it on ultra with 4x MSAA though, so the point is moot.

 

[cmdrdredd]

The game looks better with 4x MSAA on, but post-AA makes everything look much worse by blurring the whole image, and is better left off. You need two cards to run it on ultra with 4x MSAA though, so the point is moot.

It looks far worse. I don't know what you think you're looking at, it's a blurry mess with MSAA ON! The Post AA (FXAA) actually helps clean up the image.

 

[SHAQ]

Nope. Post AA always blurs. Look at Crysis 2.

 

[Skurge]

You could still have "Ultra quality" without MSAA...

Why does everyone make it seem that turning off MSAA automatically drops the quality below Ultra? Honestly the textures and everything look better without MSAA on anyway. Maybe it's me.

Yes, you are right, but the review has it on.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Nope. Post AA always blurs. Look at Crysis 2.

Then explain how MSAA blurs everything out and the Post AA doesn't look so blurry?

 

[3DVagabond]

The game looks better with 4x MSAA on, but post-AA makes everything look much worse by blurring the whole image, and is better left off. You need two cards to run it on ultra with 4x MSAA though, so the point is moot.

It looks far worse. I don't know what you think you're looking at, it's a blurry mess with MSAA ON! The Post AA (FXAA) actually helps clean up the image.