[TOM'S] AMD inter-generational CPU shootout

[Essence_of_War]

In the vein of their May Intel IvyB v. C2D/C2Q article, Tom's takes a bunch of AMD CPUs starting with the Phenom II x4 965 BE, picking up the Athlon x4 640, and ending with FX-6350 and Athlon x4 750k, and benches them all against each other (including a handful of overclocks as well!).

AMD CPU Shootout from 2009 to Present

They also include some head-to-head gaming and application benches w/ chips from their Intel shootout.

That phenom II x4 performs solidly for a 4 year old chip!

 

[inf64]

Great article! I luv my 80 bucks 750K

 

[Essence_of_War]

Yeah, for $80 that's a tough chip to beat! Are you OC'ing it? Is your OC comparable to the 4.3 that they got to?

 

[Gikaseixas]

FX 6350 - one of the best balanced cpus on the market

 

[inf64]

Yeah, for $80 that's a tough chip to beat! Are you OC'ing it? Is your OC comparable to the 4.3 that they got to?

I have it at exactly the same clock as they managed to achieve .
4.3Ghz/2Ghz NB and 1600Mhz 8GB DDR3 RAM on Asrock A75pro4 board (supports CF). I needed a bit more vcore to achieve stability at 4.3Ghz (1.5V) and I use good old Vendetta2 from OCZ (AM2+ cooler!). I also use 6870 1GB gfx card (slightly OCed). It' running great .

 

[monstercameron]

965be still rocking

 

[BallaTheFeared]

lol those mins look like a disaster.

 

[Essence_of_War]

I believe the author's description of HotS performance was "slideshow"

 

[AtenRa]

Athlon II 750K/760K and FX6300 are the best performance/price CPUs.

750K @ 4.3GHz is close to Core i3 performance at half the price and FX6300 @ 4GHz is within 10-15% of 3570K at half the cost.
Recommending and Intel CPU bellow $200 is getting tougher and tougher and im sure Kaveri will put the final nail in the coffin.

 

[ElFenix]

do the gaming power consumption charts look odd? the non-overclocked 4350 adds 160 watts when gaming to its CPU load test, while the overclocked only adds 114 watts. so overclocking, when gaming, only costs you 14 watts. i don't think that can be explained by moving deeper into the supply's efficiency curve.

 

[Kallogan]

Afaic, i think those non-efficient power suckers suck badly. Hopefully, Kaveri will improve on that.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

They really need to get their performance up, you couldn't pay me to suffer such low min fps.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Athlon II 750K/760K and FX6300 are the best performance/price CPUs.

750K @ 4.3GHz is close to Core i3 performance at half the price and FX6300 @ 4GHz is within 10-15% of 3570K at half the cost.
Recommending and Intel CPU bellow $200 is getting tougher and tougher and im sure Kaveri will put the final nail in the coffin.

Overall in gaming, the 3570k is over 20% faster in minimum framerate and about 15% faster in ave framerate compared to the 6300, while in ave of all applications, it is 15% faster than the 6350, NOT the 6300 which is not listed.

Granted the 6300 is a good value for the money, but I am not sure where you got your figures.

Not to mention a 100 watt power differential at either full load cpu or gaming, which will negate part of the initial cost savings.

 

[Face2Face]

So what is Piledriver IPC looking like in comparison to Intel? Yorkfield or less? Phenom II IPC looks close to kentsfield or so..

 

[AtenRa]

Overall in gaming, the 3570k is over 20% faster in minimum framerate and about 15% faster in ave framerate compared to the 6300, while in ave of all applications, it is 15% faster than the 6350, NOT the 6300 which is not listed.

Granted the 6300 is a good value for the money, but I am not sure where you got your figures.

Not to mention a 100 watt power differential at either full load cpu or gaming, which will negate part of the initial cost savings.

I said FX6300 @ 4GHz which can be obtained even with the default Heat-Sink. At 4GHz it has the ~same performance as FX6350 and it costs half the price of Core i5 3570K.

 

[Abwx]

I said FX6300 @ 4GHz which can be obtained even with the default Heat-Sink. At 4GHz it has the ~same performance as FX6350 and it costs half the price of Core i5 3570K.

That would allow to take a way better GFX for thoses who
seems frames concerned....

 

[KingFatty]

lol those mins look like a disaster.

They really need to get their performance up, you couldn't pay me to suffer such low min fps.

Is the Intel a good alternative to avoid low min fps? I guess what I mean, is that most buyers of AMD *have* actually paid themselves by keeping the money in their pocket because the AMD chips are cheaper.

But, I guess the question raised is, how much money is it worth to increase the min FPS? And the parallel is that, how often would someone be subjected to the min fps - is it a momentary blip, or is it a stuttery mess all the time constantly?

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Is the Intel a good alternative to avoid low min fps? I guess what I mean, is that most buyers of AMD *have* actually paid themselves by keeping the money in their pocket because the AMD chips are cheaper.

But, I guess the question raised is, how much money is it worth to increase the min FPS? And the parallel is that, how often would someone be subjected to the min fps - is it a momentary blip, or is it a stuttery mess all the time constantly?

I think this video sums up my own experience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UUBE9xNz_mQ&t=708

 

[Schmide]

I think this video sums up my own experience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UUBE9xNz_mQ&t=708

What does that have to do with this article? Dude? You confuse me.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

AMD low mins -> Whats the difference worth -> A personal experience detailed

 

[Schmide]

AMD low mins -> Whats the difference worth -> A personal experience detailed

Is it really that bad or do you just like to crap on things for a living?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-4170-core-i3-3220-benchmarks,3314-7.html

 

[inf64]

If you take a look on their graphs you can see the mins are just one or two dips across the graphs . Say my 750K get one 23fps minimum dip (a fluke of some sort?) and the rest of the runtime was perfectly fine. That's why just looking at minimum fps figure alone is plain wrong and misleading. Look at the fps across the whole benchmark run on their chart and you will see the real picture of performance.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Is it really that bad or do you just like to crap on things for a living?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-4170-core-i3-3220-benchmarks,3314-7.html

Is there a reason for your personal attacks and abrasive language?

 

[Schmide]

Is there a reason for your personal attacks and abrasive language?

Yeah. It's getting a little old. Did you really need 3 posts to get your theadcrap on? I get it you like to crap on things. But seriously conspiracy not found.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Is there a reason you are this emotional over the comments of a user towards the products of a company?