Tomato: no IP found

Mac29

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I set a normal IP for the Gateway (using Tomato ver 1.28) and saved but later I can't obtain an IP for my Tomato router. I connect w/hard wire obviously. IPconfig and netstat both give me a blank IP for the gateway. In Windows 7, network & sharing center's local area connection also shows no info for the default gateway (IPv4 and IPv6). Release and renew gives the message 'Windows IP Configuration' and 'An error occured while renewing LAN. Unable to contact your DHCP server. Request timed out.'

Is there any way I can find the IP? Does this mean the router needs to be re-flashed?

Thanks in advance for any insight. Also wondering what happened to the search function; no button found using IE or FF.
 

VirtualLarry

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There are certain dev builds of Tomato that have the DHCP server functionality turned off by default.
 

Mac29

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Thanks for the replies. Perhaps I should expand: I've used the router w/Tomato for over a year. I moved and had to change settings. Couldn't get router to accept security so was trying various settings found online. Used a normal IP for the router, nothing unusual, saved, then the next day can't login. No login window comes up.

AND I can't find an IP for the gateway using methods described in original post. Everything shows GW as blank. Now what? Again, it has ver 1.28. Gets power, leds are on.

Really need to get in and get this working as school starts in a week. Appreciate the help big time.

Thanx,

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Fardringle

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If you can't log in to the router at all, reset it by holding the reset button on the back of the router for about 20-30 seconds. That will put it back to the default IP address (192.168.1.1) with root as the user name and admin as the password, and no wireless security. That should let you log in so you can configure the router properly.

What problems were you having that led you to "trying various settings found online"? And what did you actually try other than manually setting an IP address?
 
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Mac29

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Fardringle,
Thanks for the reply. I presume resetting will not change the firmware back to Linksys but only clear Tomato's settings. Don't know what happened but I last set a normal IP of 192.168.x.x. Router has leds.

Anyway, what I was changing was wireless mode. I had it working before w/WPA2, apparently in AP mode since ver 1.28 tells me WPA2 is only supported in AP mode.
I think what I want is on the Basic>LAN settings to turn off DHCP, wireless mode use AP and set an IP within the range of the main router's network. (I think you need one outside the network if using bridge mode. Wireless Client mode not sure.)

With that I should be able to use WPA2 and match the network's security settings. Just ID the name of the wireless network and enter one 'key'. I'll try a rest and post again shortly.

Thank you!
 

JackMDS

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If DHCP is off and the Network devices are Not configured with static IP then it is Normal that nothing would work.

I do not know which Wireless Router you use but WPA2 working only in AP mode is a very strange statement.

That said, if the wording of it is available in Router Mode show WPA-AES it is practically the same as WPA2.



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Mac29

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So I did a reset and was able to log in using the default, 192.168.1.1 ( and root for a name). Under Basic>LAN I unchecked DHCP Server, left it in AP mode, B/G mode is mixed, entered the SSID, broadcast is checked, channel, then changed security to WPA2 Personal. I changed encryption from TKIP to TKIP/AES (as a 1st try), entered the key and left renewal at 3600.

Since the main router is also set at 192.168.1.1 as far as I know, I changed the Tomato router's IP to 192.168.1.142 and saved. As it was resetting I did an ipconfig /release and then a minute later a renew.

My result is a popup from the systray stating limited connectivity (none) and finally an IP error in DOS in response to the renewal request. 'Unable to contact your DHCP server. Request timed out. Now I thought under Tomato's WAN section leaving DHCP alone meant you were telling it the main wireless router is using DHCP. Uncheck DHCP under LAN makes the Tomato router not offer DHCP on this side of the AP (or bridge, etc.) or am I mistaken?

The worst problem is I cannot log into Tomato AGAIN. Why won't it recognize the IP I set? I unplugged the ether to the Tomato router and tried my NIC again by enabling it but it also won't find the main router. Tried repair. Nada. 'Windows could not repair ... Renew your IP address.'

I can try different encryption choices but I have to log into Tomato first, obviously. One of my issues is not being sure what IP to set for Tomato.
Being a newbie s*cksit but nowhere to go but up. The Linksys router has to pull better than the NIC I'm using, which is dropping signal and stopping life as we know it. Got another ordered w/plays well with Linux and 7 but I like this solution much better.

I value the many seasoned responses here and hope someone can steer me into port. Thanks in advance!

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ch33zw1z

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1. You should not be changing settings via wireless, get a wired connection while making setting changes

2. You turned off DHCP on the LAN, so you're not going to get a LAN IP

3. There's a main router? So you want this to be a WAP instead of a router? Leave the WAN alone, and don't use the WAN port.
 

Mac29

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Ch33z you seem to be very confused. I'm obviously hard connected as I log in and change settings. I've read only one comment online stating I should have DHCP turned on for the Basic>LAN DHCP setting. For AP mode the overwhelming consensus is to turn it off. There's obviously a main (wireless) router, that's what I'm trying to get the Tomato router to pull from (wirelessly). I'm using it as a wireless AP which then hard connects to my devices. I haven't done anything with the WAN port.

I guess offering the exact settings I've tried ( in '1st Reset' post) is making it harder vs. taking a stab but those are pretty vanilla settings. I think the stumbling point is the IP to set for the Tomato router. Inside or outside the main router's address range. I'll try a number of IP's today and hopefully rule out some settings.

Thanx again,

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ch33zw1z

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Outside the DHCP range of the main router....

Your WAP setup won't pull a DHCP address from the main router, and setting it to an IP inside the DHCP range can cause conflicts later.

Where'd you plug the cable into the WAP?
 
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