Tom Wolfe says NY and LA writers need to get out more

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: bigdog1218

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Termagant
People in the middle of the country aren't "more American" than people on the coasts. Both groups have unique things they bring to the country. I will say this, where does the majority of business, money, banking, art, entertainment, sports, etc. come from? The coasts where the majority of people live. Maybe there simply isn't that much to write about going on in the center of the country. So why is a minority in the center "more American?"

It's a conservative tactic to reinforce their belief that their values are what Americans of the past held. That is not necessarily true and not necessarily a good thing. The tactic is basically preaching to the choir, as we can even see from some posters in this thread, who feel some sort of superiority in their American-ness.

1. Wolfe does not even use the term "real Americans" miketheidiot put that word in there himself.

2. What Wolfe DOES say is that most of the meaning of America lies in between the coasts. I think he means that in the traditional sense of what it means to be an American. Mom, baseball, apple pie and all that. People who go to church, have strong sense of community have picnics and such, things you don't see in the big city where there are so many people that sense of community is different. The small town "fly over country" is the America that won World War 2, what we have in the coastal cities is something different, our big population centers are becoming international "world" cities.

No matter what you believe, he was certainly right on the "out of touch with America" comment about New York and the left coast.

No, YOU don't see it in the big city. I've never heard anyone talk about the American dream and mention apple pie, church, picnics or any other delusional idea you have of what it means to be American. But I do see your point and your agenda, which also plagues many of those red states. Your idea of America consists of one color, where the coastal areas have moved on and realize America is made of the great people that immigrated here. You know, the people that built the US, the people that transformed this country into the super power it is today, the people who gave you all the luxuries you have, you know, Americans.

And you should know that New York provided more soldiers than any other state during WWII.

Ummm New York was also the most populated state in the country then, what does that prove?

And where did anyone mention color? Are you that paranoid?

Why don't you e-mail Tom and ask him what he meant, or wait for his book to come out.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: loki8481
sucks for all the nascar fans and drivers who weren't christian.

I think this is exactly what Mr. Wolfe was talking about. Since there's little doubt that non-Christian NASCAR fans exist in those states, perhaps the point is those people are sensible enough to not get all uppity over a few religious words being said. Maybe that's something others could learn something from.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Could this explain why the Blue states are on the coasts and the rest of the country is red?

Tom Wolfe is a hack, and the National Review and N.Y. Post are right wing rags so who gives a flying fsck at a rolling doughnut what they say?

And yes, widespread dogmatic religious elitism could very well explain why so many in the red states live in the southern hemisphere of the bell shaped IQ curve. :laugh:

Tom Wolfe = 15 books with millions of copies sold
Harvey= no books but 18674 posts to his name...

I guess this doesn't prove that Wolfe isn't a hack, but it would mean that a lot more people pay attention to him than pay attention to Harvey huh?

Looks like a personal attack to me. AKA, what's the purpose of that post?

And Harvey's post could equally be viewed as a personal attack by anyone who lives in a red state. AKA what's the purpose of his post?