Tom Perez elected chair of the Democratic party

[IGBT]

Perez will now be the Liberal cheer leader for the daily liberal "end of the world" alarmist apocalypses. Which "end of the world" alarmist action line and news bite will he promote first??

 

[Vic]

It sure looks like genius to me particularly with the actual reality that she lost held up to your supposition, one I don't share, that he would also have lost. Did you watch the video with CNN interviewing Perez, asking him about the DNC fix for Hillary and watch him dissemble. If he had lost fine, but you can't ever really know as long as the DNC has the foot on the scales. The DNC made sure Hillary won and she lost in the general. They elected Trump in my opinion. And they are going to make sure he stays in power with people like Perez.

I just don't understand why liberals couldn't see that Clinton had no message that had a chance to win.

Bernie did not win the majority of votes in the Democratic primary. He legitimately lost to Hillary. To suppose that he then would have done better than Hillary did in the general just does not follow. While actually running Bernie in the general would have alienated the majority of Democrats who voted for Hillary. Just because you yell the loudest doesn't mean you have the majority of voices.

 

[desura]

Perez is also dull as wood. I listened to an interview with the guy and he's like a typical machine pol with the same old sound bites. Meh.

 

[Jhhnn]

Perez will now be the Liberal cheer leader for the daily liberal "end of the world" alarmist apocalypses. Which "end of the world" alarmist action line and news bite will he promote first??

He probably won't be pitching anything about he invasion of the illegals, islamic terrarist threat or the horrible state of the world's greatest military.

 

[Moonbeam]

Bernie did not win the majority of votes in the Democratic primary. He legitimately lost to Hillary. To suppose that he then would have done better than Hillary did in the general just does not follow. While actually running Bernie in the general would have alienated the majority of Democrats who voted for Hillary. Just because you yell the loudest doesn't mean you have the majority of voices.

But the point I dispute is that the win was legitimate. I know that Sanders lost in the primaries, I'm not talking about the legitimacy of the vote count but how could that have happened that Hillary got more votes than Bernie. The reason, I believe, is that the party insiders wanted it that way and made sure that it happened that way by actively pushing their favorite candidate from their positions of power, and all while remaining completely blind to the fact they had no message. They had nothing but liberal brain defective arrogance that a more rational person was sure to win when nothing on Earth could be more obviously false, a lesson those fuckers will not learn. I maintain that Sanders had the message Americans would have responded to, the only message out there that can save our lost democracy, that we have to get money out politics. You don't win on you have the ticket because you're next in line and will be first woman president and all the smug, ignorant, self confidence that went with it.

As far as yelling, I hear a lot of Hillary supporters screaming their lungs out at Trump. I think they have good reason to yell. 1. Trump is insane and 2. they put him in office.

I cite two facts to support my case. A couple of folk in the DNC lost their jobs over the 'Sanders was stabbed from within' thingi, and Hillary lost.

 

[nickqt]

As if the Democrats and the authoritarian left aren't a target rich environment?

That you post this, in public, is what makes you hilarious.

 

[Double Trouble]

I think the democrats dodged a bullet. Ellison is a radical in many ways and has an extensive track record against the second amendment. Most politicians say they support both the second amendment and gun control, he's one of the few that has actually said the second amendment is the problem. That kind of talk sounds fine to the faithful, but goes nowhere with moderates. Gun control is just not a winning platform for the democrats, economy and social issues are.

Perez has his own issues and is an establishment kind of guy, but he's not going to create a big negative either. Out of the two candidates, they picked the right one.

 

[Sunburn74]

Perez is also dull as wood. I listened to an interview with the guy and he's like a typical machine pol with the same old sound bites. Meh.

That's exactly what you want in a party president. Low profile, highly functional and committed. He is NOT the face of the party. He is more the spine or the guts.

Overall I am neutral on him because I don't think the party chairman really matters at the end of the day.

 

[Jaskalas]

Perez has his own issues and is an establishment kind of guy, but he's not going to create a big negative either. Out of the two candidates, they picked the right one.

When it comes to experience and function, maybe... those are Perez's strengths.
Let's just hope it's not to continue 2016's policy... of which Moonbeam might as well have written my own post on that debacle.
This is a day that Moonbeam and I are in complete agreement.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

That you post this, in public, is what makes you hilarious.

Because no one is allowed to make fun of Democrats or authoritarian leftists. For you guys it's only a one way street.

 

[Vic]

Because no one is allowed to make fun of Democrats or authoritarian leftists. For you guys it's only a one way street.

Yeah.. Trump is waging an all-out war against the 1st amendment in order to silence his critics, but it's the left that you think is authoritarian.

 

[PokerGuy]

Yeah.. Trump is waging an all-out war against the 1st amendment in order to silence his critics, but it's the left that you think is authoritarian.

All out war on the 1st? Interesting, can you elaborate what exactly has been done as part of this all out war? Excluding certain media outlets from white house briefings? Naah, old stuff, obummer already did that. What are some of the things that are part of this all out war? I'm guessing just the usual delusional hysteria from lefties like you.

 

[Vic]

All out war on the 1st? Interesting, can you elaborate what exactly has been done as part of this all out war? Excluding certain media outlets from white house briefings? Naah, old stuff, obummer already did that. What are some of the things that are part of this all out war? I'm guessing just the usual delusional hysteria from lefties like you.

He said that the media is "the enemy of the American people."

So STFU, you apologist idiot.

 

[PokerGuy]

He said that the media is "the enemy of the American people."

So STFU, you apologist idiot.

One single comment calling the lefty media exactly what they are, that's the extent of your so-called "all out war on the 1st amendment"? Really, one comment is "all out war on the 1st amendment"? Dramatic and hysterical as usual

 

[Vic]

One single comment calling the lefty media exactly what they are, that's the extent of your so-called "all out war on the 1st amendment"? Really, one comment is "all out war on the 1st amendment"? Dramatic and hysterical as usual

Actually, he's said that in 2 separate tweets and at his speech at CPAC, so hardly one single comment.

And seriously, guy, the 1st amendment doesn't have a "it's okay to suppress free speech if you don't like what being said" clause, but you keep on apologizing. Somehow, it's all Obama's fault, right?

 

[PokerGuy]

Actually, he's said that in 2 separate tweets and at his speech at CPAC, so hardly one single comment.

And seriously, guy, the 1st amendment doesn't have a "it's okay to suppress free speech if you don't like what being said" clause, but you keep on apologizing. Somehow, it's all Obama's fault, right?

I know you and your fellow lefties have become unhinged and are having a hard time keeping from being hysterical, but even in your delusional state you should be able to distinguish between a comment from Trump and actually, you know, suppressing anything. Your notion of "all out war" on first amendment rights is really quite comical Having journalists monitored, followed and even jailed for publishing things you don't like (like during the obummer administration) was fine with you, but making a comment calling the lefty media what they are? Oh no, the horror, it's all out war on the first amendment!

Hysterical children

 

[Vic]

I know you and your fellow lefties have become unhinged and are having a hard time keeping from being hysterical, but even in your delusional state you should be able to distinguish between a comment from Trump and actually, you know, suppressing anything. Your notion of "all out war" on first amendment rights is really quite comical Having journalists monitored, followed and even jailed for publishing things you don't like (like during the obummer administration) was fine with you, but making a comment calling the lefty media what they are? Oh no, the horror, it's all out war on the first amendment!

Hysterical children

If I'm the one who's hysterical and unhinged, then why are you the one resorting to extremist rhetoric in your posts?
Anyway, your logic is as faulty as always. I condemned Obama for those actions then, just like I'm condemning Trump now. Two wrongs just don't make a right, but I'm sure you'll keep trying.

 

[Moonbeam]

I know you and your fellow lefties have become unhinged and are having a hard time keeping from being hysterical, but even in your delusional state you should be able to distinguish between a comment from Trump and actually, you know, suppressing anything. Your notion of "all out war" on first amendment rights is really quite comical Having journalists monitored, followed and even jailed for publishing things you don't like (like during the obummer administration) was fine with you, but making a comment calling the lefty media what they are? Oh no, the horror, it's all out war on the first amendment!

Hysterical children

As a hard core idiot you should know that the only thing that can threaten your delusional world is information. By carrying water for the fascists among us, you help to create the day when, with your world in ruins and yourself on the way to the camps for some stray remark of heresy, there is nowhere you can turn to warn others of disaster. You don't seem to realize that the founding fathers understood things you have apparently, in the comfort their ideas have created for you, you have never learned. You are actually quite un-American.

 

[compuwiz1]

He said that the media is "the enemy of the American people."

So STFU, you apologist idiot.

He said the "fake" media is the enemy of the American people. The lamestream media decided to destroy the context of what he said by dropping the word "fake" from print and cutting the sound byte. They're very dishonest, let me tell you.

 

[Vic]

He said the "fake" media is the enemy of the American people. The lamestream media decided to destroy the context of what he said by dropping the word "fake" from print and cutting the sound byte. They're very dishonest, let me tell you.

I saw the actual tweets, thanks, and I have to say that reputable, long-standing media institutions like CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, and NYT are simply not "fake news" under any definition of that term.

 

[Jhhnn]

I saw the actual tweets, thanks, and I have to say that reputable, long-standing media institutions like CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, and NYT are simply not "fake news" under any definition of that term.

Donald said so & now they are, over in the post-truth world of Trumplandia.

 

[Vic]

Donald said so & now they are, over in the post-truth world of Trumplandia.

Trumpers seem to prefer to get their blatant untruths from Breitbart.

There is some very interesting and well-researched information that's come out recently regarding one of Trump's biggest backers, who also happens to be the majority owner of Breitbart, and his connections to Big Data, and how they've been data mining social media in order to psychologically manipulate people for their political agenda.
You should check it out.

 

[Jhhnn]

Trumpers seem to prefer to get their blatant untruths from Breitbart.

There is some very interesting and well-researched information that's come out recently regarding one of Trump's biggest backers, who also happens to be the majority owner of Breitbart, and his connections to Big Data, and how they've been data mining social media in order to psychologically manipulate people for their political agenda.
You should check it out.

Trump tapped into every Repub base delusion propagated since Reagan. His campaign (& the Russians') was also the first to fully exploit social media & hashtag jingoism.

Gingrich offered up a prescient observation-

You have to get it in your head. The current system is broken. It is obsolete, so don't try to fix it. Try to replace it. Trumpism also means they use modern technology. Trump has 25 million people on Twitter and Facebook. His great realization, which occurred around October of 2015, you can actually reach all these people for free. He decides on Tuesday, let's do a rally in Tampa. They email, and Tweet, and Facebook, everybody in Florida that's in their list, and says, hi, I'm going to be in Tampa on Friday at 5 o'clock, and 20,000 people show up.

The other candidates are all buying TV ads. He's showing up at a mass rally, which is covered live on television. He then has 20,000 people with smartphones who take his picture. They all send it out on Facebook and Instagram. If you figure 40 people per person, a 20,000 person rally, is an 800,000 person system, about twice the size of MSNBC. For free. There's no exchange rate you can create that makes sense. It's like trying to compare Polish cavalry and the Wehrmacht in 1939. These are totally different exchange rates.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/12/30/newt-gingrich-trumpism-explained.html

There are some other nuggets in there for anybody who can get past Newt's bloviations.

 

[Zorba]

I don't get why Bernie people are so hung up on rigged elections. I followed the primaries and politics fairly closely. There are definitely questionable things hat happen, like I remember how the establishment tried very hard to subtly paint Bernie as racist, but the actual vote itself has always been fair.

I think there are far more republicans hung up on it, than Bernie people. I voted for Bernie and I disagree with how basically every super delegate announced support for Hillary day one, but Bernie lost and the few games the DNC played didn't cause it.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Because no one is allowed to make fun of Democrats or authoritarian leftists. For you guys it's only a one way street.

Don't trip over your nose when you're walking down that street.