Tom Perez elected chair of the Democratic party

[UglyCasanova]

Wow... Perez was honest for a moment then had to apologize for it. Guess his handlers got to him there.
No wonder Sanders lambasted the idea of Perez.

Doubling down on establishment candidates isn't going to win elections. Strange that's the path taken.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

I was really hoping the Democrats would pick Ellison, damn.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

So does this guy have solid principles which are more important than his partisanship?

No, he's Hillary lite.

 

[Victorian Gray]

No it didn't, but keep telling yourself that sweetie. Whatever helps you feel superior to everyone with your imaginary towering intellect.

I have no idea who you think that you're describing other than, it ain't me babe.

 

[disappoint]

I have no idea who you think that you're describing other than, it ain't me babe.

Other than...other than...? Victorian Gray must have won an "also ran" award for grammar.

 

[Moonbeam]

Lots of cursing so fair warning and no clue who this is but he lays it out there

Thank you for posting that.

 

[Brainonska511]

Brain,

Here you made a mistake, you assumed that the people reading your post are as smart as you. Could you dumb that down for the masses (or at least me). What does making perfect the enemy of good mean?

The very progressive members stamp their feet, peddle innuendo about the mainstream candidate's motives, and skip voting for the moderate candidate from the party in the general. And for the latter case, that obviously has a big chance of backfiring. Progressives play an important role in the Democratic party, but they have to remember they are not the only part and ideological purity years will be counterproductive to advancing policy.

 

[disappoint]

The very progressive members stamp their feet, peddle innuendo about the mainstream candidate's motives, and skip voting for the moderate candidate from the party in the general. And for the latter case, that obviously has a big chance of backfiring. Progressives play an important role in the Democratic party, but they have to remember they are not the only part and ideological purity years will be counterproductive to advancing policy.

I didn't understand this post either so I Googled it, and Google corrected it thusly: "Did you mean: ideological purity tears?"

 

[desura]

I don't get why Bernie people are so hung up on rigged elections. I followed the primaries and politics fairly closely. There are definitely questionable things hat happen, like I remember how the establishment tried very hard to subtly paint Bernie as racist, but the actual vote itself has always been fair.

 

[Jaskalas]

The very progressive members stamp their feet, peddle innuendo about the mainstream candidate's motives...

A new leader who cannot speak plainly about corruption in which the previous leader stepped down, and the acting leader participated...
That does not instill a sense of confidence that the root cause has been found and stamped out.
Merely that the face of the same Wall Street backed establishment has been changed to placate fears.

Though I do wonder what impact that has on policy. Is it much ado about nothing?

 

[bshole]

The very progressive members stamp their feet, peddle innuendo about the mainstream candidate's motives, and skip voting for the moderate candidate from the party in the general. And for the latter case, that obviously has a big chance of backfiring. Progressives play an important role in the Democratic party, but they have to remember they are not the only part and ideological purity years will be counterproductive to advancing policy.

Thank you for that. I learned something new! It is always exciting when that happens.

 

[boomerang]

I was really hoping the Democrats would pick Ellison, damn.

He's pretty much just a less vocal version of Ellison but without the declared love for Louis Farrakhan. The Dems have gone even further left by putting him at the helm. That's really good for the rest of us.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/02/just_how_bad_is_tom_perez.html

 

[Jaskalas]

He's pretty much just a less vocal version of Ellison but without the declared love for Louis Farrakhan. The Dems have gone even further left by putting him at the helm. That's really good for the rest of us.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/02/just_how_bad_is_tom_perez.html

Having trouble following the logic of an article proclaiming "radical Islamist" Rep. Keith Ellison.
Since when are "far left" Democrats known for their conservative leanings?

 

[Vic]

I don't get why Bernie people are so hung up on rigged elections. I followed the primaries and politics fairly closely. There are definitely questionable things hat happen, like I remember how the establishment tried very hard to subtly paint Bernie as racist, but the actual vote itself has always been fair.

Trump camp concern trolls convinced the Bernie people that Sanders had a chance. He didn't. But looking back, maybe the DNC should have rigged the nomination in Bernie's favor (because Hillary did in fact win the primaries), pissing off the majority of Democrats who voted for her, and then let Trump win in a landslide victory over Bernie in both the electoral and the popular votes. What a genius political strategy that would have been.

 

[Jhhnn]

I was really hoping the Democrats would pick Ellison, damn.

You'd have missed out on a concern trolling opportunity.

 

[desura]

Yeah, Ellison is like the worst kind of Muslim you'd want representing the Democrats. He's a Muslim convert to Nation of Islam-type Islam which most Arab Sunni Muslims (e.g. "Authentic" Muslims ) find heretical. Converts are always the worst.

 

[desura]

Trump camp concern trolls convinced the Bernie people that Sanders had a chance. He didn't. But looking back, maybe the DNC should have rigged the nomination in Bernie's favor (because Hillary did in fact win the primaries), pissing off the majority of Democrats who voted for her, and then let Trump win in a landslide victory over Bernie in both the electoral and the popular votes. What a genius political strategy that would have been.

Sanders lost because most mainstream Dems saw no need to follow him, and because while neoliberalism is cast as a villain, a lot of people grew up in the Clinton-Bush-Obama era and they are in fact neoliberals.

I don't think any amount of petty media tricks would have changed their minds. So this stuff about Clinton getting leaks of questions beforehand doesn't matter. No one seriously listens to these debates and speeches as if they are holy promises.

 

[jmagg]

It goes to her character. Sanders had great ideas regarding income inequality, but it didnt fit the establishment Democrats agenda.

 

[Moonbeam]

Trump camp concern trolls convinced the Bernie people that Sanders had a chance. He didn't. But looking back, maybe the DNC should have rigged the nomination in Bernie's favor (because Hillary did in fact win the primaries), pissing off the majority of Democrats who voted for her, and then let Trump win in a landslide victory over Bernie in both the electoral and the popular votes. What a genius political strategy that would have been.

It sure looks like genius to me particularly with the actual reality that she lost held up to your supposition, one I don't share, that he would also have lost. Did you watch the video with CNN interviewing Perez, asking him about the DNC fix for Hillary and watch him dissemble. If he had lost fine, but you can't ever really know as long as the DNC has the foot on the scales. The DNC made sure Hillary won and she lost in the general. They elected Trump in my opinion. And they are going to make sure he stays in power with people like Perez.

I just don't understand why liberals couldn't see that Clinton had no message that had a chance to win.

 

[Jaskalas]

The 2016 message was "Trump is bad". The voters didn't get to hear how Democrats are going to help them.
It is my hope that the focus can shift from Trump towards solutions Democrats are going to provide.
Challenge Republicans on policy and see the Trump labor voters follow you to victory.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

You'd have missed out on a concern trolling opportunity.

As if the Democrats and the authoritarian left aren't a target rich environment?

 

[HTFOff]

Obama was conspicuously quiet about this race. A 2 term president and face of the party. After the recent bloodbath - someone gave him a memo to STFU.

 

[Thump553]

Obama came out soundly for Perez, you just missed it.

I listened to extensive interviews with both Perez and Ellison, both seemed fine to me although I slightly favored Ellison (even though I think Bernie was a hopeless cause celebre). It's nice that Perez is bringing in as his deputy.

If the election cycle taught us anything, it is that the chairman for either the Dems or GOP is a toothless tiger. The next election cycle around the Dem establishment is going to be playing catchup with their base. Who the chair is is pretty meaningless.

All in all I'd have to agree with one talking head I saw on CNN who likened this election to the world's biggest high school student council president election.

 

[HTFOff]

Obama came out soundly for Perez, you just missed it.

Link to where obama made his endorsement. I'll be more than glad to acknowledge I was wrong.

 

[Jhhnn]

Beleaguered party? More like big league party. They almost put one of the most crooked, criminal candidates the Dems ever backed into the Whitehouse, and won the popular vote. They are not beleaguered, they narrowly lost an election they should have lost in a landslide. It's funny how fake news has so much of the public out of touch with reality.

You can relax now. Hillary will never be President. Continuing to hate on her is just a way to avoid looking at what you've actually done, elect Trump President.

I'm sure he'll do you proud. Heck- just look at all the wonderful things he's done so far & how he's bringing America together after a very divisive election.