Toilet overflowed, dripping thru ceiling, wtf do I do?

Cerpin Taxt

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So I clogged my toilet without realizing it this morning. On top of that, the reservoir flapper has a slight leak which I've known about for sometime, but haven't fixed. These two facts combined to create a rather serious overflow in my bathroom.

I had been on my ground floor dorking around on the computer for about an hour or an hour and a half, and when I came up to the main floor I could hear water dripping. Looking up, there were a few quarter-sized wet spots in my ceiling. I ran upstairs to my bathroom to see that the floor was half-covered with water that was spilling out of the toilet bowl.

A few quick jabs with the plunger cleared the clog and stopped the overflow. I mopped up the water on the floor with some garage towels. On the main floor, I drilled about a dozen holes in the ceiling, the first several of which began dripping immediately, and one which opened up like a faucet with a stream of water. A few other exploratory holes after didn't produce drips.

At the moment, the dripping has subsided to only two or 3 holes, and I have every heater in my house cranked up to max, as well as my gas fireplace, and I brought in an oil space heater from my garage to place directly under the general dripping areas.

I think this should more or less take care of things, but I'm wondering how important ventilation is. My dad seemed convinced that too much ventilation would also ventilate the heat, and that getting the heat up as high as possible was the greater asset at this point. I have only cracked a few windows on the top floor, but other than that the house is sealed up pretty tightly.

Does anybody have any suggestions?
 

iGas

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Patch the holes and hope for the best. Or, cut a few small square out of the ceiling/wall and spray the area with bleach, then patch the holes once the damage is dry.

Yeah you will need ventilation as well.
 

lxskllr

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I'd say ventilate well. Cotton wicks stuck in the holes you drilled might help, but I don't really know.
 

skyking

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Big concern here in the PNW is black mold. That is serious stuff. I was doing a new home theater wiring job and reached into a wall, only to come out with black mold on my arm. I showed the homeowner the wet wall and mold, and then went out and discovered the terrible construction practice that caused it.
My neighbor is an absolute guru of the sheetrock and texturing and matching, and he came in and tore out the moldy sheetrock and textured to match after the roof was fixed.
I suggest you get very proactive about ventilating the area and don't be afraid to cut holes if necessary. At least cut a hole big enough to put a mirror or one of these scopes up and make sure you are not growing mold.
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductId=2311-21&CategoryName=SC%3a+Plumber%27s+Top+Tool+Choices
 

mshan

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When the water heater in an apartment where I used to live broke and put almost an inch of water all over my floor, the maintenance people mopped everything up, put heavy duty fans in there, and left a note saying they had applied a product called MicroBan.

I thought I read somewhere you may be ok if it dries up before 48 hours or so (not sure of this, though).
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Well, the dripping has completely stopped now, and the wetness around the holes I drilled is already drying up pretty good. I've opened the windows on the top floor, and cracked the slider on the bottom floor, but all the windows are shut on the main floor. I also tacked a sheet over the portal to the top floor stairway to restrict air movement up the stairs. That's keeping the heat on the main floor and hopefully forcing it to vent thru the holes I drilled at least a little.

My temp reading on the main floor is about 84F right now.
 

BassBomb

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we had a toilet overflow overnight and leak down through ceiling, onto hardwood floor

had to redo the hardwood because it warped from water sitting too long, redo some drywall that got wet

our insurance company set up fans through the drywall to dry it out fast and make sure mold doesnt form...

so i'd stop the leak as the first thing to do, then clean up what whater you can and keep ventilating through the areas water got into (get some industrial fans)
 

mshan

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After everything is dry and patched up, you can use Bin Zinser shellac based primer to hide the water stains and seal everything up. Alcohol based is supposed to be biocidal, too.

Even if you had a small patch of mold develop, it is probably on other side of drywall and Holmes on Homes "This Mold House" episode said, unless you are having symptoms, just leave it alone so you don't put mold spores up in the air.

Home Depot sells Mold Control, which you could spray on the previously wet surface, though I am not sure if it will make a real difference.
 

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If you want to be 100% certain, cut out about a 2 x 4 foot section of the ceiling. Check for any other damage and be sure all is dry. Put up new drywall, tape, joint compound and repaint.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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call your homeowners insurance, pay deductible, get ceiling/floor fixed

Yeah I think I'm going to talk to them and see what they say.

I've increased the ventilation a bit, and the room below it is now up to 90F. I'm just gonna bake it for 24 hours to drive as much moisture as I can outta there.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Yeah I think I'm going to talk to them and see what they say.

I've increased the ventilation a bit, and the room below it is now up to 90F. I'm just gonna bake it for 24 hours to drive as much moisture as I can outta there.

Bad idea, as the actual damage can be fixed for less than your deductible. Also, if you file a claim, even if there is no payment, it's a still a filed claim, and you can't ever take it back.

Cut an opening in the ceiling where your holes are to increase ventilation. Turn your heat down. Increased heat makes stuff grow faster- stuff that alreay grows fast enough...

Spray regular Lysol all up in the cavity to kill everything now. After it's dry, spray some more.

Place a fan as best you can to blow into the ceiling cavity.

Repair the ceiling when dry.

Fix the toilet and use less paper.
 
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0roo0roo

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yea cut a chunk out, dont rush to patch it.
stuff is not going to dry with a few drill holes. that area is soaked.
 

Number1

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call your homeowners insurance, pay deductible, get ceiling/floor fixed

Stupid idea, this will only count against him in the event he has a real claim and could even raise his premiums at renewal time. NEVER put in a claim unless you ABSOLUTELY have to.

I think what you are doing OP is perfect. Mold will not grow if the area is dry. I would spray javex or mold control substance in there after it's dry, wait for it to dry some more, then patch up the holes, sand, paint and FIX YOUR TOILET!
 

Cerpin Taxt

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I made a couple of holes a bit larger than 50-cent pieces in the places where the dripping was the heaviest. I figure a few holes that size will be pretty easy to spackle back up. I got a fan tipped back and pointed up at the holes to try to increase air-flow, and I opened up the rest of the windows in the house since it started to get a bit more sunny outside.
 

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You need to get actual air into the holes to make sure you dry everything out. Can you rent or buy a blower with some flexible hoses that you can actually insert into the holes you cut?

I know this from experience..... several years ago I had the same thing happen to me and hired a restoration company to do some of the work. They had this weird octopus looking apparatus that blew air into the ceiling through the holes they poked into it.
 
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Cerpin Taxt

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You need to get actual air into the holes to make sure you dry everything out. Can you rent or buy a blower with some flexible hoses that you can actually insert into the holes you cut? I know this from experience....
Hmm. I wonder if I could get some flexible tubing at Home Depot that I could retrofit to the front of a hair dryer. I'm headed there now to get a replacement seal for the toilet and some spackling supplies for when it's time to patch things back up. I'll take a look around.
 

0roo0roo

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hair dryer? no good man..no good.

just get out the knife/saw and hack a nice hole in the drywall and get it done with.
 

Anubis

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Stupid idea, this will only count against him in the event he has a real claim and could even raise his premiums at renewal time. NEVER put in a claim unless you ABSOLUTELY have to.

I think what you are doing OP is perfect. Mold will not grow if the area is dry. I would spray javex or mold control substance in there after it's dry, wait for it to dry some more, then patch up the holes, sand, paint and FIX YOUR TOILET!

eh we did it when it happened to us, rates went up 0$ and they still insure us
 

Squisher

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Not all mold is black. Not all black mold is Stachybotrys (the bad stuff).

Best indoor mold killer is Concrobium. You'll find it in the paint dept at Home Depot.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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hair dryer? no good man..no good.

just get out the knife/saw and hack a nice hole in the drywall and get it done with.
Well I did it anyway. Got about 6' of flexible jacuzzi tubing, internal diameter 1.5". Duct taped it to the front of a hair dryer and made the hole just large enough to squeeze the tube in. It's hanging there piping nice warm air thru the drywall.

I got one of those hair dryers with a "cool" trigger and fastened it down so it's not HOT air, but the room temperature is about 92F now so I think it's warm enough. :)