Today in 2008, how are HD makers still get away with the number scam?

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Ika

Lifer
Mar 22, 2006
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It's easier to say "500gb hard drive" than "465gb hard drive".
 

Raduque

Lifer
Aug 22, 2004
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If you think it's bad losing 3gb off a 50gb drive... well, let's just say the new 1tb HD i just bought has 931gb formatted capacity.
 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
Forum Director
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Originally posted by: nkgreen
i think the 2" by 4" is just the pre-planed and dried size. i would guess that it's first cut 2" by 4", then dry it so it shrinks, then they plane to it to 1.5" x 3.5".

And you would be completely and utterly wrong.

 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: dbk
damn....3gb, that's like 4 full porn dvd rips

dvd rip? dude, you should be torrenting hd-dvd and brd rips!
 

heymrdj

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May 28, 2007
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Originally posted by: Raduque
If you think it's bad losing 3gb off a 50gb drive... well, let's just say the new 1tb HD i just bought has 931gb formatted capacity.

I have to say this point does put it this way. lets put it this way. We were going to be the first group in our college's computer club to have a 1TB storage array, but thx to formatting and marketing we're 50GB short. So now we need another SATA drive to get that 1TB array. Anyone got 130$, i wanna get a 750GB :D
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: heymrdj
Originally posted by: Raduque
If you think it's bad losing 3gb off a 50gb drive... well, let's just say the new 1tb HD i just bought has 931gb formatted capacity.

I have to say this point does put it this way. lets put it this way. We were going to be the first group in our college's computer club to have a 1TB storage array, but thx to formatting and marketing we're 50GB short. So now we need another SATA drive to get that 1TB array. Anyone got 130$, i wanna get a 750GB :D

??? I have 6TB of drive space... your college is just getting a 1 TB????
 

heymrdj

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May 28, 2007
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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: heymrdj
Originally posted by: Raduque
If you think it's bad losing 3gb off a 50gb drive... well, let's just say the new 1tb HD i just bought has 931gb formatted capacity.

I have to say this point does put it this way. lets put it this way. We were going to be the first group in our college's computer club to have a 1TB storage array, but thx to formatting and marketing we're 50GB short. So now we need another SATA drive to get that 1TB array. Anyone got 130$, i wanna get a 750GB :D

??? I have 6TB of drive space... your college is just getting a 1 TB????

Dude you must have missed the post about our college lol. The average income for the college students here is 8,000$ a year...we don't exactly have cheese to throw away on HD's. It's enough to live.

When i get 10 grand in pocket, i'm building a 15TB home storage/media array.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: heymrdj
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: heymrdj
Originally posted by: Raduque
If you think it's bad losing 3gb off a 50gb drive... well, let's just say the new 1tb HD i just bought has 931gb formatted capacity.

I have to say this point does put it this way. lets put it this way. We were going to be the first group in our college's computer club to have a 1TB storage array, but thx to formatting and marketing we're 50GB short. So now we need another SATA drive to get that 1TB array. Anyone got 130$, i wanna get a 750GB :D

??? I have 6TB of drive space... your college is just getting a 1 TB????

Dude you must have missed the post about our college lol. The average income for the college students here is 8,000$ a year...we don't exactly have cheese to throw away on HD's. It's enough to live.

When i get 10 grand in pocket, i'm building a 15TB home storage/media array.

yeap, guess I missed that post or misplaced any memory of it.
 

rasczak

Lifer
Jan 29, 2005
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say for instance in the case of a 500gb hard drive. you only get to use 460 of it due to this "error" you paid for a 500gb storage unit but you get 40gb less. at roughly $1/GB you've lost out on $40.00. and it gets exponentially bigger as the size of drives increases correct?

the point is you paid for a drive advertised as 500gb yet you get less than that. I know it's all got to do with math but the simple math here is that as the drives get bigger, the money lost on the drive (if current prices remain constant ie 500 gb drive = $130, then next year when 1tb = $130 you end up losing 80gb of space or roughly $80).

for the average consumer, i would think that as you go and build future machines, %80 dollars could go a long way towards a top end video card vs a mid range.

and for businesses, their loss is even greater.

but we should just accept it right? I certainly don't like it.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: rasczak
say for instance in the case of a 500gb hard drive. you only get to use 460 of it due to this "error" you paid for a 500gb storage unit but you get 40gb less. at roughly $1/GB you've lost out on $40.00. and it gets exponentially bigger as the size of drives increases correct?

the point is you paid for a drive advertised as 500gb yet you get less than that. I know it's all got to do with math but the simple math here is that as the drives get bigger, the money lost on the drive (if current prices remain constant ie 500 gb drive = $130, then next year when 1tb = $130 you end up losing 80gb of space or roughly $80).

for the average consumer, i would think that as you go and build future machines, %80 dollars could go a long way towards a top end video card vs a mid range.

and for businesses, their loss is even greater.

but we should just accept it right? I certainly don't like it.

Then why are you sitting around bitching about it instead of doing something about it? Look up E Equals MC^2 and go start your own hdd company! Then you can fix this injustice.
 

rasczak

Lifer
Jan 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: rasczak
say for instance in the case of a 500gb hard drive. you only get to use 460 of it due to this "error" you paid for a 500gb storage unit but you get 40gb less. at roughly $1/GB you've lost out on $40.00. and it gets exponentially bigger as the size of drives increases correct?

the point is you paid for a drive advertised as 500gb yet you get less than that. I know it's all got to do with math but the simple math here is that as the drives get bigger, the money lost on the drive (if current prices remain constant ie 500 gb drive = $130, then next year when 1tb = $130 you end up losing 80gb of space or roughly $80).

for the average consumer, i would think that as you go and build future machines, %80 dollars could go a long way towards a top end video card vs a mid range.

and for businesses, their loss is even greater.

but we should just accept it right? I certainly don't like it.

Then why are you sitting around bitching about it instead of doing something about it? Look up E Equals MC^2 and go start your own hdd company! Then you can fix this injustice.


Good idea!! got some money i can borrow? ;)
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: rasczak
say for instance in the case of a 500gb hard drive. you only get to use 460 of it due to this "error" you paid for a 500gb storage unit but you get 40gb less. at roughly $1/GB you've lost out on $40.00. and it gets exponentially bigger as the size of drives increases correct?

the point is you paid for a drive advertised as 500gb yet you get less than that. I know it's all got to do with math but the simple math here is that as the drives get bigger, the money lost on the drive (if current prices remain constant ie 500 gb drive = $130, then next year when 1tb = $130 you end up losing 80gb of space or roughly $80).

for the average consumer, i would think that as you go and build future machines, %80 dollars could go a long way towards a top end video card vs a mid range.

and for businesses, their loss is even greater.

but we should just accept it right? I certainly don't like it.

Then why are you sitting around bitching about it instead of doing something about it? Look up E Equals MC^2 and go start your own hdd company! Then you can fix this injustice.


Good idea!! got some money i can borrow? ;)

err, I am not into investing in guaranteed failure :)
 

Foxery

Golden Member
Jan 24, 2008
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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: heymrdj

When i get 10 grand in pocket, i'm building a 15TB home storage/media array.

Want a cookie?

"Twenty dollars can buy MANY peanuts......"


rasczak: It isn't going to change. Just be glad you know why.
 

homercles337

Diamond Member
Dec 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: pontifex
what scam? screen size was never measured by adding the borders

Yes, it was. There was often a distinction between "monitor size" and "viewable area."