To those who own guns. What's the attraction?

[spidey07]

Meh.

You can swear on our network tv and radio stations without the government sending us a fine.

/facepalm

I'm sorry I bit on it.

Now FUCK OFF AND COME AND TAKE THEM.

 

[yllus]

I don't really know why I like guns. Partially the skill/sport of it, part the technical side of it (like a good all-mechanical wristwatch, I figure).

Wish my city (Toronto) wasn't trying its damndest to ban gun ranges within city limits; I don't own a car and it's near impossible for me to get somewhere and shoot.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

/facepalm

I'm sorry I bit on it.

Now FUCK OFF AND COME AND TAKE THEM.

Come take what ya nutjob?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

1. the military is with you, in which case your plinkers are not needed
2. the military is against you, your plinkers go plink against armor while you die by the millions until you surrender.

The point of the forefathers was of course that that was the state of the art weaponary at the time, anyone could defeat an army with enough colt 45's, today, you'll need an airforce, artillery and armed forces to defeat the government run military.

Your plinkers won't do shit in but get you killed in this situation, even whitey007 knows that.

He's also a man who willingly wants to let corporations own his house, his everything via compliance and they can choose to change it at any time because he actually believes it's their right.

You should focus on companies, the state isn't the real cause of government spending, it's to cover for frivolous companies secrutities that went horrible that you pay.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Come take what ya nutjob?

I think the racist religious alcoholic nutjob Mel Gibson said it best: HIS FREEDOM!!!

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

I think the racist religious alcoholic nutjob Mel Gibson said it best: HIS FREEDOM!!!

Got my own, don't need his.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Got my own, don't need his.

Freedom doesn't really rock until you start taking it from other people.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

Freedom doesn't really rock until you start taking it from other people.

Duly noted.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Got my own, don't need his.

Whose, Mel Gibson's or spidey's? Nevermind...they're so close they might as well be the same. I'm sure spidey has his own church down there in Kentucky...probably fewer Russian whores though.

 

[Locut0s]

Whose, Mel Gibson's or spidey's? Nevermind...they're so close they might as well be the same. I'm sure spidey has his own church down there in Kentucky...probably fewer Russian whores though.

Speaking of Mel Gibson being a racist religious nut job, crazy he really is. You can just about physically see it in hist eyes! The eyes always give away the crazy.

 

[Lanyap]

"Man is a predator whose natural instinct is to kill with a weapon."

Excerpts from African Genesis (1961)
http://www.users.muohio.edu/erlichrd/vms_site/afric.htm

 

[pontifex]

I don't think your 'natural rights' are what you think they are.

Freedom of speach? Press? LOL.

Go say 'fuck' on a network tv station, see what happends.

FCC, un unelected body, will send you a nice bill.

That's not freedom of press, or speech.

freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say fuck on TV....seriously, how can you sit here and argue about stuff and you have no fucking clue what you are talking about? This is exactly what anti-gun people do. spew BS with no facts at all.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

And the guns are not designed for any of those activities. You can have more fun with non-lethal weaponry so that is no excuse whatsoever. You perpetuate evil by owning a handgun whether you want to believe it or not.

I hear your wife pulling on her purse. You know that thing that holds your balls.

Why can't simple minded people like you realize that some people like one thing while others like something else.
Why do people throw axes? Or use a bow and arrow? Or play football or hockey or rugby?
We do things because we enjoy it.
It's just the cowardly candy asses that bitch and complain about other peoples legal activities.

I personally find it fun to go blow the shit out of old computer equipment and clay pigeons.

I think you are just pissed that millions of Americans can handle a firearm safely every year, but all you can think about is using one to kill someone. People like you shouldn't have a firearm because you are not capable nor intelligent enough to handle one safely.

 

[GoofyGoofT]

I grew up in a family that did not hate guns but it was defiantly not okay to carry one.

the attraction to me was that I am a 6foot 3 155lb kid and I am an easy target because it looks like I can't defend myself and they would be right. but with a gun on my hip I don't have to be worried about that. even though I know someone can just shoot me it is unlikely.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

I hear your wife pulling on her purse. You know that thing that holds your balls.

Why can't simple minded people like you realize that some people like one thing while others like something else.
Why do people throw axes? Or use a bow and arrow? Or play football or hockey or rugby?
We do things because we enjoy it.
It's just the cowardly candy asses that bitch and complain about other peoples legal activities.

I personally find it fun to go blow the shit out of old computer equipment and clay pigeons.

I think you are just pissed that millions of Americans can handle a firearm safely every year, but all you can think about is using one to kill someone. People like you shouldn't have a firearm because you are not capable nor intelligent enough to handle one safely.

What do you expect? The guy thinks jesus is real. He's a fucking moron.

 

[BoberFett]

Scared shitless 24/7, small penis, fat as fuck and living in a war zone where guns are really needed for self protection.

Keep one on the nightstand, ready to fire by pulling the trigger, it's the only way to be safe, that is how scared i am...

I also spend most nights trembling in fear of everything...

/whitey007

Says the lying military wannabe who gets publicly shamed every time he pretends to know about firearms.

Keep dreaming, Rambo wannabe.

 

[BoberFett]

1. the military is with you, in which case your plinkers are not needed
2. the military is against you, your plinkers go plink against armor while you die by the millions until you surrender.

You are the worst fake internet soldier ever. If you're shooting at tanks with your small arms, no wonder you can't win in Afghanistan you pathetic loser. Try softer targets, reject.

 

[Angry Irishman]

We didn't need to win any independence from the British. If anyone did today what our founding fathers did then it would be considered treason and you'd be shot. Just look at Lincoln, he started a whole damn war because of it. Our founding fathers were terrorists.

The meaning of the second amendment of the Constitution of the United States remains valid to this day.

"the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed"

What's so damn confusing about that?

Apparently a lot is confusing because you only quote half of it. Taken in context it does not say every citizen should own a gun. The point was that there should be a militia available to protect the people, because back then there was no standing army. Now that standing armies are normal, militias are not. A few hundred years ago standing armies were not normal because they were not cost effective. Some might say they still aren't.[/QUOTE]




Please don't pursue a history career anytime soon. There are a lot of really good books from opposing views...I suggest reading them.

Most of the loyalists from the American Revolution moved to Canada or back to mother England...pack it up and move if you don't understand how lucky you are to be American and enjoy the life that so many don't have. You could move to Canada, watch your house being firebombed, and be arrested for defending your property.

Umm...the founding fathers were certain to be hung or shot as a result of treason against england.

The American colonies had the best standard of living in the world at the time. The British wanted to tap into this new found population to pay for her already unpopular wars across Europe and the world and the colonists wanted nothing of it. Taxes were just part of it and saying the war was fought for taxes is a gross oversimplification at best. Although the crazy taxes were reason enough you forget the stolen lands, housing British soldiers and a continual reduction of the rights already given to the remainder of the British empire. The colonists tried diplomacy and resorted to war as a last resort. Many of the original "traitors" opted for diplomacy until the very end. As far as being terrorists...based on many of the unconventional nature of American tactics you would be correct during this era. Washington chose to avoid traditional battles in open fields and drained the British of their time and resources....brilliant for his day and all accomplished with wit and "gasp" with firearms.

Stating the Lincoln started the civil war is about as naive as saying the war was fought over slavery alone. I'll just leave that one alone.

and finally, if I only quoted half of the second amendment why did I post the whole damn thing in my thread? You're missing the point. Americans have the right to oppose it's government by exercising their Constitutional rights and if needed by resistance. This is a situation that our founding fathers most certainly understood. No one is saying you have to own a gun but you sure as shit have the right as an American citizen. Is the Constitution perfect...no. Is it one of the most amazing documents every authored...yes. Is it still a valid representation of my rights as an American citizen...absolutely.

To each their own; we'll agree to disagree.

 

[Locut0s]

if you don't understand how lucky you are to be American and enjoy the life that so many don't have. You could move to Canada, watch your house being firebombed, and be arrested for defending your property.

??

 

[Angry Irishman]

??

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-...ebombing-case-shows-evil-of-anti-defense-laws

 

[Locut0s]

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-...ebombing-case-shows-evil-of-anti-defense-laws

Ahh I see. Love how the story is reported, sounds so professional. Brings a tear to my eye just thinking about it. I'm sure there are plenty of examples in the US where laws fucked people over in other situations though. Examples where the law protected the criminal and not the citizen. Plenty of posts on ATOT about that all the time come to think of it. Yeah Canada is such a hell hole to live in.

While I'm not 100% on the side of the government in this case the story also omits the point about him killing his neighbours chicken(s) because he was tired of them wandering onto his lot.

 

[Angry Irishman]

Depending on the state or city, yea, there are problems. I'm not bagging on Canada. It's all good unless someone is firebombing your house!:awe:

 

[sandorski]

Well I'd say they've grown up in a culture where guns are demonized. Gun control advocates tend to be extremely un-exposed and ignorant about guns, with no first-hand experience. This lack of experience tends to produce a fear of guns. Simply put, they fear what they don't understand.

Personally I think the countries that practice gun prohibition are in some of the best positions possible if they would take advantage of the situation. With a relatively clean slate they could enact strict, extensive licensing that would make guns and ammo only available to good citizens for the purposes of self-defense and unavailable to bad guys. But unfortunately the culture of gun-fear prevents such reasonable measures.

They got rid of their Guns for a reason. I suspect they have no desire to adopt US problems by returning Guns to the Common Man.

 

[sourceninja]

1. the military is with you, in which case your plinkers are not needed
2. the military is against you, your plinkers go plink against armor while you die by the millions until you surrender.

The point of the forefathers was of course that that was the state of the art weaponary at the time, anyone could defeat an army with enough colt 45's, today, you'll need an airforce, artillery and armed forces to defeat the government run military.

Your plinkers won't do shit in but get you killed in this situation, even whitey007 knows that.

He's also a man who willingly wants to let corporations own his house, his everything via compliance and they can choose to change it at any time because he actually believes it's their right.

You should focus on companies, the state isn't the real cause of government spending, it's to cover for frivolous companies secrutities that went horrible that you pay.

There are plenty of evidence in afghanistan and iraq that disagree with you.

But you also miss the point of armed revolt. Your hope is that just by standing up and fighting you can change the government. Your hope is that when your staring down that well equipped army with the intent to fight that they realize they don't want to kill their brothers and stand down.

But if they don't, a few well armed guys with pickup trucks could probably get some good hardware from the local reserve bases and I'm fairly sure with the wilderness and mountains in this country (combined with the fact the government is not going to carpet bomb it's own cities) it would be a bloody, horrible fight.

Win or lose doesn't matter, it's about standing up for what you believe in. All governments rise and fall, it's not a matter of if it can happen, it's when. I just hope it's not during my lifetime.

 

[dmw16]

Yeah, it's nice knowing I won't be getting shot. Ever.

I know it's too late to change things in the States, but damn, their gun ownership is some crazy shit.

How does never seeing one up to this point mean you'll never be shot by one?