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To those who oppose the War... Why?

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flavio

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Originally posted by: Crazyfool
[ The end result is we don't have to deal with a 1 million persons casualty attack in NYC or wherever because we cut these @ssholes off before they could even get started.
So you're one of these idiots who can't tell the difference between 9/11 and Iraq? Falling for the marketing campaign eh? That's pathetic.

 

Conky

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Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
[ The end result is we don't have to deal with a 1 million persons casualty attack in NYC or wherever because we cut these @ssholes off before they could even get started.
So you're one of these idiots who can't tell the difference between 9/11 and Iraq? Falling for the marketing campaign eh? That's pathetic.
So are you one of those idiots that think something like that can never happen again?

 

flavio

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Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
[ The end result is we don't have to deal with a 1 million persons casualty attack in NYC or wherever because we cut these @ssholes off before they could even get started.
So you're one of these idiots who can't tell the difference between 9/11 and Iraq? Falling for the marketing campaign eh? That's pathetic.
So are you one of those idiots that think something like that can never happen again?
So we should invade countries that weren't involved? Then everyone will like us because we "liberated" a country that doesn't want us. Nothing bad will ever happen to us after that right?

 

Conky

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Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
[ The end result is we don't have to deal with a 1 million persons casualty attack in NYC or wherever because we cut these @ssholes off before they could even get started.
So you're one of these idiots who can't tell the difference between 9/11 and Iraq? Falling for the marketing campaign eh? That's pathetic.
So are you one of those idiots that think something like that can never happen again?
So we should invade countries that weren't involved? Then everyone will like us because we "liberated" a country that doesn't want us. Nothing bad will ever happen to us after that right?
Dude, the guy sponsors suicide bombers in Israel. This is not a 9/11 payback... get that out of your head. This is trying to stop the next 9/11 type thing. He is capable and willing to do something like that.

Who cares what kind of retribution they might put on us? They already hate us. Why should we let guys like Saddam control the USA? Answer that for me.

 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: Rainsford<br Why would you rather form a very strong opinion based off of nothing more than your guess as to the motivations of those involved rather than form an opinion (even if it is a shacky one) based on facts?

You are ridiculous. Your opinions you consider as facts but everyone else just has "opinions".

Facts:

1. Iraqis for the most part would rather have their dictator then have the US control them.
This is conjecture on your part. To determine actual fact, you would have to take a scientifically accurate poll of Iraqis, and in doing so somehow insure that your answers were not tainted by the fear of reprisals from Saddam's regime. Until Saddam's influence has been removed from Iraq, this is not possible.

2. Operatio Iraqi Freedom is nothing more than a marketing campaign
Operation Iraqi Freedom is a substantial military operation involving hundreds of thousands of people and quite a bit of serious military hardware. Calling it "nothing more than a marketing campaign" is your opinion.

3. We weren't being threatened by Iraq, but everyone will hate us after this war.
The world is not black and white; the threat is there, if not in your face. Saddam in the past invaded Iran and invaded Kuwait; he launched SCUD missiles at Israel during Desert Storm in an effort to expand and escalate that conflict. He pays cash to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. The important conclusion we can draw from these facts is that Saddam is a destabilizing influence on the region. Saddam has shown a willingness to use chemical weapons on both foreign troops and on civilians within the borders of his own country, and judging by the fact that our forces are finding large quantities of Iraqi gas masks and chemical suits in the field, he appears prepared for their use in the current conflict. In today's CENTCOM briefing, Gen. Tommy Franks stated that US forces were in the process of attacking a "massive" (his word) terrorist camp within the borders of Iraq run by Ansar al-Islam, a fundamentalist Sunni Islamic terrorist group with ties to al Qaeda. While it is debatable that this group has any direct ties to Saddam's regime, it is foolish to ignore the fact that hatred of the US is a common trait, and foolish to ignore the possiblity of their working together in the future.

The regional instability Saddam poses to the entire Middle East is a threat to the economic stability of the US.

As for "everyone will hate us after this war", that is a supposition; the Arab world, for a number of reasons, already hates the West and particularly the US. For the most part, however, nations tend to act in their own self interest, and that self interest appears to increasingly consist of a healthy fear of the military capabilities of the US.

4. If and when the US does win the "war" it won't magically be all pretty for anyone involved.
Throughout the coverage of the war, military commanders have stated that once the objective of removing Saddam's regime from power has been achieved, the battle to "win the peace", that is, to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people, will begin. The only people who seem to have any illusions about this are those firmly in the anti-war camp.
 

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